Rich Thornburgh Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, bicketybam said: I don't believe this to be true, Phil. Do you really think Rodgers just walked up to the Jets on that Monday and said I'm off on vacation? I'd like to think you don't believe this but I'm really not so sure. You have posted constantly that Zach Wilson would be back with the Jets this year starting games. And not just once or two .You've made that claim consistently. So who knows what truly goes through that mind of yours. But I would bet my net worth that the Jets knew ahead of time about Rodgers' itinerary. Ofcourse you think all this has an innocent explanation 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 7 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Ofcourse you think all this has an innocent explanation Replace innocent with plausible and you have a winner, Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 5 hours ago, bicketybam said: Was Tony Vegas a Jets employee? I missed where Hughes doxxed him. Used to be. He got a new job at a financial analyst firm, stayed tight with people in the building, and Hughes straight up quote tweeted the “welcome to our team!” tweet they posted for him at his new job and tagged him with a “Congratulations on the new gig!” snarky little passive aggressive comment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted June 22 Popular Post Share Posted June 22 2 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Ofcourse you think all this has an innocent explanation I mean, given the amount of nonsense you have spewed across, like, 16 accounts Phil, it’s less surprising that you actually believe this bullsh*t. I can only wonder how long it will take you to get this one banned. 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 4 hours ago, bicketybam said: I'll have to reach the press conference. I didn't realize he looked stunned 😳 He didn’t. Facts and his posts are rarely in step with reality. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 26 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: He didn’t. Facts and his posts are rarely in step with reality. Pot meet kettle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted June 22 Popular Post Share Posted June 22 26 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: Pot meet kettle It always makes me 100% sure I’m dead on when you defend someone. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 16 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: It always makes me 100% sure I’m dead on when you defend someone. Hard to argue that. Complete clown but at least his avatar fits. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 5 hours ago, bicketybam said: Replace innocent with plausible and you have a winner, Phil. 3 hours ago, Mogglez said: I mean, given the amount of nonsense you have spewed across, like, 16 accounts Phil, it’s less surprising that you actually believe this bullsh*t. I can only wonder how long it will take you to get this one banned. Im sorry I ruined Zach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bicketybam Posted June 23 Popular Post Share Posted June 23 17 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Im sorry I ruined Zach Don't be a Phildo 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Will never shed a tear for a “journalist” by nature they are biased and motivated by clicks and views and therefore will say or write the most sensationalist lies possibly f em all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 No sh*t. Hughes pretty much admitted that Douglas swerved him in the draft a few years ago. He’s a mouthpiece. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 12 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Im sorry I ruined Zach Idk what this even means since everyone rational gave up on Zach a long time ago. Maybe you missed it during one of your many bans. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Dierking Posted June 23 Popular Post Share Posted June 23 46 minutes ago, Irish Jet said: No sh*t. Hughes pretty much admitted that Douglas swerved him in the draft a few years ago. He’s a mouthpiece. This has been going on as long as news outlets covered sports. You mean to tell me that a team will 'buddy" up with a beat guy and feed him some scraps that others don't get in order to further the teams agenda, in exchange for some 'news" that they will share with that beat first? Shocking. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, Irish Jet said: No sh*t. Hughes pretty much admitted that Douglas swerved him in the draft a few years ago. He’s a mouthpiece. Eh. I think Douglas wanted the lineman and Saleh told Woody he wanted Sauce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 We're still talking about this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Thank you to all the contributors in this very entertaining thread. This is good stuff for this time of year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 This is shilling 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: This is shilling He’s like 27 years old and “was around” for Idzik and Maccagnan. What the hell is he talking about? Douglas scouted Zach Wilson over Zoom. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 4 hours ago, Irish Jet said: No sh*t. Hughes pretty much admitted that Douglas swerved him in the draft a few years ago. He’s a mouthpiece. Exactly, and all teams have them. Who cares? I barely read anything the beat says without a grain of salt anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 If I had to choose in trustworthiness I'd take Florio over Hughes. The main part of the story is when he said teams have designated leakers. Which kind of means we're getting dishonest reporting. Maybe Florio is just tired of it and wants to expose it. Last season Hughes who got a lot of exposure incl on SNY was best known for trashing ZW. IMO it was a planned hit job. Even the other SNY mods who were pretty honest about the team didn't go that far on Zach. You'd think the Jets org at that time wasn't in favor of these kinds of attacks and they were attacks at that time when he was starting. Even worse than some of our Zach hating posters. Maybe now in 2024 after he's gone they have no prob with it but last season who knows? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 9 minutes ago, T0mShane said: He’s like 27 years old and “was around” for Idzik and Maccagnan. What the hell is he talking about? Douglas scouted Zach Wilson over Zoom. Listening to Lombardi again(whatever he doesn’t sugar coat things). He’s killing Douglas for being MIA again. And trading for another teams problem without any solution in mind. How is that part of a successful process 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Joe Douglas feverishly trying to trade up for a player they had to draft (no matter what) and then said player ends up falling to them anyways. Great process Joe! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: Listening to Lombardi again(whatever he doesn’t sugar coat things). He’s killing Douglas for being MIA again. And trading for another teams problem without any solution in mind. How is that part of a successful process I think it’s notable that old school personnel guys aren’t in love with Douglas’ approach. I know Jets fans are pumped about the new names on the roster, but it’s true that everyone they added had no other offers, Rodgers included. Tyron Smith took $6 mil base, Mike Williams $6 mil base. Morgan Moses is on the last year of his deal. Simpson got $6 mil AAV that the Ravens didn’t even think about matching. Hard to chase a ring in one year with a bunch of band aids on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: This is shilling Wasn’t Hughes the guy last year complaining he couldn’t buy a house in NJ despite having a pre-approved loan for $600k? It looks like he’s trying to get Woody to up his pre-approval for $1 mil 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 On 6/22/2024 at 8:59 AM, UntouchableCrew said: Florio is right, of course, but it's very rare to see a "journalist" call out a peer like this. That is exactly what I was thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think it’s notable that old school personnel guys aren’t in love with Douglas’ approach. I know Jets fans are pumped about the new names on the roster, but it’s true that everyone they added had no other offers, Rodgers included. Tyron Smith took $6 mil base, Mike Williams $6 mil base. Morgan Moses is on the last year of his deal. Simpson got $6 mil AAV that the Ravens didn’t even think about matching. Hard to chase a ring in one year with a bunch of band aids on the roster. This is true though at this point he didn't have much of a choice. This is a "win now" roster and and he's in a "win or else" seat. He put himself in that position by missing on a few key draft picks (most notably, obviously, with Zach Wilson) so it's not absolving him but I think he probably did the best in the 2024 off-season that he could have all things considered. Bombing the 2020 draft (and to a lesser extent the 2021 draft) undercut what was IMO a generally good process overall. If 2022 bombed he'd be gone already, instead the team is actually pretty good despite the miscues and now he needs to try to duct tape it all together. 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: Listening to Lombardi again(whatever he doesn’t sugar coat things). He’s killing Douglas for being MIA again. And trading for another teams problem without any solution in mind. How is that part of a successful process Lombardi is a tough listen for me because he's such a Pats knob slobber but one thing that is good about him is that unlike most in the media he says exactly what he thinks and has no issue burying people or calling things out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I think it’s notable that old school personnel guys aren’t in love with Douglas’ approach. I know Jets fans are pumped about the new names on the roster, but it’s true that everyone they added had no other offers, Rodgers included. Tyron Smith took $6 mil base, Mike Williams $6 mil base. Morgan Moses is on the last year of his deal. Simpson got $6 mil AAV that the Ravens didn’t even think about matching. Hard to chase a ring in one year with a bunch of band aids on the roster. Hard to chase a ring without a QB. They whiffed on Wilson (and many other previous QBs). So Rodgers gives them a punchers chance. What I took away from last year is even with Rodgers they weren't ready. I like the multiple flyers on vets, they won't hit on them all but these are low money moves and some will shine. Tryon Smith and a backup 1st round pick is a good combo. And I think Mike Williams in a wide receiver two role is good. He isn't going to forget how to be 6'4" and asking him to pull in 750 yards or so is very reasonable. So the ideal plan would be draft the right QB and go that way. But after failing at it 100 times in a row I totally support this approach. Especially with this defense. My two cents. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: This is true though at this point he didn't have much of a choice. This is a "win now" roster and and he's in a "win or else" seat. He put himself in that position by missing on a few key draft picks (most notably, obviously, with Zach Wilson) so it's not absolving him but I think he probably did the best in the 2024 off-season that he could have all things considered. Bombing the 2020 draft (and to a lesser extent the 2021 draft) undercut what was IMO a generally good process overall. If 2022 bombed he'd be gone already, instead the team is actually pretty good despite the miscues and now he needs to try to duct tape it all together. Lombardi is a tough listen for me because he's such a Pats knob slobber but one thing that is good about him is that unlike most in the media he says exactly what he thinks and has no issue burying people or calling things out. Douglas deserves to be called out for being invisible- especially with Rodgers no showing and trading for Reddick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Matt39 said: Douglas deserves to be called out for being invisible- especially with Rodgers no showing and trading for Reddick. Wrong. Douglas has been traveling between Japan and Peru trying to convince both players to play next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Matt39 said: Douglas deserves to be called out for being invisible- especially with Rodgers no showing and trading for Reddick. Daily press conference in June makes a lot of sense if you think about it. I want to know when they are out of Sprite in the vending machine. Where is this f'ing guy?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Douglas deserves to be called out for being invisible- especially with Rodgers no showing and trading for Reddick. I think the call out time has passed. His job is on the line. Reddick needs to "out sack" Huff because they made that weird switch. Rodgers needs to make all his nonsense worth it. If this season looks like the last few, heads are going to roll. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Douglas deserves to be called out for being invisible- especially with Rodgers no showing and trading for Reddick. TBH I don't really care one way or another. Like, is "holding him accountable" by asking "tough questions" he sidesteps or offers non-answers to going to change anything? I don't think Joe Douglas has ever given an interesting or substantive answer in an interview ever. I don't even watch his pressers anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, bicketybam said: Daily press conference in June makes a lot of sense if you think about it. I want to know when they are out of Sprite in the vending machine. Where is this f'ing guy?!!! I don’t get the purpose of carrying water for a GM with one of the worst winning percentages in league history. He let Huff leave and then traded for a player who will not report unless he gets a new contract. This is the mark of someone who’s not good at their job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Maxman said: I think the call out time has passed. His job is on the line. Reddick needs to "out sack" Huff because they made that weird switch. Rodgers needs to make all his nonsense worth it. If this season looks like the last few, heads are going to roll. They should have rolled a long time ago. There haven’t been any turned corners in 6 years. Douglas and Salehs record against the AFC East is stunningly bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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