Dan Patrick:Big 10 cancels Football season

[Claymation]

On 8/11/2020 at 6:02 PM, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Yeah, given the Marlins debacle early on in surprised it's gone as well as it has.

I think the Cardinals situation has been far worse.

 

[Scott Dierking]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

@Scott Dierking

Typical

[T0mShane]

UNC was back in session for one week and produced 177 positives and sent everyone home for the semester.

[Philc1]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

UNC was back in session for one week and produced 177 positives and sent everyone home for the semester.

 

[Jetsfan80]

North Dakota State will play one game this season.  Oct 3 against Central Arkansas.  Weird.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/ndsu-s-fall-game-provides-showcase-for-top-qb-prospect

NDSU's fall game provides showcase for top QB prospect

Published: Aug 24, 2020 at 02:53 PM

 

Chase Goodbread

Original Content Writer

 

A fall season lost for North Dakota State QB Trey Lance, one of the top quarterback prospects in college football, isn't a total loss after all.

NDSU, which announced earlier this month that it would not play fall football amid the COVID-19 pandemic, has scheduled one game against Central Arkansas on Oct. 3, at home, that could prove to be Lance's final college game. Yahoo Sports first reported the news.

"Due to the challenge (of) completing a full non-conference schedule, we took a pause to consider all our options for this fall, knowing full well it could mean not having the opportunity to play," NDSU athletic director Matt Larsen stated in a release by the school on Monday. "Upon further consideration, coupled with recent information provided by the NCAA, we felt it was in the best interest of our football program to practice and play one game this fall."

Lance (6-foot-3, 226 pounds, per school measurements) has played only one full college season, a 16-0 national championship campaign in 2019 in which he dominated FCS competition as a redshirt freshman, posting a TD-to-INT ratio of 28:0 while also rushing for 1,100 yards and 14 scores. Lance will be three years removed from high school after this year, and thus allowed to file for early eligibility to enter the 2021 NFL Draft.

It's unclear whether the NFL will allow scouts to attend the game, but Larsen said he would like to accommodate any team that wishes to send personnel to the event. Regardless, tape from the contest would be heavily scrutinized by NFL clubs as Lance's only game of the year.

NFL.com analyst Daniel Jeremiah studied three game tapes of Lance from 2019 and drew comparisons to former No. 1 overall draft pick Andrew Luck, describing Lance as "off the charts" in five key areas for quarterbacks: poise, accuracy, decision-making, playmaking and toughness.

 

Follow Chase Goodbread on Twitter @ChaseGoodbread.

[TuscanyTile2]

Lose for Lance!

[jetstream23]

2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

North Dakota State will play one game this season.  Oct 3 against Central Arkansas.  Weird.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/ndsu-s-fall-game-provides-showcase-for-top-qb-prospect

NDSU's fall game provides showcase for top QB prospect

Published: Aug 24, 2020 at 02:53 PM

 

Chase Goodbread

Original Content Writer

 

A fall season lost for North Dakota State QB Trey Lance, one of the top quarterback prospects in college football, isn't a total loss after all.

NDSU, which announced earlier this month that it would not play fall football amid the COVID-19 pandemic, has scheduled one game against Central Arkansas on Oct. 3, at home, that could prove to be Lance's final college game. Yahoo Sports first reported the news.

"Due to the challenge (of) completing a full non-conference schedule, we took a pause to consider all our options for this fall, knowing full well it could mean not having the opportunity to play," NDSU athletic director Matt Larsen stated in a release by the school on Monday. "Upon further consideration, coupled with recent information provided by the NCAA, we felt it was in the best interest of our football program to practice and play one game this fall."

Lance (6-foot-3, 226 pounds, per school measurements) has played only one full college season, a 16-0 national championship campaign in 2019 in which he dominated FCS competition as a redshirt freshman, posting a TD-to-INT ratio of 28:0 while also rushing for 1,100 yards and 14 scores. Lance will be three years removed from high school after this year, and thus allowed to file for early eligibility to enter the 2021 NFL Draft.

It's unclear whether the NFL will allow scouts to attend the game, but Larsen said he would like to accommodate any team that wishes to send personnel to the event. Regardless, tape from the contest would be heavily scrutinized by NFL clubs as Lance's only game of the year.

NFL.com analyst Daniel Jeremiah studied three game tapes of Lance from 2019 and drew comparisons to former No. 1 overall draft pick Andrew Luck, describing Lance as "off the charts" in five key areas for quarterbacks: poise, accuracy, decision-making, playmaking and toughness.

 

Follow Chase Goodbread on Twitter @ChaseGoodbread.

 

Man, talk about putting all your chips to the center of the table.  Imagine the kid goes out there and lays an egg or has a "seeing ghosts" kinda game.  No chance to make up for it in a game the following week.

[Jetsfan80]

8 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

 

Man, talk about putting all your chips to the center of the table.  Imagine the kid goes out there and lays an egg or has a "seeing ghosts" kinda game.  No chance to make up for it in a game the following week.

 

And they''re not facing some creampuff opponent, either.  Central Arkansas made it to the 2nd round of the FCS playoffs in 2019, and have been to the playoffs 5 of the past 9 seasons.  

[JoJoTownsell1]

We are 1 week away from opening night for the college football season and instead of there being a wave of conferences cancelling their seasons  we see the players/coaches from the Big 10 and Pac 10/12 pretty much revolt against the decisions to cancel. 

If Army can play Middle Tennessee and Navy can play BYU it's comical that the Big 10 and Pac 10/12 decided they couldn't make it work this year. 

Either way, considering the Jets have a couple of 1st round picks it's good that there is going to be some kind of season this year. Would definitely have been tough to evaluate players with zero games being played. 

[JoJoTownsell1]

On 8/10/2020 at 11:39 AM, bitonti said:

Remember how everyone thought the Jamal Adams HAUL was awesome?

now ask yourself, what's the value of a first round pick when there's no CFB season for these players to develop? 

this is why all the teams (except NYJ) have been paying their stars - guys like CmC, Mahomes, Henry, Garrett... partly to fit in the contracts up front so when the cap reduces slightly they can keep their stars and partly because draft picks without a CFB season aren't worth what they would be in a normal year (or two) and the next few seasons will favor veterans for this reason

 

or to put it another way for all the mouth breathers out there 

Joe Burrow was a 3rd round pick at this point in the process last season

Cam Newton wasn't in the top 500 players at this point in the process in 2010

 

 

Remember how everyone thought the Jamal Adams HAUL wasn't awesome because College Football wasn't going to happen? 

[bitonti]

57 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Remember how everyone thought the Jamal Adams HAUL wasn't awesome because College Football wasn't going to happen? 

the best laid plans of mice and men 

notre dame just cancelled a game vs FAU

and they are using game film vs South Florida to contact trace the coronavirus players who they tackled etc

CFB is a mess it's a little premature to start gloating JoJo

by the way Jamal Adams is 2-0 and looking like a he's going to the SB the jets look like the worst team we've seen since Kotite 

 

[JoJoTownsell1]

11 minutes ago, bitonti said:

the best laid plans of mice and men 

notre dame just cancelled a game vs FAU

and they are using game film vs South Florida to contact trace the coronavirus players who they tackled etc

CFB is a mess it's a little premature to start gloating JoJo

by the way Jamal Adams is 2-0 and looking like a he's going to the SB the jets look like the worst team we've seen since Kotite 

 

There doesn't need to be a complete college football season for scouts to evaluate players before the draft. We are guaranteed to have each major program play 5-6-7-8 games. So that pretty much shoots down your theory. 

As for Adams being 2-0, I didn't know this was Golf. Pretty sure the Seahawks are 2-0. That's like saying the Seattle Long Snapper is 2-0. Regardless. the Jets are still better off with 2 first round picks than a highly paid safety. 

[bitonti]

9 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

There doesn't need to be a complete college football season for scouts to evaluate players before the draft. We are guaranteed to have each major program play 5-6-7-8 games. So that pretty much shoots down your theory. 

When Riggins44 and I started Draftdaddy all those years ago, it wasn't about looking at the Mark Sanchez's of the world. ESPN already did that, even back then

it was about finding the Jerry Rice types, or failing that, the Danny Woodhead's. Riggins was one of the first media people to type that dude's name into any kind of internet report, back when he was setting records at Chadron State

it's not just about the major programs. if you don't see how this CFB season is compromised compared to years past, well, we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one 

[JoJoTownsell1]

6 minutes ago, bitonti said:

When Riggins44 and I started Draftdaddy all those years ago, it wasn't about looking at the Mark Sanchez's of the world. ESPN already did that, even back then

it was about finding the Jerry Rice types, or failing that, the Danny Woodhead's. Riggins was one of the first media people to type that dude's name into any kind of internet report, back when he was setting records at Chadron State

it's not just about the major programs. if you don't see how this CFB season is compromised compared to years past, well, we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one 

All good points if we were talking about late round picks. We are not. We are talking about the extra 1st round pick we get in next years draft and you should know that 95pct of 1st round picks come from major schools (all of whom are playing 8ish games) More than enough games for a scout to evaluate. 

Either way, most small schools are playing also. Schools that produced recent 1st round picks like Wyoming (Josh Allen) and  UTSA (Marcus Davenport) are playing games this year. So i am not even sure the 3rd pick we got next year will be all that impacted by the few teams not playing this year.

 

[bitonti]

13 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

All good points if we were talking about late round picks. We are not. We are talking about the extra 1st round pick we get in next years draft and you should know that 95pct of 1st round picks come from major schools (all of whom are playing 8ish games) More than enough games for a scout to evaluate. 

Either way, most small schools are playing also. Schools that produced recent 1st round picks like Wyoming (Josh Allen) and  UTSA (Marcus Davenport) are playing games this year. So i am not even sure the 3rd pick we got next year will be all that impacted by the few teams not playing this year.

Just because these places approved the season to occur doesn't mean it will actually occur

the NFL has billions and will test their way through this mess of a season 

they will bring up replacements from the taxi squad and keep key members isolated etc 

CFB is based primarily on ticket sales and the goodwill of 19 year olds making sound decisions

there was already a death of a football player, he was the son of Steeler actually  (Cal U, Jermain Stevens) 

except for age these guys are in all the wrong categories for pre-existing conditions, especially along the line 

i.e. some of these places aren't going to get through their announced season 

you are celebrating way too early about these announcements 

Let's see how much football actually gets played, and also, the quality of that football, before we make any judgements about how this CFB season is fine 

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as for small school vs large school, Jerry Rice was a 16th pick if memory serves. There are small school guys who end up mid first or even higher and not having those guys in the pool affects the whole pool.

how many guys come from the Ivy league like Fitzpatrick and Greg Van Roten? having 40 or so programs out of 300 playing football isn't a victory 

and by the way, some of these guys who we think are good at this point in the process, we have no way of knowing if they are actually good. Like Penei Sowell will be probably good but outside of the top 5 you're drafting out of a magazine that was printed 2 years ago