JetNation Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 By Glenn Naughton New York Jets defensive ends Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson sat out the first quarter of last Sunday’s 27-23 loss to the Miami Dolphins for what we later learned were disciplinary issues. Richardson and Wilkerson have apparently skipping out on practices and meetings on a regular basis and after letting it slide multiple times, head coach Todd Bowles took a new approach, attempting to discipline the players. Despite his contention that he does respect Bowles, it appears the actions of Wilkerson say the exact opposite. NFL Insider Ian Rapoport is now reporting that Wilkerson’s absence isn’t a new thing, and the Jets addressed it with the lineman before coming to terms on a deal that would pay him $17 million per season. Disciplinary issues for #Jets DL Mo Wilkerson are not new. Before signing his 5-yr, $86M deal, he met with coach Todd Bowles on his behavior — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) November 13, 2016 After meeting with Bowles to discuss his lack of commitment, Rapoport says the former Temple product assured the Jets that he understood the responsibility that came with the deal, which apparently isn’t the case. In the meeting with Todd Bowles, Wilkerson promised he understood the responsibility of a deal & vowed to behave. Then last week happened — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) November 13, 2016 The Jets will have some big decisions to make this off-season as it appears the two players who may very well top the 53-man roster in terms of talent, could very well be bringing up the rear when it comes to commitment. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Really hoped it was a one-time thing that got blown out of proportion. Looks like the Jets asked him if he'd mind showing up to practice and stuff before giving him his deal and he said he would. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 If all this is true how do you give this guy a contract like that and add to that the y let snacks walk who seems to be the type of guy that deserves that money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LurkerKing Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 You'd think it would be addressed in the actual contract if they had any concerns at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, LurkerKing said: You'd think it would be addressed in the actual contract if they had any concerns at all... Yeah, you'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 This really bothers me. Why are you giving such a contract to a habitual absentee. Maybe I am simplifying it but is it really that hard to be a GM? If the guy is late to the meetings before the biggest deal of his life, how can you think he will start showing up on time, after getting paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: If all this is true how do you give this guy a contract like that and add to that the y let snacks walk who seems to be the type of guy that deserves that money Well, TBF, Snacks really hasnt been missed on this defense. McClendon has done a solid job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, AFJF said: Yeah, you'd think. Dont know if you could get it past the union Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 So Wilkerson was playing in a rookie contract and had to be talked to about his responsibilities, and the organization thought giving him more money than God would make him change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, hawk said: So Wilkerson was playing in a rookie contract and had to be talked to about his responsibilities, and the organization thought giving him more money than God would make him change? Well the alternative was giving it to a guy that endangered a child, so which is the lesser of two evils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Who talked to Mo? If it was the moron of a head coach its a no wonder theres an issue if there's any truth to all this, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 The Jets resigned a lazy, malcontent and let Snacks walk... Yup. Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 20 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Well the alternative was giving it to a guy that endangered a child, so which is the lesser of two evils Not at all. I would let both Mo and Fitz go and use Sheldon for 2 more years and would let him go as well. Mo and Sheldon aren't long term contract guys. One is lazy, the other is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, RoadFan said: The Jets resigned a lazy, malcontent and let Snacks walk... Yup. Sounds about right. Snacks isnt a great player. Good player, but not great. You could say the same for Wilkerson, but Wilkerson gets sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Fibonacci said: Not at all. I would let both Mo and Fitz go and use Sheldon for 2 more years and would let him go as well. Mo and Sheldon aren't long term contract guys. One is lazy, the other is dumb. And have fans and media screaming about not giving Revis money and all that. BTW, if Mo is lazy and plays like he has before, I would love to see him when he's motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: And have fans and media screaming about not giving Revis money and all that. BTW, if Mo is lazy and plays like he has before, I would love to see him when he's motivated. Look. With Mo, talent is there. Question is his consistency and now we are hearing about this habitual absentee issue. You want your starts be consistent. They should have a bottom line and they should never perform below that line. Mo is a star one week and he is just cruising with the motions without his best effort the next week. You don't tie big money to a guy like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I saw that. I take back all of me defenses of Mo WIlk. He sure had me fooled. I thought he was exactly the type of guy you pay, productive and good citizen and team mate. Turns out he was going out to bars after bed check. that's total bullsh*t sad face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 48 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Well the alternative was giving it to a guy that endangered a child, so which is the lesser of two evils As long as it wasn't during a game I would give it to the better football player. Truth is chikd probably having a blast street racing in a Bentley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Good job Macc. Fitz and Wilk. Strikes 1 and 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 If I recall correctly, even before the Jets drafted Mo, there were concerns about his dedication. Seeing how he performed earlier in his career, no one would have guessed that their concerns were actually true. It's shame because I really thought highly of Mo. He needs to change or else see ya later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Good job Macc. Fitz and Wilk. Strikes 1 and 2? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, The Crusher said: As long as it wasn't during a game I would give it to the better football player. Truth is chikd probably having a blast street racing in a Bentley. And then you enter the Ray Rice, Josh Brown, Greg Hardy category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Now do folks get it when Brandon Marshall subtly questioned the dedication of some of his teammates!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: And then you enter the Ray Rice, Josh Brown, Greg Hardy category What the hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: What the hell? Talent over character. Especially in this NFL. Jets would have been guilty of it. And if they had signed neither, considering what happened with Revis, they would have been accused of being cheap and not only would fans get upset but then other free agents would avoid coming here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Now do folks get it when Brandon Marshall subtly questioned the dedication of some of his teammates!!! Didn't Sheldon make the same inuendos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: Well the alternative was giving it to a guy that endangered a child, so which is the lesser of two evils Or they could have put in conditional clauses tied to his behavior. If you can do it for injuries, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, Xtina said: Or they could have put in conditional clauses tied to his behavior. If you can do it for injuries, why not? I dont know if you can do it just for missing meetings. The Union would have a field day with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I dont know if you can do it just for missing meetings. The Union would have a field day with that sometimes the GM ****s up and gets called out for it its ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, Larz said: sometimes the GM ****s up and gets called out for it its ok I have called him out for a couple of mistakes he has made. Signing Wilkerson, AT THE TIME, was a move that was generally liked by most.People thought he had earned the deal and were screaming to "Pay him" And as noted, he did try to trade Wilkerson before signing him. Calling out the GM is all well in good, but it has to fit the facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: I have called him out for a couple of mistakes he has made. Signing Wilkerson, AT THE TIME, was a move that was generally liked by most.People thought he had earned the deal and were screaming to "Pay him" And as noted, he did try to trade Wilkerson before signing him. Calling out the GM is all well in good, but it has to fit the facts are the jets a well run franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Larz said: are the jets a well run franchise? Football wise, if Woody stays out of the way, I think we can get there in time with this guy. He has already proven he can evaluate talent to a better degree than his predecessors and that will lead to a winning culture. He also has to deal with a media and fanbase that wont accept a full rebuild, so "competitive rebuild" is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 32 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: No. Did you also support re-signing Fitz and Wilk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, Mike135 said: Did you also support re-signing Fitz and Wilk? Yes Wilkerson as long as it wasn't over 100m which is reserved for JJ Watt Fitz if it was only a short term deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Yes Wilkerson Fitz if it was only a short term deal. Cool. Just wanted to see where you were coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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