UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Name the last QB out of the SEC that has succeeded in the NFL and become a franchise QB The one I can think of is Stafford then Eli Manning. SEC QBs for the most part have not translated well to the NFL, probably because SEC teams build their teams around defense and skill positions. Tebow, Manziel, McCarron, McElroy, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Flynn, All busts or not major QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 That DUI didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Cam Newton, Jay Cutler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Cam Newton, Jay Cutler Newton's "success" took a step back this year. So he's still on the book. Needs to have another major Super Bowl run, I think. Plus, he started for basically one year in the SEC. Cutler is in the same boat as Stafford. Good but playoff success has eluded them. Franchise QB is loose with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Eli, Cam, Cutler...etc, is this dude serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, RutgersJetFan said: Eli, Cam, Cutler...etc, is this dude serious? Eli I mentioned. The other two I put in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 What have SEC quarterbacks ever accomplished I mean really. Well two of them faced each other in the Super Bowl last year. ALRIGHT BESIDES THAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Nonsense. There's no correlation between the conference a QB played in and this success level. Look up every current NFL starters college conference -- it's all over the place. SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Mountain West, MAC, even FCS schools/conferences. If anything more SEC QBs have been drafted high than other conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, RutgersJetFan said: What have SEC quarterbacks ever accomplished I mean really. Well two of them faced each other in the Super Bowl last year. ALRIGHT BESIDES THAT Yep Two QBs who were supported by awesome defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 This organizations scouting department,GM and head coach should leave no stones unturned when evaluating a college QB havent they realized one isn't going to show up at the facility hard work and perseverance are needed so we can draft a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Yeah, I think the analysis that the SEC has a pro-QB problem seems very superficial and flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Yep Two QBs who were supported by awesome defenses. Cam Newton was the MVP. Pretty sure he plays offense, Yet I do agree he is big enough to play defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, UntouchableCrew said: Nonsense. There's no correlation between the conference a QB played in and this success level. Look up every current NFL starters college conference -- it's all over the place. SEC, Big Ten, ACC, Mountain West, MAC, even FCS schools/conferences. If anything more SEC QBs have been drafted high than other conferences. I believe there is. Simply because I think talented Blue chip QB prospects tend to avoid the SEC because of the defenses. They want to go to the Big 12 where they can pass free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Dak had the legal issue but in reality he just was not seen as a franchise guy by most teams. Slipped through the cracks but that happens. That is one reason i do not gnash my teeth over russel wilson. A good looking but small QB from Wisconsin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, The Crusher said: Cam Newton was the MVP. Pretty sure he plays offense, Yet I do agree he is big enough to play defense. Yes and what has happened this year? One great year doesn't make you a great QB. The jury is still out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: This organizations scouting department,GM and head coach should leave no stones unturned when evaluating a college QB havent they realized one isn't going to show up at the facility hard work and perseverance are needed so we can draft a good one. So according to you, 32 teams didn't do a good enough job scouting Prescott and the Cowboys fell into him by dumb luck in the 4th round since the guy they really wanted was gone . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Really, when you look at QBs around the league, one minute this guy is doing well, the next minute they aren't. Prescott is doing well this year. But will he last? who knows...You guys are all over the latest guy ALWAYS. And then you trash a college football conference. You sound stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: I believe there is. Simply because I think talented Blue chip QB prospects tend to avoid the SEC because of the defenses. They want to go to the Big 12 where they can pass free Except the Big XII has produced... Who, exactly? Sam Bradford? Ryan Tannehill? Vince Young? RGIII? The Big XII has been the worst conference in the country for producing NFL QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 sec qbs starting right now. 2nd to only the PAC 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just now, UntouchableCrew said: Except the Big XII has produced... Who, exactly? Sam Bradford? Ryan Tannehill? Vince Young? RGIII? The Big XII has been the worst conference in the country for producing NFL QBs. Very true. The conferences with the best record of NFL QBs are the Big 10 and the Pac 12 Tom Brady, Kirk Cousins, Drew Brees, could say Russell Wilson, but he was in the conference for only a year. Pac 12 has Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, Jared Goff now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: 5 sec qbs starting right now. 2nd to only the PAC 10 And how are they doing. Panthers - wah wah Bears- wah wah Giants- good drafted 12 years ago Lions- okay dratted 7 years ago Cowboys- great I'm talking recent times with SEC QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Yes and what has happened this year? One great year doesn't make you a great QB. The jury is still out So they have to be "great" to translate well to the NFL? Seriously? We can't find a mediocre game manager but Cam Newton isn't great enough to translate well to the NFL? Guy won the MVP last year but did not translate well? He took a step back but damn I would love Cam newton to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: So they have to be "great" to translate well to the NFL? Seriously? We can't find a mediocre game manager but Cam Newton isn't great enough to translate well to the NFL? Guy won the MVP last year but did not translate well? He took a step back but damn I would love Cam newton to be here. Depends on what the definition of a franchise QB is. Ryan Fitzpatrick's career stats shows he's mediocre. Shaun Alexander won the MVP at running back. Was he a great back? I wouldnt want Newton here because I don't think he could handle the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, Tinstar said: So according to you, 32 teams didn't do a good enough job scouting Prescott and the Cowboys fell into him by dumb luck in the 4th round since the guy they really wanted was gone . No what I posted was about this organization and their QB search learn how to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Depends on what the definition of a franchise QB is. Ryan Fitzpatrick's career stats shows he's mediocre. Shaun Alexander won the MVP at running back. Was he a great back? I wouldnt want Newton here because I don't think he could handle the market. So what does you not wanting him here because you are afraid his feelings would get hurt have to do with him not translating well to the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 18 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Yes and what has happened this year? One great year doesn't make you a great QB. The jury is still out So your point is that Dak was overlooked in the draft because the Jets knew Cam Newton, who was the reigning MVP, was going to have a regression this year? Because SEC. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 wait. ... ... da fuk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 When you factor in the tortured logic behind it, this is maybe the dumbest thread ever posted on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Guys, you know a place that constantly churns out great pro quarterbacks? Penn State. BIG MACC BABY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: No what I posted was about this organization and their QB search learn how to read. You have earned your trip to ignore land . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Tinstar said: You have earned your trip to ignore land . Good you post trash and I dont like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Ryan Fitzpatrick is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: Name the last QB out of the SEC that has succeeded in the NFL and become a franchise QB The one I can think of is Stafford then Eli Manning. SEC QBs for the most part have not translated well to the NFL, probably because SEC teams build their teams around defense and skill positions. Tebow, Manziel, McCarron, McElroy, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Flynn, All busts or not major QBs Peyton Manning - University of Tennessee. Jay Cutler - Vanderbilt, Cam Newton - Auburn, Eli Manning - Ol Miss. Now Dak. SEC is more of a defense, RB conference but they have their moments at QB too. Some big busts, but some great ones too. Toss in Matthew Stafford - Georgia as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 57 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I'm talking recent times with SEC QBs You mean "recent" like Tom Brady and Drew Brees in your list? I think your recent Big 10 list is Kirk Cousins and kindof Russel Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I forgot the title of this thread was why Jets passed on Dak Prescott. First they had drafted Hackenberg in second round and second Jets are just historically bad at picking QB talent. If there is a QB they can overlook in ANY draft they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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