Jetdawgg Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, AFJF said: We can agree to disagree on Geno. I'd prefer a QB first then BAP at OL, CB and pass rusher. My preference is to build the rest of the team till a premium QB is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 16 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Trading SR does not strengthen the team. No true NT with Snacks like capability. 14 minutes ago, AFJF said: Agreed...he'll go in the first round. Didn't Kelly tear his ACL? He is now projected to go in the 6-7th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, AFJF said: My preference would be a QB in rd 1, but I can live with no QB in rd 1 as long as they get Kelly in rd 2. Chad Kelly unfortunately tore his ACL, and won't be ready for the combine or any off season work outs so he probably won't get picked till rd 5, or later. I liked Kelly to shame he got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Kelly won't be picked until rd 5 or later because of his ACL injury . Wow...I saw he was injured but read it was a meniscus, not a big deal. Just looked that up and saw it was ACL also. Would love to see him sitting there in round 3 or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Tim Williams is our best shot at getting a real pass rushing OLB we are not passing on him to draft a running back or overrated qb prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Lupz27 said: Chad Kelly unfortunately tore his ACL, and won't be ready for the combine or any off season work outs so he probably won't get picked till rd 5, or later. I liked Kelly to shame he got hurt. So draft him in round 5, cut either Petty or Hack and sign a veteran like Glennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, AFJF said: Wow...I saw he was injured but read it was a meniscus, not a big deal. Just looked that up and saw it was ACL also. Would love to see him sitting there in round 3. Pat Mahomes II, get it done Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Lupz27 said: Pat Mahomes II, get it done Jets. Did some homework on him last week...intriguing prospect to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, AFJF said: Did some homework on him last week...intriguing prospect to say the least. My favorite of all the upcoming prospects for a lot of reasons, I've made several posts about it in the draft forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 No QB worth that high of a pick.....check Would have to reach on a LT to some extent....check RB's being mentioned are no Ezekiel Elliots and are fools gold that high....check Hybrid playmaker there but we drafted a lesser version last year thus no need.....check Possible dominant pass rushing olb there but our current coach like many others feels his scheme is more important than players and would turn our pass rushing olb into a set the edge or pass coverage olb....check Top 2 or 3 real prospects are all dlineman and we already have so many we are playing them at LB.....check Team need of a CB will magically become a fit with who ever is there even though we are drafting bpa.....check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Nah. In his first attempt he ran right past Prescott. The Jets have had a lot of those kind of pass rushers through time. Marvin Washington's specialty was looping around the QB only to have him step up and elude his reach. Looks like he has a hard time shaking blockers as well. Take the CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, Beerfish said: No QB worth that high of a pick.....check Would have to reach on a LT to some extent....check RB's being mentioned are no Ezekiel Elliots and are fools gold that high....check Hybrid playmaker there but we drafted a lesser version last year thus no need.....check Possible dominant pass rushing olb there but our current coach like many others feels his scheme is more important than players and would turn our pass rushing olb into a set the edge or pass coverage olb....check Top 2 or 3 real prospects are all dlineman and we already have so many we are playing them at LB.....check Team need of a CB will magically become a fit with who ever is there even though we are drafting bpa.....check QB remains to be seen. Taking Robinson at LT would 't be reaching at all. He's a top-10 pick in sevearal mock drafts, just saw one that has him to Cincy at 6. Agreed on RB...don't take one Agreed on hybrid, they just took one. Williams has the tools to be a dominant PR, but do you take a part-time player that high? If not QB, I think they do go CB and say he was "number one on our board" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 36 minutes ago, drdetroit said: Remember people laughing at the Giants for spending money on Snacks? Guess the Giants are having the last laugh. Not really. Nose tackle hasn't been a problem this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, drdetroit said: Tim Williams is our best shot at getting a real pass rushing OLB we are not passing on him to draft a running back or overrated qb prospect Can he play DE in the NFL? The Jets are using 4 DT's on the DL currently and do not have a Snacks like NT. They will have to move McL and add a DE speed rusher to have. True 4 man DL. Then they can work on the LB corps becoming a true 4/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 15 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Not really. Nose tackle hasn't been a problem this year Yes it has. We have a 4/3 DL using all DT's. The LB corps is still made for 3/4. That has lead to issues in the secondary. Signing McL was another bad error by Macc. McL is a good player. He was just not a good fir for the Jets as he is not a true NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 We need a shutdown CB and some quick big hit tackling machine LB's and S did I forget to mention a QB and a RB and OL help now where are we and who are we drafting.. We also need a head coach, offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 16 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: We need a shutdown CB and some quick big hit tackling machine LB's and S did I forget to mention a QB and a RB and OL help now where are we and who are we drafting.. We also need a head coach, offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. A shutdown CB cannot help the team w/o a pass rush. Speedy DE or RB in round 1. Improves this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Jetdawgg said: A shutdown CB cannot help the team w/o a pass rush. Speedy DE or RB in round 1. Improves this team Agree I've been saying that all along when the Revis critiques come out give a QB all damn day and no secondary or CB looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober36 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 The safety play has been a huge issue. A. Lot of completed deep balls due to miscommunication and just poor play. Jabrill Peppers would change that from day 1. Smart guy who is extremely athletic, you can put him anywhere. Not only that, but he is a leader (which we haven't seen on our defense). Jabrill or OlineSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 26 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Yes it has. We have a 4/3 DL using all DT's. The LB corps is still made for 3/4. That has lead to issues in the secondary. Signing McL was another bad error by Macc. McL is a good player. He was just not a good fir for the Jets as he is not a true NT. They are 3rd in stopping the run. That is what a nose tackle is for. He's been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 it can only be 3 positions QB, LT, edge pass rusher they can move up or down to get one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Chad Kelly would be a great pick late in the draft to stash on the IR for a year and hope he develops. Peppers would be my first choice. Can be a playmaker at Safety/LB. Lee is a different player, imho. I am skeptical of Williams because of the Alabama factor and Watson because of the Vince Young factor. I like Kizer - but he won't last to our pick. Wouldnt mind trading down and rebuilding the OL either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 tank for tankersly !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: They are 3rd in stopping the run. That is what a nose tackle is for. He's been fine. No consistent pass rush. They are weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, RSJ said: Chad Kelly would be a great pick late in the draft to stash on the IR for a year and hope he develops. Peppers would be my first choice. Can be a playmaker at Safety/LB. Lee is a different player, imho. I am skeptical of Williams because of the Alabama factor and Watson because of the Vince Young factor. I like Kizer - but he won't last to our pick. Wouldnt mind trading down and rebuilding the OL either. Peppers is 6 1 205 my concern is Bowles and where he would use him....great player NJ native Jake Butt Michigan TE is another good player Until we find a QB nothing else matters............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Mike135 said: No olinemen worth an early 1st? I'd be fine going oline in rounds 1 through 4. Can never have enough good linemen, and they make the entire team better. This. Give me tackles and a center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Jetdawgg said: No consistent pass rush. They are weak. That's not what a nose tackle's primary job is. Snacks didn't do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Dunnie said: i don't want a Vet ... i dont want Geno ... i want to see more of Petty to decide on him. I do want 3 young promising QBs to compete next summer. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 17 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: That's not what a nose tackle's primary job is. Snacks didn't do that Snacks was a run stuffer McClendon has done an admirable job at the position. Cant tie up all the cap money on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thshadow Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Dunnie said: i don't want a Vet ... .... I do want 3 young promising QBs to compete next summer. I agree. You want a vet QB if you have a good team, and you want someone that can win a game or two if the starter is hurt, to maintain your chances at the playoffs. That's not us. It's a lot better for this team to miss out on the playoffs by a game or two (next year), if it means that we're developing a young QB. There's nothing worse than going 7-9 with a bunch of declining vets (see Fitzpatrick, Ryan). It's (obviously) better to be the Raiders with Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 59 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: That's not what a nose tackle's primary job is. Snacks didn't do that It is a team effort. Losing Snacks hurt the Jets badly. We are now a 4/3 team with 4 DT's starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Jetdawgg said: It is a team effort. Losing Snacks hurt the Jets badly. We are now a 4/3 team with 4 DT's starting. No we are not. We are a 3/4 team that should have a rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: No we are not. We are a 3/4 team that should have a rotation. Have you watched the Jets this year? 3-7. Losing Snacks hurt. They Jets play 4/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Jetdawgg said: Have you watched the Jets this year? 3-7. Losing Snacks hurt. They Jets play 4/3 They shouldn't. I have said this. That's on the coaches and their inability to get the most out of your talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, Jetdawgg said: Have you watched the Jets this year? 3-7. Losing Snacks hurt. They Jets play 4/3 The Jets play a sh*t defense that Bowles thinks other teams are fooled by they arent he's not as good as Bruce Arians cracked him up to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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