Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Interesting how many team have fireworks and/or dumpster fire potential (get your popcorn ready) Slow couple of weeks in JetNation so here is my list; Buccaneers - Arians, todd-kacy, Winston #1 for many reasons Cardinals - two first round QB's in two years - 5'10" QB's the new rage? Kliffy could not win in Big12 but NFL is easier? Raiders - Chucky, AB, moving to Vegas, made for hard knocks Browns - Expectations, OBJ, Mayfield - can they move forward from last year or regress? Giants - Eli and mini-me (Jones) - loss to Haskins will create frenzy in NY Media Vikings - NFCCG then pay kirk $90m and regress? even mid-western fans will lose sense of humor Steelers - King ben? after effect a year after implosion - hurt feelings remain Fins - Rosen vs Fitzmagic on a team built for the tank Texans - no GM? Edits - can Watson and Watt stay healthy? MDL_JET: can OL survive / improve? Jaguars - Is Foles the answer, contract holdouts, will it ever be their year? Bills - Josh Allen the interception machine? or can completion percentage increase in NFL Packers - Rodgers and a new coach, broken hammy Bengals - after 15 years of Marvin and they replace him with a kid, what can go wrong? Pat* - is this the final year? Jets - Coaches have fire - can it be controlled - Edits jgb Is Sam a FQB? nycdan will weak OL and CB depth hurt the season (cost Mac his job?) Broncos - last chance for Flacco with young QB waiting to step in Ravens - life after Flacco Cowboys - looming big contracts for Zek, Dak and Amari Redskins - can Gruden Jr develop Haskins? 49ers - is Jimmy healthy? will he ever be? Seahawks - Wilson now the highest paid QB but legion go boom Panthers - does Cam have weaponz? Titans - second year coach - is MM really a FQB Lions - second year coach - How long can you waste a FQB Falcons - how long can you waste a FQB Bears - do you have a FQB? Saints - Brees is older Chargers - so is Rivers Eagles - year without Foles, can Wentz stay healthy Can Rams repeat, did BB provide blueprint to beat this team? Can Chiefs repeat success, will Andy ever win the big game? Colts - Lucks best chance to date Edits to add legend, confirm not Jets bashing, and copyright "DFP rankings"; 1-10 = high potential for a dumpster fire / implosion 11-20 = some potential for drama / fireworks 21-32 = normal NFL risk / operations - added to show every team has some reason for concern but there is always a surprise What do you think? how would you rank the potential for disfunction - we know it will happen but where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 It's a big stretch to say ALL 32 teams could have dumpster fire potential. Even in your own comments you established this: 8 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: 18. Cowboys - looming big contracts for Zek, Dak and Amari 31. Can Chiefs repeat success, will Andy ever win the big game? 32. Colts - Lucks best chance to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I don't really think there will a lot of disfunction...bad yes, but not sure about drama BUT: 1. Cardinals: If Murray and the offense struggles and KK looks lost that could make for a lot drama. 2. Jets: I don't think it will BUT there's potential with Gase and Williams. You never know. 3. Texans: If that Oline doesn't improve vs a tougher schedule, things will get bad real fast for Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Potential dumpster fire teams in no particular order: Bucs Cardinals (but an interesting experiment nonetheless) Raiders Jets Browns Giants Dolphins Bills Redskins The rest have enough positive things going that their respective floors are relatively high. Obviously they're all one franchise QB injury away from dumpster fire territory, but that's pretty much always true for all 32 teams, outside of the Foles-led Eagles. At any given time there's only about 20 solid starting QB's across the league, so there's not enough to go around, and certainly aren't enough good backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindOverMatter Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Tough to say, I think the Browns, Raiders, and Giants set themselves up with pretty volatile situations. If Browns and Raiders start losing games early, things could turn sour fast. Both teams have pretty hard schedules to start the season. The Giants season will be fun to watch, I wonder how long they will torture their fanbase by sending Eli out on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Quote Main dumpster fire: Members of JN that continually look for negative things to speak and write about. Honorable Mention Dumpster Fire: Members of the media constantly bashing the NY Jets for every move they make regardless of whether or not it will or has worked or not. I realize it's June and we have nothing else to do, but honestly, JN used to mean Jets Nation, now it means JUST NEGATIVE. So sick of reading all of the crap here that is always pessimistic & / or negative. I am 57 years young and have read negative $hit about our Jets for 45 of those years now and am freaking sick of it TBH. For once it seems this organization has finally unf**ked itself and gotten things right, yet still, we have to forecast a dumpster fire because we now have some coaches that are not walking coma's. SMH, the perpetual negativity here on JN (Just Negative) blows my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Pretty much every team has issues to address every year. That does not make them "dumpster fire potential" it makes them a normal business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I thought this thread was about selling players at a discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Main dumpster fire: Members of JN that continually look for negative things to speak and write about. Honorable Mention Dumpster Fire: Members of the media constantly bashing the NY Jets for every move they make regardless of whether or not it will or has worked or not. I realize it's June and we have nothing else to do, but honestly, JN used to mean Jets Nation, now it means JUST NEGATIVE. So sick of reading all of the crap here that is always pessimistic & / or negative. I am 57 years young and have read negative $hit about our Jets for 45 of those years now and am freaking sick of it TBH. For once it seems this organization has finally unf**ked itself and gotten things right, yet still, we have to forecast a dumpster fire because we now have some coaches that are not walking coma's. SMH, the perpetual negativity here on JN (Just Negative) blows my mind. There should be a separate forum for the SOJFs so us REAL Jet fans dont have to listen to there crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Main dumpster fire: Members of JN that continually look for negative things to speak and write about. Honorable Mention Dumpster Fire: Members of the media constantly bashing the NY Jets for every move they make regardless of whether or not it will or has worked or not. I realize it's June and we have nothing else to do, but honestly, JN used to mean Jets Nation, now it means JUST NEGATIVE. So sick of reading all of the crap here that is always pessimistic & / or negative. I am 57 years young and have read negative $hit about our Jets for 45 of those years now and am freaking sick of it TBH. For once it seems this organization has finally unf**ked itself and gotten things right, yet still, we have to forecast a dumpster fire because we now have some coaches that are not walking coma's. SMH, the perpetual negativity here on JN (Just Negative) blows my mind. I think this thread is negative but in a fun way. I don't think the OP is very serious about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 It's June, perfect time to predict dumpster ? potential of all 32 teams. Basically by listing their off season moves and little more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 51 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Main dumpster fire: Members of JN that continually look for negative things to speak and write about. Honorable Mention Dumpster Fire: Members of the media constantly bashing the NY Jets for every move they make regardless of whether or not it will or has worked or not. I realize it's June and we have nothing else to do, but honestly, JN used to mean Jets Nation, now it means JUST NEGATIVE. So sick of reading all of the crap here that is always pessimistic & / or negative. I am 57 years young and have read negative $hit about our Jets for 45 of those years now and am freaking sick of it TBH. For once it seems this organization has finally unf**ked itself and gotten things right, yet still, we have to forecast a dumpster fire because we now have some coaches that are not walking coma's. SMH, the perpetual negativity here on JN (Just Negative) blows my mind. You used to be one of those SOJF's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: It's a big stretch to say ALL 32 teams could have dumpster fire potential. Even in your own comments you established this: Agree, I tried to rank the potential, with Colts having the least IMHO To your point after the midpoint (16?) there is not much potential for major implosions but it was interesting as I went through the list, almost every team has some cause for concern, we are not alone by a long shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, ASH1962 said: Main dumpster fire: Members of JN that continually look for negative things to speak and write about. Honorable Mention Dumpster Fire: Members of the media constantly bashing the NY Jets for every move they make regardless of whether or not it will or has worked or not. I realize it's June and we have nothing else to do, but honestly, JN used to mean Jets Nation, now it means JUST NEGATIVE. So sick of reading all of the crap here that is always pessimistic & / or negative. I am 57 years young and have read negative $hit about our Jets for 45 of those years now and am freaking sick of it TBH. For once it seems this organization has finally unf**ked itself and gotten things right, yet still, we have to forecast a dumpster fire because we now have some coaches that are not walking coma's. SMH, the perpetual negativity here on JN (Just Negative) blows my mind. All the media and fans' fault that the Jets haven't won a Super Bowl since the Moon Landing SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: I thought this thread was about selling players at a discount. That's "Fire Sale". Gase had a mini-fire sale this offseason. Over the next 2 offseasons it'll be a full-on roster gouging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 NEW YORK JETS ARE NO LONGER A DUMPSTER FIRE!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, ASH1962 said: Main dumpster fire: Members of JN that continually look for negative things to speak and write about. Honorable Mention Dumpster Fire: Members of the media constantly bashing the NY Jets for every move they make regardless of whether or not it will or has worked or not. I realize it's June and we have nothing else to do, but honestly, JN used to mean Jets Nation, now it means JUST NEGATIVE. So sick of reading all of the crap here that is always pessimistic & / or negative. I am 57 years young and have read negative $hit about our Jets for 45 of those years now and am freaking sick of it TBH. For once it seems this organization has finally unf**ked itself and gotten things right, yet still, we have to forecast a dumpster fire because we now have some coaches that are not walking coma's. SMH, the perpetual negativity here on JN (Just Negative) blows my mind. #Drums has it right! the point was to show that the Jets are not alone, every team has some potential disfunction, when I looked at the list I actually thought the Jets are in decent shape (positive) compared to many other team situations, Hope we can agree that we hear too much negative NY press about the Jets so this was just a little fun during the slow time before OTA Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, MDL_JET said: I don't really think there will a lot of disfunction...bad yes, but not sure about drama BUT: 1. Cardinals: If Murray and the offense struggles and KK looks lost that could make for a lot drama. 2. Jets: I don't think it will BUT there's potential with Gase and Williams. You never know. 3. Texans: If that Oline doesn't improve vs a tougher schedule, things will get bad real fast for Houston. Good point on Houston, also would like to see Watson and Watt stay healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: It's June, perfect time to predict dumpster ? potential of all 32 teams. Basically by listing their off season moves and little more I did mention it was a slow time also figure it's a good change of pace to talk about other teams issues, Jets get enough grief and look good in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, ASH1962 said: Main dumpster fire: Members of JN that continually look for negative things to speak and write about. Honorable Mention Dumpster Fire: Members of the media constantly bashing the NY Jets for every move they make regardless of whether or not it will or has worked or not. I realize it's June and we have nothing else to do, but honestly, JN used to mean Jets Nation, now it means JUST NEGATIVE. So sick of reading all of the crap here that is always pessimistic & / or negative. I am 57 years young and have read negative $hit about our Jets for 45 of those years now and am freaking sick of it TBH. For once it seems this organization has finally unf**ked itself and gotten things right, yet still, we have to forecast a dumpster fire because we now have some coaches that are not walking coma's. SMH, the perpetual negativity here on JN (Just Negative) blows my mind. The coverage didn’t make the Jets. The Jets made the coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, jgb said: The coverage didn’t make the Jets. The Jets made the coverage. wow SOJF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 There is potential for fireworks between Gase and Williams, sure, but to me the potential for catastrophic collapse falls on two things: 1) Can the OLine provide even mediocre performance on rush and pass plays or will we lead the league in 3-and-outs per drive? 2) Can the secondary stop anyone from passing all day or will we regularly be giving up 300 yard days to below average QBs. That's it for me. Either of those go the wrong way and our season is a dumpster fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, dbatesman said: wow SOJF Badges? We don’t need no stinkin’ badges. But I wear this one with pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: Interesting how many team have fireworks and/or dumpster fire potential (get your popcorn ready) Slow couple of weeks in JetNation so here is my list; Buccaneers - Arians, todd-kacy, Winston #1 for many reasons Cardinals - two first round QB's in two years - 5'10" QB's the new rage? Kliffy could not win in Big12 but NFL is easier? Raiders - Chucky, AB, moving to Vegas, made for hard knocks Browns - Expectations, OBJ, Mayfield - can they move forward from last year or regress? Giants - Eli and mini-me (Jones) - loss to Haskins will create frenzy in NY Media Vikings - NFCCG then pay kirk $90m and regress? even mid-western fans will lose sense of humor Steelers - King ben? after effect a year after implosion - hurt feelings remain Fins - Rosen vs Fitzmagic on a team built for the tank Packers - Rodgers and a new coach, broken hammy Bengals - after 15 years of Marvin and they replace him with a kid, what can go wrong? Texans - no GM? Edits from MDL_JET: can Oline improve? can Watson and Watt stay healthy ? Jaguars - Is Foles the answer, contract holdouts, will it ever be their year? Pat* - is this the final year? Jets - Coaches have fire - can it be controlled Bills - Josh Allen the interception machine? or can completion percentage increase in NFL Broncos - last chance for Flacco with young QB waiting to step in Ravens - life after Flacco Cowboys - looming big contracts for Zek, Dak and Amari Redskins - can Gruden Jr develop Haskins? 49ers - is Jimmy healthy? will he ever be? Seahawks - Wilson now the highest paid QB but legion go boom Panthers - does Cam have weaponz? Titans - second year coach - is MM really a FQB Lions - second year coach - How long can you waste a FQB Falcons - how long can you waste a FQB Bears - do you have a FQB? Saints - Brees is older Chargers - so is Rivers Eagles - year without Foles, can Wentz stay healthy Can Rams repeat, did BB provide blueprint to beat this team? Can Chiefs repeat success, will Andy ever win the big game? Colts - Lucks best chance to date What do you think? how would you rank the potential for disfunction - we know it will happen but where? Thought this was entertaining. After all it's June, and if you are on this board you must have some time to kill. If you don't like it put your own material up to read or have a chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 This is a cool thread. I think darnold regression/lack of progression is the real dumpster fire danger for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Potential dumpster fire teams in no particular order: Bucs Cardinals (but an interesting experiment nonetheless) Raiders Jets Browns Giants Dolphins Bills This is basically the list I started with before I started thinking about possibilities and adding teams (once I got past 20 I figured I would go all the way), had to consider the Jets "since this is a Jets forum" and could not start a thread that is not Jets related - LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Teams with the most pressure to win now? I'd say the Vikings (Cousins in year 2 needs to prove he's worth the $$$ and their Cap is about to blow up) and all the teams in the final year or two with their long-time franchise QBs (Steelers-Ben, Chargers-Rivers, etc.) There's a real changing of the guard happening with the QBs. You can feel it. Eli, Big Ben, Rivers, Brady and even Rodgers are in the twilight of their careers. Mahomes, Luck, Watson, Mayfield, Darnold and all these other young guys coming in are hungry to take over the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 8 hours ago, jetstream23 said: Teams with the most pressure to win now? I'd say the Vikings (Cousins in year 2 needs to prove he's worth the $$$ and their Cap is about to blow up) and all the teams in the final year or two with their long-time franchise QBs (Steelers-Ben, Chargers-Rivers, etc.) There's a real changing of the guard happening with the QBs. You can feel it. Eli, Big Ben, Rivers, Brady and even Rodgers are in the twilight of their careers. Mahomes, Luck, Watson, Mayfield, Darnold and all these other young guys coming in are hungry to take over the NFL. Agreed, the changeover rarely goes smooth I think Rivers will be ok, there does not seem to be a replacement on the roster (and he needs a SB) Brees takes a ton of cap space so that always interesting unless they are winning and baby brady is protected Eli and Ben top the list for me especially if Brown and Bell are on fire while remaining Steelers are flat - Haskins will put pressure on vagiants (still can't believe Mac could not generate trade down from that situation) Rodgers is the long shot - he seems to always have some drama and there will be scrutiny on his relationship with the new younger coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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