jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I was planning to vote greenpeen Allow me to ask why you haven’t yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 unvote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Limited to 4x how convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: I'm Doc @jgbI said I wouldn't protect you IF I was Doc D1 during our flirting session. Once it was evident you were cop I started protecting you cause I'm not really that petty and we was just sparring for fun. A wrinkle in this game is I only ha 4x protect. I protected Barry N1 cause I thought backup cop might make a good early game target for scum but that feels like a noob mistake at this point. Tonight's NA for me will be to protect you at which point if scum kill me they'll be killing vanilla town Lurker.... unless I'm lying to them and still have more protects left in which case I'll keep protecting you. 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Oh it's a wrinkle to have 4x protect? Interesting description for a newb. Never heard of a 4x anything either. That's not to say it can't happen but why? We haven't seen any scum role come up 4x or anything x. I am very skeptical about this claim. Stark NK gets cleaned up and you come out with this right after for no good reason. Extremely common to false claim a janitor kill with confidence it can’t be countered any longer. @Lurker89 why now and why self disclose your 4x limitation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, jgb said: Allow me to ask why you haven’t yet Day play, I like to see where the chatter goes. Heck, Barry snd Arsis have largely coasted thru just voting me. This stage of the game, with scum cornered, likely trying to force something to go down swinging, patience is an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Imma watch this game and have a bourbon. See ya at half 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Oh it's a wrinkle to have 4x protect? Interesting description for a newb. Never heard of a 4x anything either. That's not to say it can't happen but why? We haven't seen any scum role come up 4x or anything x. I am very skeptical about this claim. Stark NK gets cleaned up and you come out with this right after for no good reason. I’m not saying one thing ir another about the validity of his claim, but I will say we have had limited usage powers here going back years - based on what mods think creates balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 @Lurker89 did you ever react to stark hinting protection power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 12:18 AM, Stark said: But you know that I’m not. JGB will live @Lurker89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: @Lurker89 Yes I used my look to vet the uncountered soft claim. So scum either got the real doc or fell for a ruse, as did I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Imma watch this game and have a bourbon. See ya at half Good idea. Only scotch for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I’m not saying one thing ir another about the validity of his claim, but I will say we have had limited usage powers here going back years - based on what mods think creates balance. Of course it's a thing but it's typically 1 or 2. Never seen 4. On top of that it's usually balanced with a similar limited usage on the other side of the ledger. Not trying to game the mod, speaking to balance and how things usually go. It's not impossible, obviously. The timing of it and specific limitation of one more is just awfully convenient. If we were confident scum was out of PRs we could vet it by directing NAs but I don't know if we can be confident in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Of course it's a thing but it's typically 1 or 2. Never seen 4. On top of that it's usually balanced with a similar limited usage on the other side of the ledger. Not trying to game the mod, speaking to balance and how things usually go. It's not impossible, obviously. The timing of it and specific limitation of one more is just awfully convenient. If we were confident scum was out of PRs we could vet it by directing NAs but I don't know if we can be confident in that. If scum also had 4x they almost certainly didn’t bother using N1 and probably N2 until the pool really started narrowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Oh it's a wrinkle to have 4x protect? Interesting description for a newb. Never heard of a 4x anything either. That's not to say it can't happen but why? We haven't seen any scum role come up 4x or anything x. I am very skeptical about this claim. Stark NK gets cleaned up and you come out with this right after for no good reason. I was very straightforward Barry. I breadcrumbed it D1 and tried to subtley point our cop in the direction before you called it out...even though as I typed it and sent it it felt stupidly obvious. Quit Barney Fifing this up drputy. Or should I just call you Barry Fife. I'm with the wife and kids and getting the business for continuing to try to JN Mafia and not being present. But I'm around and tryig 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just got done with church, where I get really spotty cell coverage, and still have Sunday shopping to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 40 minutes ago, jgb said: Extremely common to false claim a janitor kill with confidence it can’t be countered any longer. @Lurker89 why now and why self disclose your 4x limitation? Trying to final push the scum and get the rookie town win. There is a purpose to every part of that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: I was very straightforward Barry. I breadcrumbed it D1 and tried to subtley point our cop in the direction before you called it out...even though as I typed it and sent it it felt stupidly obvious. Quit Barney Fifing this up drputy. Or should I just call you Barry Fife. I'm with the wife and kids and getting the business for continuing to try to JN Mafia and not being present. But I'm around and tryig Why would I need to know who the doc was? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, jgb said: Why would I need to know who the doc was? If you and Barry dont see the nuance to the play I don't what to say man. If ypu think I'm scum kill me, for once I'm literally trying to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Of course it's a thing but it's typically 1 or 2. Never seen 4. On top of that it's usually balanced with a similar limited usage on the other side of the ledger. Not trying to game the mod, speaking to balance and how things usually go. It's not impossible, obviously. The timing of it and specific limitation of one more is just awfully convenient. If we were confident scum was out of PRs we could vet it by directing NAs but I don't know if we can be confident in that. Yes, convenient. No, not unheard of. I view it right now in the sane light as you being outed as deputy, then saying you didn’t even know you’re deputy, then wanting to use it as mod vetting you. It’s all stuff we’ve got to process. I don’t think we need to vet him right now, frankly. If he’s lying scum, then he just outed himself. If you and jgb are both cop/deputy, then we have enough night phases to view the field, based on loose math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: I was very straightforward Barry. I breadcrumbed it D1 and tried to subtley point our cop in the direction before you called it out...even though as I typed it and sent it it felt stupidly obvious. Quit Barney Fifing this up drputy. Or should I just call you Barry Fife. I'm with the wife and kids and getting the business for continuing to try to JN Mafia and not being present. But I'm around and tryig You spent d1 switching between self voting and voting the cop. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: @Lurker89 did you ever react to stark hinting protection power? 42 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: @Lurker89 I didn't want to touch it i knew i was protecting jgb either way .... i cant self protect and protect jgb so even touching that would have been folly and led to one of our deaths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: @Lurker89 On 1/21/2023 at 12:18 AM, Stark said: But you know that I’m not. JGB will live I'd like to think Stark would only do this to draw a NK as vanilla. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Day 4 Vote Count Greenseed (1) - Lurker With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Yes, convenient. No, not unheard of. I view it right now in the sane light as you being outed as deputy, then saying you didn’t even know you’re deputy, then wanting to use it as mod vetting you. It’s all stuff we’ve got to process. I don’t think we need to vet him right now, frankly. If he’s lying scum, then he just outed himself. If you and jgb are both cop/deputy, then we have enough night phases to view the field, based on loose math. Thing is it's probably something scum only does if they see a path to victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 See ya between quarters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, jgb said: Yes I used my look to vet the uncountered soft claim. So scum either got the real doc or fell for a ruse, as did I. I wish you’d viewed Barry by now, really. 2-3 actually confirmed town would be great. Very surprised neither he or crusher have been NKed. Scum usually doesn’t bring outed town to end gane. 10 minutes ago, jgb said: Why would I need to know who the doc was? I see this as him also being a rookie. 4 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: If you and Barry dont see the nuance to the play I don't what to say man. If ypu think I'm scum kill me, for once I'm literally trying to help. I dunno. I read this wholly as townie play. If you’re scum, then kudos to you on snookering me. I honestly want to Lynch greenis, Arsis, or barry. @The Crusher where you at? Need my sensei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: You spent d1 switching between self voting and voting the cop. ? Yeah i did. I didn't know he was cop then and made a foolish joke about not protecting him if i was doc. If you dont believe me, whatever. If i was scum my play would be to try to seem like a straightforward townie so i get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: You spent d1 switching between self voting and voting the cop. ? He didn’t know I was cop d1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I'd like to think Stark would only do this to draw a NK as vanilla. Yes, that is what I said. I’m asking lurker though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, jgb said: He didn’t know I was cop d1 It has been largely thematic with Barry that all of his casing vs me and now lurker is after-the-fact narrative. I don’t like it and cannot discern if it’s bad town play or scum trying to craft guilty optics. Removing the deputy thing, he’s my #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lurker89 said: If you and Barry dont see the nuance to the play I don't what to say man. If ypu think I'm scum kill me, for once I'm literally trying to help. Answer the question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: It has been largely thematic with Barry that all of his casing vs me and now lurker is after-the-fact narrative. I don’t like it and cannot discern if it’s bad town play or scum trying to craft guilty optics. Removing the deputy thing, he’s my #1. My guess is with the mod handover the traps didn’t make it into the on-boarding which is why we haven’t seen anymore lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: It has been largely thematic with Barry that all of his casing vs me and now lurker is after-the-fact narrative. I don’t like it and cannot discern if it’s bad town play or scum trying to craft guilty optics. Removing the deputy thing, he’s my #1. You’re barking up the wrong tree on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 *Warning* There are several traps left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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