Everybody is building around their young QB except the Jets.

[UnitedWhofans]

Just now, ScarletKnight89 said:

Haven't we been rebuilding for years? The rebuild started with the drafting of Sam Darnold (granted we switch regimes).

The Jets had a decent core of young players coming off a 4-12 season in 2007 and went out and splurged on Damian Woody, Alan Faneca, Calvin Pace, Tony Richardson, etc and built a window to win. 

YEs but with people who absolutely failed at the draft making the rebuild neverending

Key words there

 

[Gastineau Lives]

1 minute ago, Skeptable said:

Hahaha... It fits his narrative because his team spent 4 draft picks on Diggs.

4th and 5th rounders in the draft...high rate of success?

[FidelioJet]

44 minutes ago, Daddy Wang Doodle said:

Why is this troll still allowed to be making threads?

He’s right.

[UnitedWhofans]

Just now, FidelioJet said:

He’s right.

He's right because the offseason just started

[ScarletKnight89]

1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said:

YEs but with people who absolutely failed at the draft making the rebuild neverending

Key words there

 

And if you believe in the QB (which I do), we have a decent core of young players right now with the most important position solved. I'm sure you understand how critical it is to protect the QB. I'm willing to overspend in order to do that. 

[UnitedWhofans]

 

[Skeptable]

4 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

4th and 5th rounders in the draft...high rate of success?

And a 1st... and yes good GMs use 4ths and 5ths very well...

And it also matters the amount of picks.

[Jet Nut]

8 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Not sure what that has to do with whiffing on anybody good. 

Don't you need to swing before you can whiff?

I don't get the constant talk of JD whiffing.  

 

[JetsFanatic]

9 minutes ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Not sure what that has to do with whiffing on anybody good. 

Best bargains in free agency do not happen on the first day. Good organizations usually don't win the headlines on day 1.

[UnitedWhofans]

Just now, Jet Nut said:

Don't you need to swing before you can whiff?

I don't get the constant talk of JD whiffing.  

 

He basically only whiffed on one player

Conklin was a smokescreen and Thuney never got to FA. He whiffed on Glasgow

[Jet Nut]

9 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

Hahaha... It fits his narrative because his team spent 4 draft picks on Diggs.

Dumped al those picks In a year the draft is loaded with WRs.  

[Gastineau Lives]

Just now, Jet Nut said:

Don't you need to swing before you can whiff?

I don't get the constant talk of JD whiffing.  

 

Well, if he didn't even swing, all the worse. Did he sniff? He didn't swing, but did he sniff? Do you know?

[Gastineau Lives]

1 minute ago, JetsFanatic said:

Best bargains in free agency do not happen on the first day. Good organizations usually don't win the headlines on day 1.

So nobody helped their team yesterday, you're saying. 

[Jet Nut]

1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said:

He basically only whiffed on one player

Conklin was a smokescreen and Thuney never got to FA. He whiffed on Glasgow

And even that's not really known.

He may have wanted Glasgow but not at his price.  Or Glasgow never wanted to go to NY.  Happens

[Jet Nut]

1 minute ago, Gastineau Lives said:

Well, if he didn't even swing, all the worse. Did he sniff? He didn't swing, but did he sniff? Do you know?

No it isn't.  Lets see his plan work out.  Being pissed in March because you didnt wake up to every FA available to an offense being signed isn't whiffing

I don't know if he sniffed. I don't know how he had these OL rated.  I would think as a former OL he would have opinions based a little deeper than his name is recognizable or is available for nothing more than a small fortune.

 

[genot]

Be careful what you wish for.

[FidelioJet]

9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

He's right because the offseason just started

Because we just gave $30mm to a JAG....who likely isn’t any better than what we have...while all the upgradable guys are gone.

This off season had to be about seriously upgrading the Oline and giving Darnold legitimate weapons.  That ship has already sailed in FA.  

We still have the draft but, to me, it’s pretty clear other teams are doing whatever it takes to build around their young QB’s while JD is pussyfooting around it.

It’s already clear they’re going to send Darnold out with sub par weapons and a sub par OL.

So yes, he’s right.

[UnitedWhofans]

Just now, FidelioJet said:

Because we just gave $30mm to a JAG....who likely isn’t any better than what we have...while all the upgradable guys are gone.

This off season had to be about seriously upgrading the Oline and giving Darnold legitimate weapons.  That ship has already sailed in FA.  

We still have the draft but, to me, it’s pretty clear other teams are doing whatever it takes to build around their young QB’s while JD is pussyfooting around it.

It’s already clear they’re going to send Darnold out with sub par weapons and a sub par OL.

So yes, he’s right.

Yes and mortgaging their futures to do it (Except the Cardinals and Ravens, for two different reasons)

[genot]

Ban me, scorn me, butt fumble me.  This team would be in a much better place if Chris Johnson wasn't such a weak livered puffball

[Skeptable]

5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Dumped al those picks In a year the draft is loaded with WRs.  

For WR that is a great piece when you have an accurate QB.

[FidelioJet]

1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said:

Yes and mortgaging their futures to do it (Except the Cardinals and Ravens, for two different reasons)

They’re trying to win.  Yes, let’s mortgage our future but put together a team that can compete.  I’m all for it.

We haven’t been truly competitive in over a decade by playing it safe.

last time we were competitive Tanny mortgage the future and we went to consecutive AFC Championship games.  

Mortgage the future and make a run....maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t but at least you’re trying.  Let’s try and win.

[genot]

1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said:

Yes and mortgaging their futures to do it (Except the Cardinals and Ravens, for two different reasons)

This is the NFL. The future is now. We had a team that was projected to go to the Super Bowl. What happened. Vinny ruptured his achilles. You never know what could happen to sink your season. You can't build a team through the draft alone. you have to have a make sense mixture of both.

[genot]

14 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Don't you need to swing before you can whiff?

I don't get the constant talk of JD whiffing.  

 

When Anderson, Poole, and jenkins say goodbye, then  you'll re assess this view.

[rangerous]

i'm not sure what all the fuss is about.  go things don't come quickly or easily.  sure it would've been nice if the jets could simply snap their fingers and get conklin, glasgow, thuney, etc. but at the same time the decision isn't all theirs.  the players have a say in where they go and there were other teams involved.  and maybe fant isn't an all pro but he does seem like a player who could turn out pretty well.  and let's not forget there a draft coming up and hopefully they'll emphacise oline players.  it's still only day two of free agency and the fact that there are still quite a few decent players out their means the jets will still be able to fill holes other than oline.  let's see what other players they sign before saying douglas is no better than mac (impossible).

[genot]

5 minutes ago, rangerous said:

i'm not sure what all the fuss is about.  go things don't come quickly or easily.  sure it would've been nice if the jets could simply snap their fingers and get conklin, glasgow, thuney, etc. but at the same time the decision isn't all theirs.  the players have a say in where they go and there were other teams involved.  and maybe fant isn't an all pro but he does seem like a player who could turn out pretty well.  and let's not forget there a draft coming up and hopefully they'll emphacise oline players.  it's still only day two of free agency and the fact that there are still quite a few decent players out their means the jets will still be able to fill holes other than oline.  let's see what other players they sign before saying douglas is no better than mac (impossible).

[ChickenLittle]

I  expected that the Jets would have had a hall of fame caliber OL by day two of free agency. You find the best players in free agency. You build through panic signings and overpaying players. The draft? Pfffffffft. Who builds through the draft anymore?

[Jet Nut]

47 minutes ago, genot said:

When Anderson, Poole, and jenkins say goodbye, then  you'll re assess this view.

And if they don't or are replaced with others will you?

Because you're making as whole lot of predictions off of one day of pre FA signings.  Theres a whole offseason ahead of us and you and your crystal ball are whining about what we haven't done and cant get done just because.  As others have said, signing players who you recognize by name only doesnt always translate into wins.  We have a GM who I assume has a plan and is running that plan.  Lets at least see it through before whining about so and so who you wanted and JD obviously didnt

[Jets723]

1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said:

ITS THE FIRST FRICKING DAY OF FREE AGENCY!

My God does everybody here have a place to be? 

Agreed.  Look I admit last night was a bit frustrating but it’s still a long offseason to go.  Plus we still have the draft along with free agency. 

[Guilhermezmc]

Have you ever Heard of Greg Van roten? How about philip dorsett?

[UnitedWhofans]

This whole thread is based in factual error. The Jets have begun to build around the QB. Just not at the speed that the OP wants. That's the OPs problem not the Jets.

[genot]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

And if they don't or are replaced with others will you?

Because you're making as whole lot of predictions off of one day of pre FA signings.  Theres a whole offseason ahead of us and you and your crystal ball are whining about what we haven't done and cant get done just because.  As others have said, signing players who you recognize by name only doesnt always translate into wins.  We have a GM who I assume has a plan and is running that plan.  Lets at least see it through before whining about so and so who you wanted and JD obviously didnt

It sends a bad message around the league, and to current players on the roster, that you can't resign productive players, two of whom have been with the team from out of college. Especially if you replace them with players who haven't been as productive, or college guys, who haven't proven they can play at that level in the league. It's bad for the team, and very bad optics.

[Jet Nut]

8 minutes ago, genot said:

It sends a bad message around the league, and to current players on the roster, that you can't resign productive players, two of whom have been with the team from out of college. Especially if you replace them with players who haven't been as productive, or college guys, who haven't proven they can play at that level in the league. It's bad for the team, and very bad optics.

What total nonsense.  Seriously it sends a bad message?  LOL sure it does.  Teams let players go all the time.  You know like the players who you wanted us to sign were let free to sign elsewhere.  Never mind we could still resign those players.  Or that we not only haven't let them walk if we did let someone walk their replacements aren't known yet.  

Its bad for no one at this point then a fan crying on the internet over something that hasn't happened

[Lurker89]

31 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

He's a Bills troll

Bills fan trolling on a Jets Board .... I believe that's pathetic squared. Shouldn't he be getting ready for next year's "Super Bowl Run"