Rangers9 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 I always thought maybe Vern could have used a position change. That he might have at least had the physical and the mental attributes to compete better on offense. Like at tight end. Not sure it was ever under consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 55 minutes ago, Powpow said: We must hold the record for the highest draft busts ever. Johnny Lam Jones, Browning Nagle, Blair Thomas, Lageman, Kyle Brady, Gholston ugggghh I need a Tylenol. Sorry Pow but Lageman does not belong in that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Beerfish said: Know what I remember about that? All the reasons these guys used to justify getting Jordan = all the reasons that were used to justify getting Darron Lee last year. Sure he is small but he is fast! He can cover LBs. TES!, He will be a play maker at the next level even if he had little play making production in college! One has nothing to do with the other. Maybe you can find a way to bring Hack into it too? Because theres no F'n way you'll bring any of the quick players who succeeded. Remember when the Dolphins drafted J Taylor, undersized and fast? How about Thomas? Short and fast? Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: The thing with Gholston was that he was overdrafted almost entirely based on his Combine performance, which makes his selection worse. If a dude was a third rounder before the Combine, he's a third rounder after the Combine, too. No. Not true. He also had a great combine, but he produced sacks in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 36 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: I always thought maybe Vern could have used a position change. That he might have at least had the physical and the mental attributes to compete better on offense. Like at tight end. Not sure it was ever under consideration. He just had no passion for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Jets luck. No player deserving of that draft slot. Gholston was more of a draft and pray pick. Dolphins went out of their way to trade up for him, wanted him. Much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: I just remember the alleged draft guru community jerking each other off over Jordan like he was going to reinvent the sport. It's much easier to be a Monday morning QB than predict the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Jets luck. No player deserving of that draft slot. Gholston was more of a draft and pray pick. Dolphins went out of their way to trade up for him, wanted him. Much worse Pretty much sums it all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Gholston v Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 You guys were right and I remembered incorrectly. Still, eff you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 7 hours ago, T0mShane said: The thing with Gholston was that he was overdrafted almost entirely based on his Combine performance, which makes his selection worse. If a dude was a third rounder before the Combine, he's a third rounder after the Combine, too. Gholston was a first rounder before the combine. He had the production at a big time program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsmanjb Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Should we sign him ? Could we get him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Gholstons highest achievement ? ... making me forget Blair Thomas Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 That 2013 draft top half was a bust. Only Ziggy Ansah made the Pro Bowl out of those Top Ten picks. The next pro bowler? Sheldon Richardson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 7 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Gholston was a first rounder before the combine. He had the production at a big time program. Yeah, I went back and looked and I'm wrong. I swear I have one of the draft guides from that year that had him as a third rounder, and they estimated he'd run a 4.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 That 2013 draft top half was a bust. Only Ziggy Ansah made the Pro Bowl out of those Top Ten picks. The next pro bowler? Sheldon Richardson ... the soon to be ex JetSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 15 hours ago, Beerfish said: Lolphins just cut Jordan. Gholston 6th overall, 0 sacks, 45 games, 5 games started vs Dion Jordan who was 3rd overall and the Phins had to trade up to get? 3 sacks, 1 start, 28 games. Vernon Gholston, just for the fact that Gholston left 9 million on the table. In his contract Gholston would have received an additional 9 Million dollar bonus if he simply recorded a regular season sack or recovered a fumble. He couldnt even do that. That is a special kind of bust my friend. Anyone of this forum would have found a way to record 1 sack for a 9 million dollar bonus. Nothing beats that in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokiejetfan92 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Vernon Gholston, just for the fact that Gholston left 9 million on the table. In his contract Gholston would have received an additional 9 Million dollar bonus if he simply recorded a regular season sack or recovered a fumble. He couldnt even do that. That is a special kind of bust my friend. Anyone of this forum would have found a way to record 1 sack for a 9 million dollar bonus. Nothing beats that in my opinion. Gotta agree with you here. Jordan is the kinda bust that used drugs/immature and a waste of talent etc Gholston was literally a big puzzie in a beast's body. He played scared and had no killer instinct, constantly thinking instead of playing football. It sort of did not make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 There will never be another Gholston. He is the Ryan Leaf of OLB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 13 hours ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Gholston by far. Here's an interesting tidbit, Jordan was drafted in 2013, first round. Fifteen of the 32 players selected in the 1St round are no longer with their original teams, including eight of the first 12 picks. Source http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/31/dolphins-part-ways-with-dion-jordan/ Chance Warmack, who a lot of people were crowing about being soooo much better than Milliner, had to sign a one year deal just to stay in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 13 hours ago, Matt39 said: Kyle Wilson sucked just as bad. Oh yes he did. Gosh he was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 16 hours ago, Beerfish said: Lolphins just cut Jordan. Gholston 6th overall, 0 sacks, 45 games, 5 games started vs Dion Jordan who was 3rd overall and the Phins had to trade up to get? 3 sacks, 1 start, 28 games. At least Gholston played some games. Dion Jordan is just a drug addled punk who doesn't want to play football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 22 minutes ago, thadude said: Chance Warmack, who a lot of people were crowing about being soooo much better than Milliner, had to sign a one year deal just to stay in the NFL I was guilty of wanting Chance, but he still was better Milliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 5 hours ago, T0mShane said: Yeah, I went back and looked and I'm wrong. I swear I have one of the draft guides from that year that had him as a third rounder, and they estimated he'd run a 4.8. Hindsight is 20/20. The guy had the production and measurables. He was the right pick at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 12 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: I was guilty of wanting Chance, but he still was better Milliner. Both are JAGs just Milliner was made of glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 8 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Hindsight is 20/20. The guy had the production and measurables. He was the right pick at the time. The real abortion was Geno over Glennon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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