RSJ Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 We will see - but I don't think Bill O'Brien wanted Brock. The GM did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Clouds Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: Prime time games these past couple of weeks have been so awful, no wonder ratings are down for prime time games. Just to add to this, we're looking at Jax and Tennessee on Thursday lol If you weren't a Jets fan, and be honest, would you rather watch Jax-Tennessee or Jets- Cleveland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Just now, RSJ said: We will see - but I don't think Bill O'Brien wanted Brock. The GM did. was just about to say that Rick Smith has been there forever and just re-upped to 2020. Paying their QB a couple more mill for a couple more years than we are. He cant be happy about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Clouds Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, RSJ said: We will see - but I don't think Bill O'Brien wanted Brock. The GM did. Wasn't the owner pushing hard for him also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Happy Clouds said: Wasn't the owner pushing hard for him also? Yeah, O'Brien didn't even meet with Brock if I remember correctly. Also after selecting Hack, Mac was asked about O'Brien not picking him and Mac said something like he respects Bill and wants to "keep it professional" I kind of read it as O'Brien would have loved to have him - but Rick Smith is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateJetsGuru Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, fusionCA said: Jets should have done what Denver before the season , get rid of the dead weight(Sanchez ,Fitz,Geno) and let the young guy play. there is no force in the world that would convince me that Siemian is better then Petty Two completely different teams...Denver has an awesome defense - they WON a Super Bowl with a QB that had 9 TD's and 17 INT's last season, and 0 TD's and 2 INT's in the big game! They also ran the ball for 190+'yard tonight. This is a great situation for a young QB. The Jets...not so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, Happy Clouds said: If you weren't a Jets fan, and be honest, would you rather watch Jax-Tennessee or Jets- Cleveland? If I wasnt a Jets fan, I probably wouldnt watch either game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said: was just about to say that Rick Smith has been there forever and just re-upped to 2020. Paying their QB a couple more mill for a couple more years than we are. He cant be happy about that. Yeah, it was a big surprise that he got a contract extension because he has had many questionable moves and its even been reported him and O'Brien dont see eye to eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Clouds Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, RSJ said: Yeah, it was a big surprise that he got a contract extension because he has had many questionable moves and its even been reported him and O'Brien dont see eye to eye. John Idzick- Rex Ryan ll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Happy Clouds said: John Idzick- Rex Ryan ll? Idk, but it would be pretty sweet if the Jets could get Bill O'Brien as their OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Clouds Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 O'Brien is not exactly building an offensive juggernaut with Houston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 8 hours ago, Happy Clouds said: If you weren't a Jets fan, and be honest, would you rather watch Jax-Tennessee or Jets- Cleveland? I know Bortles seemed to have fallen off a cliff this year, but two young potential franchise QB's could be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 11 hours ago, BroadwayJoe12 said: I know music is subjective and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but f*ck, Gruden just put Tesla and The Rolling Stones in the same category. Whatever, it's not a big deal, but it really bothered me. Had to vent somewhere. Much obliged. totally not fair to Tesla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Prime time games have been so bad this season it's not even funny. The NFL sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 22 minutes ago, JiF said: Prime time games have been so bad this season it's not even funny. The NFL sucks. Yep, big time. Prime time has been a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Fitzpatrick-12m Osweiler- 72m. I guess Maccagnan is regretting that move. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 10 hours ago, Ghost said: This Brock kid is seriously terrible. I challenge anyone to name me 3 starting QBs in this league today that you would rather have than him. Hes a bottom 3 QB getting paid a sh*t load of money. Straight robbery! Certainly helps put the $12M to Fitz in perspective. And they gave Osweiler a 4-year deal. With $37M guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 12 hours ago, BroadwayJoe12 said: I know music is subjective and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but f*ck, Gruden just put Tesla and The Rolling Stones in the same category. Whatever, it's not a big deal, but it really bothered me. Had to vent somewhere. Much obliged. Yea, the Stones are clearly more Toyota than Tesla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Certainly helps put the $12M to Fitz in perspective. And they gave Osweiler a 4-year deal. With $37M guaranteed. Fitz's contract was in perspective the moment Mac held his ground at 1 year $12m. He's getting paid like the 28th best QB in the league. Seems legit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Fitz's contract was in perspective the moment Mac held his ground at 1 year $12m. He's getting paid like the 28th best QB in the league. Seems legit to me. When you compare him to starting QBs then yes. Doesn't really matter. Got bigger problems than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, The Crusher said: When you compare him to starting QBs then yes. Doesn't really matter. Got bigger problems than that. Indeed. Like our defensive-minded HC who can't coach defense despite 1st round talent all over the field. Or our GM who probably can't find a QB (jury's still out but it's not looking great). Fitz deserves plenty of blame for this season but certainly not all of it. Let's hope by some miracle that Petty and/or Hack are the real deal or our franchise is basically f*cked, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 26 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Indeed. Like our defensive-minded HC who can't coach defense despite 1st round talent all over the field. Or our GM who probably can't find a QB (jury's still out but it's not looking great). Fitz deserves plenty of blame for this season but certainly not all of it. Let's hope by some miracle that Petty and/or Hack are the real deal or our franchise is basically f*cked, again. At least we should have more insight into our QB position come the end of the season. Petty should get a ton of work this year in live action. We will still need a 3rd QB on our roster next year so how Petty does with these weaponz will be related to where, not so much if, we draft/trade or FA a QB for that 3 of 3 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 32 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Indeed. Like our defensive-minded HC who can't coach defense despite 1st round talent all over the field. Or our GM who probably can't find a QB (jury's still out but it's not looking great). Fitz deserves plenty of blame for this season but certainly not all of it. Let's hope by some miracle that Petty and/or Hack are the real deal or our franchise is basically f*cked, again. I'm still struggling with what pisses me off more. Fitz acting like he has no idea he sucks or the management ignoring the fact that last year was clearly the exception and not the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said: At least we should have more insight into our QB position come the end of the season. Petty should get a ton of work this year in live action. We will still need a 3rd QB on our roster next year so how Petty does with these weaponz will be related to where, not so much if, we draft/trade or FA a QB for that 3 of 3 QB. The silver lining to Geno's injury is that it reduces our QB roster to three which means hopefully Petty and/or Hack are going to at least get some starter reps in practice as the backup instead of splitting the reps between two guys who won't be on the roster next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: The silver lining to Geno's injury is that it reduces our QB roster to three which means hopefully Petty and/or Hack are going to at least get some starter reps in practice as the backup instead of splitting the reps between two guys who won't be on the roster next year. There is no silver lining when any player suffers a season ending possibly career ending injury. The QB situation here is the fault of the GM and head coach no one else. Petty I presume is more injured than a bruised shoulder and Hack must be really bad as other rookies drafted after him are already playing in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: There is no silver lining when any player suffers a season ending possibly career ending injury. The QB situation here is the fault of the GM and head coach no one else. Petty I presume is more injured than a bruised shoulder and Hack must be really bad as other rookies drafted after him are already playing in the NFL. The QB "situation" is in part on the Qbs imo. If Fitz doesnt forget how to throw a football and Geno ever learned to get rid of the ball and quit taking unnecessary hits we might not be up the creek right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 minute ago, whodeawhodat said: The QB "situation" is in part on the Qbs imo. If Fitz doesnt forget how to throw a football and Geno ever learned to get rid of the ball and quit taking unnecessary hits we might not be up the creek right now. Management chose them both to be here. Our draft scouts have been terrible for years we lead the league in 1st round draft pick busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Management chose them both to be here. Our draft scouts have been terrible for years we lead the league in 1st round draft pick busts. We have new draft scouts now, our GM is a former scout. need to give them a chance to restock the cupboards with young talent. Young QB talent is the most rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: The silver lining to Geno's injury is that it reduces our QB roster to three which means hopefully Petty and/or Hack are going to at least get some starter reps in practice as the backup instead of splitting the reps between two guys who won't be on the roster next year. Agree. This will accelerate the process for both. Someone will be involved with the game plan and getting reps with the ones as the backup, the other will be getting all the scout team reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 41 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: There is no silver lining when any player suffers a season ending possibly career ending injury. If you cannot parse out the difference between sympathizing with Geno's plight as a result of the injury from how the team moves forward in light of the injury then you are either clouded by your personal feelings for Geno/against Fitz/against anybody who wasn't against Fitz or you are willfully ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: If you cannot parse out the difference between sympathizing with Geno's plight as a result of the injury from how the team moves forward in light of the injury then you are either clouded by your personal feelings for Geno/against Fitz/against anybody who wasn't against Fitz or you are willfully ignorant. Moving forward with a journeyman gypsy bum who was benched a week earlier who leads the league in INT's that isn't moving forward. Moving forward would be starting a rookie QB Mr. Negative rep man/woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Moving forward with a journeyman gypsy bum who was benched a week earlier who leads the league in INT's that isn't moving forward. Moving forward would be starting a rookie QB Mr. Negative rep man/woman. None of this is responsive to what I said but does a great job proving my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 LB Shane Ray is a beast and we passed him up in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Just now, rex-n-effect said: None of this is responsive to what I said but does a great job proving my point. Moving forward I dont care what you're opinions are my experience with you who today comes out of his/her shell is a person who sits back and negative reps others and offers little or nothing of substance to any thread. My point proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: There is no silver lining when any player suffers a season ending possibly career ending injury. "Career Ending" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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