UnitedWhofans Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: The Jets play a sh*t defense that Bowles thinks other teams are fooled by they arent he's not as good as Bruce Arians cracked him up to be. Well he hasn't been there in two years and the Cardinals haven't really done much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Well he hasn't been there in two years and the Cardinals haven't really done much Neither have the Jets the 2 years he's been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: Neither have the Jets the 2 years he's been here. But given the roster he was given, that's to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: But given the roster he was given, that's to be expected. Disagree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: Disagree 100% Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Disagree 100% ... i was with you till this statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Disagree 100% ... i was with you till this statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Too bad we can't draft a HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Clouds Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 26 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Too bad we can't draft a HC The way we have drafted in the past, that might be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 5 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: If sitting through this season lands us yet another cornerback or front-seven jabroni, I am going to be upset about that. And I will write a post explaining just how upset I am. Way to promise you're A game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 8 hours ago, drdetroit said: Tim Williams aint no jabroni. Watch him make Dak Prescott run for his life. Wow, that was not impressive at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Deshaun Watson Cam Robinson Leonard Fournette Any of those 3 will do for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Offense. I don't care what position. We're not capable of drafting for defense unless it's the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 LSU running back Leonard Fournette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 10 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Peppers is 6 1 205 my concern is Bowles and where he would use him....great player NJ native Jake Butt Michigan TE is another good player Until we find a QB nothing else matters............ I couldn't disagree more. Get a good OL and a good defense and you can win with most QB's. The OL and defense on this team sucks right now. Look at the time Dak, Brady, Wilson, Rodgers and other winning QB's are getting, then look at the Jets. As far as Peppers goes, he can be an Ed Reed game changer on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Right now...as we speak......busy searching for the next Smurphy Lee. The Jets should let the fan base make the selection. Send out official NYJ draft pick cards to the PSL owners and let them write in their pick. Highest vote count gets selected. Could the fans do any worse than mgmnt has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Best Player Available. If it's DL, trade someone. Best means high impact, ready to play now. You reach for a qb if you don't have one. Based on what I see, that player is likely Fournette is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 20 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: Needs 3 more QBs. One in each round. Practically guarantees a fourth round QB is destined for the Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 If we're not drafting QB and OL every round, Ima poop on Woody's car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 We all know we are picking the best CB on the board. Just accept it now. I would be happy with Leo F, Cam Robinson, or if we have a shot at a QB our brain trust feels could be our guy,not holding my breath on the QB pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 21 hours ago, peekskill68 said: The Broncos proved last year that a big investment in defense can overcome mediocre QB play. The Jets have made a huge investment in defense and continue to employ defensive minded head coaches. The basic difference here is that our defense and coaching is producing at a far lower level than what one would expect given the money and draft resources that's been committed. The Jets have been trying to prove this out for over a decade. The Broncos were the exception, not the norm. Time for a big investment in a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 You can't draft Peppers because Gilchrist already has that job and already makes too much money, even though he sucks. You'd also have to be creative to maximize Peppers' abilities, and we're the opposite of creative. They can't draft a QB because they drafted Hackenberg, even though Hackenberg sucks. They won't draft a WR because Marshall, Enunwa, and Decker are already signed, and Maccagnan blew a 2 on Devin Smith. The No. 1 area of need in 2017 will be CB, the head coach is an alleged DB guru, and the only healthy, capable CB on the roster next year will be someone named Juston Burris. So, they'll draft a CB or a RT, then trade for Romo or Cutler in the offseason, not because they're good options, but because Woody will think they'll fill some seats. also, there are no draft "experts." They're all idiots who steal money for three months until they revert to being really ******* stupid fantasy football "analysts." have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Integrity28 said: The Jets have been trying to prove this out for over a decade. The Broncos were the exception, not the norm. Time for a big investment in a QB. I actually agree with you, but you could make the case that 3 of the past 4 SB winners were defense dominant (Broncos 2016, Seahawks 2014, Ravens 2013)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: You can't draft Peppers because Gilchrist already has that job and already makes too much money, even though he sucks. You'd also have to be creative to maximize Peppers' abilities, and we're the opposite of creative. They can't draft a QB because they drafted Hackenberg, even though Hackenberg sucks. They won't draft a WR because Marshall, Enunwa, and Decker are already signed, and Maccagnan blew a 2 on Devin Smith. The No. 1 area of need in 2017 will be CB, the head coach is an alleged DB guru, and the only healthy, capable CB on the roster next year will be someone named Juston Burris. So, they'll draft a CB or a RT, then trade for Romo or Cutler in the offseason, not because they're good options, but because Woody will think they'll fill some seats. also, there are no draft "experts." They're all idiots who steal money for three months until they revert to being really ******* stupid fantasy football "analysts." have a nice day They can cut Gilchrist. I'm interested to see Peppers in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Just now, peekskill68 said: I actually agree with you, but you could make the case that 3 of the past 4 SB winners were defense dominant (Broncos 2016, Seahawks 2014, Ravens 2013)... And the Patriots won with their best defense in YEARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: They can cut Gilchrist. I'm interested to see Peppers in this game. It'll be tons of fun drafting a free safety at 5, then spending two years teaching him how to play safety, then letting Calvin Pryor walk as a free agent, then signing another safety to start alongside Peppers in two years. That'll own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Marlon Humphrey**, CB, Alabama. Height: 6-1. ... Adoree' Jackson*, CB, USC. Height: 5-11. ... Marshon Lattimore**, CB, Ohio State. Height: 6-0. ... Jalen Tabor*, CB, Florida. Height: 6-0. ... Desmond King, CB, Iowa. Height: 5-11. ... Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson. Height: 6-1. ... Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU. ... Sidney Jones*, CB, Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: It'll be tons of fun drafting a free safety at 5, then spending two years teaching him how to play safety, then letting Calvin Pryor walk as a free agent, then signing another safety to start alongside Peppers in two years. That'll own. That's why I want to see if he is a true playmaker. I understand that concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 We need immediate impact players in rounds 1-2-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 25 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You can't draft Peppers because Gilchrist already has that job and already makes too much money, even though he sucks. You'd also have to be creative to maximize Peppers' abilities, and we're the opposite of creative. They can't draft a QB because they drafted Hackenberg, even though Hackenberg sucks. They won't draft a WR because Marshall, Enunwa, and Decker are already signed, and Maccagnan blew a 2 on Devin Smith. The No. 1 area of need in 2017 will be CB, the head coach is an alleged DB guru, and the only healthy, capable CB on the roster next year will be someone named Juston Burris. So, they'll draft a CB or a RT, then trade for Romo or Cutler in the offseason, not because they're good options, but because Woody will think they'll fill some seats. also, there are no draft "experts." They're all idiots who steal money for three months until they revert to being really ******* stupid fantasy football "analysts." have a nice day If Mac likes Hack, so be it. However, my hope is that there's no way they pass on a QB with a higher grade because Hack might be a good player once he learns how to throw a football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Just now, AFJF said: If Mac likes Hack, so be it. However, my hope is that there's no way they pass on a QB with a higher grade because Hack might be a good player once he learns how to throw a football. If they're coming off a 5-11 season, there's no way the GM has the guts to concede that he burned a two on Hackenberg, especially considering Kizer and Watson aren't can't-miss guys. Macc pushed all of his chips in on the Hack pick last year, which only compounds how indefensible it was. The big red flag on Maccagnan was that he was a scout who didn't understand the totality of running an organization, and that Hack pick was the definitive evidence that the red flag was spot-on. Unless Hackenberg has an epiphany this offseason, Macc effectively ended the careers of everyone on the current staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: If they're coming off a 5-11 season, there's no way the GM has the guts to concede that he burned a two on Hackenberg, especially considering Kizer and Watson aren't can't-miss guys. Macc pushed all of his chips in on the Hack pick last year, which only compounds how indefensible it was. The big red flag on Maccagnan was that he was a scout who didn't understand the totality of running an organization, and that Hack pick was the definitive evidence that the red flag was spot-on. Unless Hackenberg has an epiphany this offseason, Macc effectively ended the careers of everyone on the current staff. Hoping he's serious enough about the QB position that he'd take another one early on in the upcoming draft if grade warranted it. He was spotted talking to Kizer on the filed pre-game when ND played at MetLife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Michigan -Ohio State hope Macc is watching....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, AFJF said: Hoping he's serious enough about the QB position that he'd take another one early on in the upcoming draft if grade warranted it. He was spotted talking to Kizer on the filed pre-game when ND played at MetLife. The question will be if he has the guts to make that pick, regardless of the grade. I don't know if he has that kind of cachet in the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I mean, was there a more spineless move than giving Ryan Fitzpatrick $12 million dollars in late July? Pure chickensh*t, there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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