Popular Post nyjets1969 Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 10 hours ago The last 3 games prove it this defense sucks since Saleh got fired. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet Nut Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 10 hours ago You give up 15, 20 & 22 points and you should win. Gregg hits easy FGs and we’re 2-1 or better over the last 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted 10 hours ago Author Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: You give up 15, 20 & 22 points and you should win. Gregg hits easy FGs and we’re 2-1 or better over the last 3 No the Jets got beaten by a average QB with bad OL good defenses shut down offense like this. Despite bad Kicking the Jets were up by 5 you don't allow a offense this bad to run 60 yards downfield for a TD good defenses don't allow this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago It's possible after this season that Ulbrich doesn't again get rumored interest to interview for an open HC position. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Ulbrich was calling the plays while Saleh was here Saleh listened on the headset and cheered that’s about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago 9 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Ulbrich was calling the plays while Saleh was here Saleh listened on the headset and cheered that’s about it Actually think it was other way around. The defense is terrible since they fired Saleh Ulbrich was told what to call. I hated Saleh wanted him gone but I have to admit the guy was one top Defensive minds in the game if Ulbrich was really running this defense it would not take this big of a plunge since Saleh was fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Defensive performance has been the same all year, IMO. They were not very good when Saleh was here in this season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 9 hours ago Please do not make saleh out to be some great coach, he stunk as well. This is a bland, conservative low imagination D that relies on just having the better players. Despite the gaudy 'we are top 10' yelling and leading the league in stupid meaningless advanced stats every year this D comes up small when it has had to and generates few big plays. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago I admit it Saleh wasnt a good coach but he knew defence think it was a mistake firing him. This defense gave up 25 points against the worst offense in the NFL this wouldn't happen the last time they met under Saleh. Ulbrich isn't righting the ship because he isnt a DC he is a position coach that's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago I think Saleh kept the defense sharp and motivated more than anything. Ulbrich doesn't have as much time for that anymore trying to manage A-hole and it's showing. I liked Saleh. There was issues there, but the reality is this team needed another OC and QB. Not Hackett and fraudgers. Just feel bad for the young guys at this point, hope they don't leave en masse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 5 minutes ago, nyjets1969 said: Actually think it was other way around. The defense is terrible since they fired Saleh Ulbrich was told what to call. I hated Saleh wanted him gone but I have to admit the guy was one top Defensive minds in the game if Ulbrich was really running this defense it would not take this big of a plunge since Saleh was fired. He’s not Great defensive minds are able to adapt to their players Saleh plays the same stupid Seattle scheme he was taught and never makes opponent specific adjustments 49ers were in the Super Bowl last year without him That D hasn’t missed a beat since he left and it’s a fact Ulbrich was calling plays I’m sure Saleh was involved in gameplanning but it’s not all about that right now This team has forgotten how to tackle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, Beerfish said: Please do not make saleh out to be some great coach, he stunk as well. This is a bland, conservative low imagination D that relies on just having the better players. Despite the gaudy 'we are top 10' yelling and leading the league in stupid not meaningless advanced stats every year this D comes up small when it has had to and generates few big plays. the defense was not giving up 28 points per game with saleh is the counterpoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago I won't lie. I miss Saleh. His post-game press conferences were absolutely hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Please do not make saleh out to be some great coach, he stunk as well. This is a bland, conservative low imagination D that relies on just having the better players. Despite the gaudy 'we are top 10' yelling and leading the league in stupid not meaningless advanced stats every year this D comes up small when it has had to and generates few big plays. The last really good defense this team had was when Rex was here and Jenkins was healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: He’s not 49ers were in the Super Bowl last year without him That D hasn’t missed a beat since he left and it’s a fact Ulbrich was calling plays I’m sure Saleh was involved in gameplanning but it’s not all about that right now This team has forgotten how to tackle Possibly Ulbrich has too much on his plate to also be the DC and that's the explanation for the defense going into the sh-tter. Whatever though. I'm still glad Saleh was fired. Prove to Woody that the team needs to be completely rebuilt from scratch. Unfortunately, we will win meaningless games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago The defense gave up when Saleh got fired. That is reality. When the defensive HC gets fired, but the sh*t OC is retained, it will come across as blame-shifting to the D. This is 10000% due the Rodgers and his nepotism’s driven GM overrides. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, Integrity28 said: The defense gave up when Saleh got fired. That is reality. When the defensive HC gets fired, but the sh*t OC is retained, it will come across as blame-shifting to the D. This is 10000% due the Rodgers and his nepotism’s driven GM overrides. I think they just sense the entire organization is rudderless. they are also just not that good on a personal and execution level. bottom line, sometimes yo need to execute. and maybe that's the reason you got your head coach fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Please do not make saleh out to be some great coach, he stunk as well. This is a bland, conservative low imagination D that relies on just having the better players. Despite the gaudy 'we are top 10' yelling and leading the league in stupid meaningless advanced stats every year this D comes up small when it has had to and generates few big plays. Never said Saleh was a good coach but no longer believe Ulbrich was running this defense. Saleh called the defensive plays Ulbrich relayed them in much like ReX Ryan did when he was the coach. I'm sorry that your letting your hate blind the obvious Ulbrich is not the DC if he was the Defense would not have given up 85 points in last 3 games it's horrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Vader said: I think they just sense the entire organization is rudderless. they are also just not that good on a personal and execution level. bottom line, sometimes yo need to execute. and maybe that's the reason you got your head coach fired. The argument being made is that the defense got worse after Saleh got fired. So, I don’t see how the defense got him fire by not executing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodGreen Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago It’s fine, Ulbrich said at his postgame press conference that he was going to take a hard look at everything. I feel better now. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: You give up 15, 20 & 22 points and you should win. Gregg hits easy FGs and we’re 2-1 or better over the last 3 ^^^ One of the acolytes of positivity. Jet nut found positive things in rich kotite 1-15 season. Just stop dude lmao this team was SUPER BOWL BOUND!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigB Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Saleh and Zach with smiles...cant blame us...must be Rodgers?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: The argument being made is that the defense got worse after Saleh got fired. So, I don’t see how the defense got him fire by not executing. It’s a train wreck of epic proportions perpetrated by an egomaniacal billionaire whose fault it isn’t. Bottom line? We’re ****ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: The argument being made is that the defense got worse after Saleh got fired. So, I don’t see how the defense got him fire by not executing. the defense got a lot worse. that doesn't mean they were per se executing before the HC got fired. They weren't executing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Truth Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Stop. This is just a disaster of a team, on both sides. It’s pathetic. I have nothing left and I’m spent. Only good thing is Miami, Bengals and Colts lost. Every game moving forward is a must win. They are at best a 4 to 5 win team. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Vader said: the defense got a lot worse. that doesn't mean they were per se executing before the HC got fired. They weren't executing. Riiight. I don’t even know what this means. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Our best D player this year has been jamien freakin sherwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Riiight. I don’t even know what this means. It means the players have not been executing the whole time -- both before and after the firing of Saleh. The lack of execution preceded the firing and also continued afterwards even getting worse. You know how to read, or should I say the same thing for the 4th time? The players that are supposed to perform are not performing, and have not been performing. All year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, nyjets1969 said: The last 3 games prove it this defense sucks since Saleh got fired. Ummmmmm when you have leadership like this .. No disrespect Woody doesn't know what he is doing and we can all see that the defense is falling down like a DAM ROCK!!! That is why some of us said if you fire SALEH.. HAVE A DAM PLAN!!!! GOOD GRIEF!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Will MacDonald is having the lamest, quietest 8 sack season I've ever seen. Just a complete ghost on 90% of snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Wooty Doo Doo Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 37 minutes ago, nyjets1969 said: Actually think it was other way around. The defense is terrible since they fired Saleh Ulbrich was told what to call. I hated Saleh wanted him gone but I have to admit the guy was one top Defensive minds in the game if Ulbrich was really running this defense it would not take this big of a plunge since Saleh was fired. Thats because Ulbrich is not just focused on the D anymore . Hes gotta concern himself with both sides of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: You give up 15, 20 & 22 points and you should win. Gregg hits easy FGs and we’re 2-1 or better over the last 3 We can blame zurline all we want but we’d just be a bad team with a better record. Some of these losses, if the team were more disciplined, played like a good team should, wouldn’t have come down to kicks. There was absolutely no excuse today for needing 4 points to beat this pats team. This team isn’t just bad at this point, it’s a top 3-5 pick in the draft bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, extmenace said: We can blame zurline all we want but we’d just be a bad team with a better record. Some of these losses, if the team were more disciplined, played like a good team should, wouldn’t have come down to kicks. There was absolutely no excuse today for needing 4 points to beat that team. This team isn’t just bad at this point, it’s a top 3 pick in the draft bad. wisdoms in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago It just highlights Saleh's incompetence Ulbrich / Hackett / Downing / Carter is there a worse staff this century? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, BP said: ^^^ One of the acolytes of positivity. Jet nut found positive things in rich kotite 1-15 season. Just stop dude lmao this team was SUPER BOWL BOUND!!! Yeah, that’s clearly what I said. Blaming the offense says SUPER BOWL BOUND!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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