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Why do many jets fans act so insecure about darnold vs Allen

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12 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

I responded to the AFC east pecking order honestly and ppl acted like little girls because another team has a good qb? Its weird

And people responded honestly.

Just because it goes against your delicate sensibilities about Josh Allen, doesnt mean you need to start a thread about it. Nor does it mean anybody was acting like little girls. 

Same goes for the Mayfieldettes.

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2 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

NFL scouts disagree with you...

You don't have facts you have feelings.  Hence the thread topic 

Want to go by NFL scouts thought process? If that's the metric, they think Darnold is far superior than Allen, they did before, during, and after the draft. 

You don't want me to get out the statistical facts to prove you wrong, I assure you. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Are dumb Bills fans this clueless?  You want to continue to talk one game to compare Watson to Allan.

 

Playoffs are a different animal and test. Why are you negating Watson's horrible 1st playoffs game?

 

Again its insecurities and not logical 

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1 minute ago, Testaverde98 said:

So tons of media and NFL scouts for 2 years saw him as potentially #1 overall in 17 and 18... they are 10?

Mel Kiper once said he'd retire if Jimmy Clausen wasn't a franchise QB.  That's who you are relying on to prove your point?

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3 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

 

Double post.

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1 minute ago, JTJet said:

Want to go by NFL scouts thought process? If that's the metric, they think Darnold is far superior than Allen, they did before, during, and after the draft. 

You don't want me to get out the statistical facts to prove you wrong, I assure you. 

 

I admitted I'd rather have darnold 

 

Thts not the topic.

 

Again pay attention because these responses are proving my point. Stop making us look soft

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2 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

So tons of media and NFL scouts for 2 years saw him as potentially #1 overall in 17 and 18... they are 10?

The same "tons of media and NFL scouts" who all had Darnold better coming into their draft?

Total BS, the overwhelming number had Darnold #1, most had Allan 3rd.  At best

 

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Just now, Mogglez said:

Mel Kiper once said he'd retire if Jimmy Clausen wasn't a franchise QB.  That's who you are relying on to prove your point?

So you must be 100% correct in order to see general trends

 

Wtf

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It's difficult to accurately assess a Quarterback who plays behind a line that allowed 52 sacks in a season.  (When the Jets won their one and only Super Bowl, the line gave up 9 sacks).  Let's give Sam a half way decent line and quality receivers and then make a judgment.  Right now, his selection in the Draft is one of the very few good things that Mike Maccagnan did.

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Just now, Jet Nut said:

The same "tons of media and NFL scouts" who all had Darnold better coming into their draft?

Total BS, the overwhelming number had Darnold #1, most had Allan 3rd.  At best

 

I ALREADY TOLD YOU I THINK DARNOLD IS BETTER...

 

you're literally proving that point about being insecure 

 

I never even asked is Allen better lol

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Just now, Testaverde98 said:

So you must be 100% correct in order to see general trends

 

Wtf

What about a large raw project who was considered inaccurate with a large arm is considered a "trend"?

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Just now, Testaverde98 said:

I admitted I'd rather have darnold 

 

Thts not the topic.

 

Again pay attention because these responses are proving my point. Stop making us look soft

Stop conflating arguments. 

Me saying Josh Allen blows and being able to prove that to you statistically, does not mean that I'm insecure about Darnold. 

It means I have two eyes, facts, and a correct opinion.

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Just now, TMAC said:

It's difficult to accurately assess a Quarterback who plays behind a line that allowed 52 sacks in a season.  (When the Jets won their one and only Super Bowl, the line gave up 9 sacks).  Let's give Sam a half way decent line and quality receivers and then make a judgment.  Right now, his selection in the Draft is one of the very few good things that Mike Maccagnan did.

The thread isnt about darnold 

The thread is why jets fans get butthurt when any other jets fans admits Allen is good or talented or had a good game 

Its ****in weird

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1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

What about a large raw project who was considered inaccurate with a large arm is considered a "trend"?

He has faults... not sure what your point is 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

So tons of media and NFL scouts for 2 years saw him as potentially #1 overall in 17 and 18... they are 10?

To be fair, these were many of the same people who said that about Geno Smith and Ryan Nassib.And back in the day Rick Mirer and Ryan Leaf.

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1 minute ago, JTJet said:

Stop conflating arguments. 

Me saying Josh Allen blows and being able to prove that to you statistically, does not mean that I'm insecure about Darnold. 

It means I have two eyes, facts, and a correct opinion.

What did you prove statistically?

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2 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

The thread isnt about darnold 

The thread is why jets fans get butthurt when any other jets fans admits Allen is good or talented or had a good game 

Its ****in weird

What's "f*ckin weird" is coming to a Jets forum to start a thread about Josh Allen because you got absolutely assmad that people thought he sucks in a thread discussing the AFC East. 

Why couldn't you leave it in that thread?

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Just now, Testaverde98 said:

What did you prove statistically?

I said before that I could if you wanted me to. Clearly you do, so hold please. 

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1 minute ago, Testaverde98 said:

He has faults... not sure what your point is 

 

 

That there isn't a "general trend" being noticed in regards to Josh Allen.

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Just now, Mogglez said:

What's "f*ckin weird" is coming to a Jets forum to start a thread about Josh Allen because you got absolutely assmad that people thought he sucks in a thread discussing the AFC East. 

Why couldn't you leave it in that thread?

Because he is a Bills fan. I believe this 100%. 

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5 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

Playoffs are a different animal and test. Why are you negating Watson's horrible 1st playoffs game?

 

Again its insecurities and not logical 

He was 11-5 in his first full NFL season.

29 of 49, 235 yards, 1-1

Horrible?  

 

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25 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

I responded to the AFC east pecking order honestly and ppl acted like little girls because another team has a good qb? Its weird

What was good about Allen in the 4th qrt of the playoff game. It looked liked he went into the lockerroom  after the third and took a bunch of qualudes

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1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

What's "f*ckin weird" is coming to a Jets forum to start a thread about Josh Allen because you got absolutely assmad that people thought he sucks in a thread discussing the AFC East. 

Why could you leave it in that thread?

I really feel our fanbase is truly effed in the head

 

It's just strange 

 

It's like tht guy at the bar constantly buy drinks and hes your friend... you love him but just shake your head

 

Thts how I feel about my jets brothers 

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6 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

I ALREADY TOLD YOU I THINK DARNOLD IS BETTER...

 

you're literally proving that point about being insecure 

 

I never even asked is Allen better lol

And why would you post this in response to me for responding to your post wrongfully claiming that tons of scouts had Allan over Darnold.  Which is total BS.

I'm not the insecure weenie who started a thread about a topic no one agrees with.

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2 minutes ago, JTJet said:

I said before that I could if you wanted me to. Clearly you do, so hold please. 

Who was the #1  rated qb on 3rd &8 or longer

Who had the highest conversion rate on 3rd and 8 or longer 

 

I'll wait

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1 minute ago, Testaverde98 said:

I really feel our fanbase is truly effed in the head

 

It's just strange 

 

It's like tht guy at the bar constantly buy drinks and hes your friend... you love him but just shake your head

 

Thts how I feel about my jets brothers 

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24 minutes ago, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Nobody wants to admit that we’re in trouble right now. Every Jets fan thought that once the Pats reign came to an end we’d be the ones to take over the division. Guess what, the Bills are already a playoff team and the Phins might just be building something. The Jets have their work cut out for them but it can be done. 

Why do the Dolphins get the "they might be building something" tag but we don't? We have a young QB who granted, has a lot to prove, but certainly looks like he can play. We finally have a GM who is working on protecting him. We have some building block players on defense. Coming off a 7 win season I don't think we're in a terrible spot. 

I didn't watch Buffalo play last year and think they were light years ahead of us. Miami still has a lot of work to do. And we'll see what happens in New England. 

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Just now, Jet Nut said:

And why would you post this in response to me for responding to your post wrongfully claiming that tons of scouts had Allan over Darnold.  Which is total BS.

I'm not the insecure weenie who started a thread about a topic no one agrees with.

I said many scouts had Allen #1... what does that have to  do with darnold 

MANY Scouts also had darnold #1

 

your response again is proving my point

 

Its weird insecurities 

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Just now, ScarletKnight89 said:

Why do the Fins get the "they might be building something" tag but we don't? We have a young QB who granted, has a lot to prove, but certainly looks like he can play. We finally have a GM who is working on protecting him. We have some building block players on defense. Coming off a 7 win season I don't think we're in a terrible spot. 

I didn't watch Buffalo play last year and think they were light years ahead of us. Miami still has a lot of work to do. And we'll see what happens in New England. 

Because gase is a psychopath like ray liotta in unlawful entry....

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2 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

I said many scouts had Allen #1... what does that have to  do with darnold 

MANY Scouts also had darnold #1

 

your response again is proving my point

 

Its weird insecurities 

Many scouts had Trubisky as head of his class.  What is your point with this?  Scouts are, more often than not, wrong when it comes to QB rankings.

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6 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

He was 11-5 in his first full NFL season.

29 of 49, 235 yards, 1-1

Horrible?  

 

What was the score

Garbage yards

 

Did you watch the game or....

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Just now, Testaverde98 said:

Because gase is a psychopath like ray liotta in unlawful entry....

Not sure what that means. Miami has an unproven Head Coach as well and Gase took his team in Miami to the playoffs in his first season. I'm not a Gase fan but the idea we can't win if he's the coach just isn't accurate in my opinion. 

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1 minute ago, Mogglez said:

Many scouts had Trubisky as head of his class.  What is your point with this?

You dont see scouting as a general trend?

 

Why wasnt darnold taken rd 7 if scouting means nothing 

 

Are u really this ...nm

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28 minutes ago, Testaverde98 said:

Did you watch watsons 1st playoff game vs indy? Allen was light years ahead...

 

Isnt this a normal phase for young QBs not named mahomes? It's just strange analysis 

 

I mean I saw him make some insane throws for his 1st playoff game but hes still way too erratic. 

 

Favre was the same his 1st few yrs

 

Asides from Allen being a foot taller I literally can’t tell Allen from Favre from their on field play. 

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