faba Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Darren RovellESPN Senior Writer Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email print comment NFL television ratings fell 9.7 percent during the 2017 regular season, according to numbers registered by Nielsen. A typical game was watched by 1.6 million fewer people this season as compared to last season (14.9 million versus 16.5 million). The drop comes after the NFL had hoped to stem an 8 percent ratings slide from last season by experimenting with the format for television commercials and trying to speed up the game. Last year's slide was partly attributed to a lost audience due to the presidential election. This year, the NFL was challenged with fans upset at players protesting during the national anthem, an action that led to a league faceoff with President Donald Trump. Other factors cited include the dilution of the product through Thursday Night Football, which was broadcast on the NFL Network, CBS, NBC and Amazon Prime in 2017. This season, both Fox CEO James Murdoch and CBS Sports Chairman Sean McManus blamed the ratings slide on the proliferation of games. The NFL RedZone also might be a factor in taking fans away from watching the daytime games on CBS and FOX. The NFL Network and DirecTV, which air separate versions of the show that broadcast live look-ins, have never shared viewership numbers. The NFL isn't in a vacuum, as the viewership drop is indicative of the general environment as less television is being watched and cable subscriptions have declined. The NBA, however, has seen a 20 percent increase in viewership this season as compared to 2016-17. Despite the drop in NFL ratings, Nielsen data shows that the 20 of the 30 highest-rated shows on television in 2017 were football games. Both NBC and ESPN had the most-watched shows every single week, in terms of audience and in all key male demographics, for Sunday Night Football and Monday Night Football games this season. NBC's Sunday Night Football finished first in prime time this fall for the seventh consecutive year, besting "American Idol" (2005-06 through 2010-11) for the longest hold on the top prime-time spot since 1950. Its 18.2 million viewers beat the second-best prime-time show, Thursday Night Football on CBS, by 29 percent -- its largest margin ever. ESPN officials reported earlier in the week that the network grew its total day viewership in 2017 by 1 percent, while prime time was up 7 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 That's a huge number Personally, not feeling like you can celebrate a touchdown until you see the replay, not knowing what a catch is and obvious favoritism in the scheduling for the flagship teams are all my turnoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Get rid of all the political bullsh*t and stupid celebrations as well as the awful rules and reviews and it might get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 9 per cent following 8 per cent yeah that is a hit NFL owners can see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 How about get rid of the ridiculous penalties that dominate every game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Funny, NBA's ratings keep on getting better and better each year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, SMC said: Funny, NBA's ratings keep on getting better and better each year Basketball Games are generally shorter and easier sport to follow. Millennials lack the attention span for football and baseball Plus the Lakers have Lonzo Ball and the Knicks have been competitive so the two biggest markets have been getting more viewers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 words... STOP kneeling. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Get rid of all the political bullsh*t and stupid celebrations as well as the awful reviews and it might get better. yup, my uncle unplugged the cable going into his house so my cousins couldnt watch football on sundays this year. he wasnt having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Overexposure on Thursday nights with short turnaround times leading to terrible games mostly, terrible referring of games, and people fed up with political statements , etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Awful, awful rules and reviews and blatant favoritism of some teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, whodeawhodat said: yup, my uncle unplugged the cable going into his house so my cousins couldnt watch football on sundays this year. he wasnt having it. Way to penalize the 99.9% of players who do stand for the anthem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, SMC said: Funny, NBA's ratings keep on getting better and better each year That won't last if there is a few more years of only 2 or 3 teams being in contention every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Way to penalize the 99.9% of players who do stand for the anthem how is that penalizing players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Awful, awful rules and reviews and blatant favoritism of some teams. The constant penalties are killing the viewing experience on tv. That ad the fact that you had to basically have the football crazyglued to your hand this season for a touchdown to count against the patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, whodeawhodat said: how is that penalizing players? Less revenue for the league = less % of revenue has to go to player salaries its directly punishing the players most most of whom are standing for the anthem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Wait til the raiders move to Vegas and people actually start thinking the games are rigged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I was a big fan of adding reviews to sports in order to get the play right but I believe that the NFL (and the NHL) have taken it too far to the extreme. Plays are supposed to be overturned only if there is CLEAR evidence. There are too many occasions where plays are overturned on disputable evidence. I think all sports should implement the following rules in regards to replays: 1) All reviewable plays must be reviewed within 60 seconds. If a decision can't be made in that timeframe, call on the field stands. 2) Refs only get to review the play in slow motion 1 time. The rest must be done in live action, the same as the refs on the field have to call it. I think slow motion is really messing with the outcomes because you are so focused on a matter of mm's, whether it's a ball moving after a catch or if there is space between a foot and the out of bounds marker. If it is that hard to tell that you need to review in slow motion 10x to make a decision then call on the field should stand! For instance, I am a big Devils fan and for the 2nd time in 4 games, the NHL has taken away game leading goals on questionable evidence. Last night, they spent 5 minutes reviewing whether the puck moved across the blue line a few mm ahead of our players skate, as if that had any impact on us scoring a goal a minute later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, Philc1 said: Less revenue for the league = less % of revenue has to go to player salaries its directly punishing the players most most of whom are standing for the anthem oh got it, I feel sorry for them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, SMC said: Funny, NBA's ratings keep on getting better and better each year Funny, I find NBA unwatchable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, whodeawhodat said: oh got it, I feel sorry for them... They are standing for the anthem. I hope all these people boycotting because of the idiot Kaepernick feel they deserve a medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Im thrilled that the ratings are falling so much. The NFL has pretty much said FU to the hard core fan and said you are our bitch and will watch what we tell you to watch, while we go after fantasy sports and allow political statements to overrun our game. I have 3 kids and none of the are football fans at all, I refuse to force them to be fans of the crap that they have been feeding us for years now, and the game is not good enough to make them fans on their own. FU NFL, players and owners alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, Philc1 said: They are standing for the anthem. I hope all these people boycotting because of the idiot Kaepernick feel they deserve a medal nothing to worry about there, my uncle has his medal already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, JetFreak89 said: I was a big fan of adding reviews to sports in order to get the play right but I believe that the NFL (and the NHL) have taken it too far to the extreme. Plays are supposed to be overturned only if there is CLEAR evidence. There are too many occasions where plays are overturned on disputable evidence. I think all sports should implement the following rules in regards to replays: 1) All reviewable plays must be reviewed within 60 seconds. If a decision can't be made in that timeframe, call on the field stands. 2) Refs only get to review the play in slow motion 1 time. The rest must be done in live action, the same as the refs on the field have to call it. I think slow motion is really messing with the outcomes because you are so focused on a matter of mm's, whether it's a ball moving after a catch or if there is space between a foot and the out of bounds marker. If it is that hard to tell that you need to review in slow motion 10x to make a decision then call on the field should stand! For instance, I am a big Devils fan and for the 2nd time in 4 games, the NHL has taken away game leading goals on questionable evidence. Last night, they spent 5 minutes reviewing whether the puck moved across the blue line a few mm ahead of our players skate, as if that had any impact on us scoring a goal a minute later. All sports need to get rid of instant replay. It sucks, it hurts the viewing experience and they still get the friggin calls wrong How the F does baseball have the audacity to have replay those games are 4+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, whodeawhodat said: nothing to worry about there, my uncle has his medal already. So do I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Philc1 said: So do I great, thats at least 2 people who arent looking for medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Less revenue for the league = less % of revenue has to go to player salaries its directly punishing the players most most of whom are standing for the anthem Tough friggin luck, as they all like to say each time they become FAs or such or owners do things like move teams. "It's a business" and if people get ticked at employees of the business for disrespecting them then tough nooggies. If I go to a restaurant and the server pisses me off it is my choice to not go back, not to say, oh no! I am hurting all the other people who work there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: Tough friggin luck, as they all like to say each time they become FAs or such or owners do things like move teams. "It's a business" and if people get ticked at employees of the business for disrespecting them then tough nooggies. If I go to a restaurant and the server pisses me off it is my choice to not go back, not to say, oh no! I am hurting all the other people who work there! Oh ok enjoy watching bowling on ESPN on Sunday afternoons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Less revenue for the league = less % of revenue has to go to player salaries its directly punishing the players most most of whom are standing for the anthem Then the players standing should tell the other nimrods to start standing and pick a different venue to voice their hypocritical views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I can't wait to see the numbers after Rodgers big new contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, NoBowles said: Then the players standing should tell the other nimrods to start standing and pick a different venue to voice their hypocritical views Yeah I’m sure Derek Carr is going to enjoy telling Marshawn Lynch he better stand “or else” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 The standing thing is so tired and overblown.. polls show that issue is not having that much of an impact. It's the commercials, terrible calls, and people getting tired of seeing the Pats get everything handed to them. People act like the NFL is failing but it's still far and away the most popular sport in the country. Nothing else comes close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Yeah I’m sure Derek Carr is going to enjoy telling Marshawn Lynch he better stand “or else” I didn’t realize Carr was the only one standing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, SMC said: Funny, NBA's ratings keep on getting better and better each year case and point, the NBA is totally non political, get these clowns to stop kneelling and youll see the ratings go up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 When is the next TV contract up? Have a feeling these guy are in for a real shocker. Networks are already losing money on games. Pay the huge contract for status. TV brings in the bulk of NFL revenue. I'm really going to be smiling when the cap starts falling. That will be fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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