flgreen Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Jets Place Baker, Trusnik on PUP; Oldenburg on Active/Non-Football Injury Published: 07-21-08 By Jets PR Department Regular Contributor change font email article <DIV class=article_column id=articleText style="DISPLAY: none" _extended="true"> The New York Jets announced that TE Chris Baker and LB Jason Trusnik have been placed on the Active/Physically Unable to Perform list and T Clint Oldenburg has been placed on the Active/Non-Football Injury list. The announcements were made by Jets General Manager Mike Tannenbaum. <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 i love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 So much for trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 i guess its better than the rookie dorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 This could get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 This could get ugly. he's a flippin TE getting paid more than enough for his value. I imagine this is more of a joke in the locker room then a worry. If it's not a joke, it should be. Baker is so average i can't even explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcord1786 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I f'in love Tangini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Great move by the FO. How's that big mouth working out for you Baker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 The PUP list is another word for doghouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 The PUP list is another word for doghouse. Exactly, and it's exactly where big mouthed TEs with limited performance should be. When Keller and Franks come to town, it's not the best time to run your mouth. You'll find yourself sitting 4th on the TE depth chart behind the long snapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Exactly, and it's exactly where big mouthed TEs with limited performance should be. When Keller and Franks come to town, it's not the best time to run your mouth. You'll find yourself sitting 4th on the TE depth chart behind the long snapper. the easiest way to end this hole fiasco is the offer baker his release if gives back his signing bonus and the advance he took last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 This is a direct result of Baker riding the excercycle during mini camp, and saying he was injured. Does anyone know the exact rules on PUP? Can they keep him out of camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 This is a direct result of Baker riding the excercycle during mini camp, and saying he was injured. Does anyone know the exact rules on PUP? Can they keep him out of camp? Yes, many questions. Where are the experts; please tell us what this means? Can he say, "surprise, I'm not injured anymore." What then? Off the PUP and then what? So many questions, my fingers can't type fast enough! SPERM, WHERE ARE YOU?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 This is so excellent. Slap right in the face of Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 This is a direct result of Baker riding the excercycle during mini camp, and saying he was injured. Does anyone know the exact rules on PUP? Can they keep him out of camp? Maybe he forgot the bike seat, and now has a serious anal fissure issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cant Hackett Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Found this lombardi on the NFL The Real World of Pro Football Friday, July 18, 2008 WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE NEW WEEK A couple things to expect to read and hear about when camps start next week: The PUP list. This is a list is called the ACTIVE PUP List and is used by NFL clubs to let the player know he did not pass his training camp physical and he is not allowed to start practice. Now, being on this list does not help the team add more players to camp, so the more players on this list, the less teams will have on their practice field. This list solely protects the club from accepting the contract and being held to the contract of the player because he is reporting to camp unhealthy, regardless if the injury occurred last year on the field. For example in NE, if you don't pass Bill Belichick's running test, you immediately go on this list and are under the trainers and his supervision BEFORE he will let you back on the field. In late camp, teams have three options with players on the ACTIVE PUP list; 1. Pass him on his physical 2. Put him on RESERVE PUP reserve which knocks him out for six weeks into the season before he can start practicing with the team. During a three week period, he can practice and he can be activated to the roster. 3. Release him and have no further monetary obligation. I expect teams to be very careful putting players on this list as it will reduce the numbers for camp. Players might make a day or two appearance on PUP list but clubs will need to activate them to have decent practices. The 80 man limit does affect many areas. The other news item to be prepared to read about in the coming weeks are rookie contracts and where they stand. Don't worry too much about this, most of them will be done in time for camp and all the posturing the agents do through the local papers is for effect--- there is not any substance to their threats. The top ten picks in the draft may be a little more difficult for clubs to handle, but for the most part, this should be an easy signing time in the NFL. http://www.lombardionfootball.com/2008/07/what-to-expect-in-new-week.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 It's probably not too big a deal. Maybe a little slap in the face, but no big deal. Guys on the PUP list before camp starts can be returned to active any time. Remember, they did it with JMac in '06 after he failed that test from his foot injury. He was back on the active list in under a week. They can attend meetings and rehab with the team (maybe find more reasons to fine him?), but can't practice. If a guy is placed on the PUP after camp starts then he must sit out six games (no practice) and must be activated by week 10 or he's out for the year. Chatham was on this PUP list last year and activated around mid-season. After Vilma went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yes, many questions. Where are the experts; please tell us what this means? Can he say, "surprise, I'm not injured anymore." What then? Off the PUP and then what? So many questions, my fingers can't type fast enough! SPERM, WHERE ARE YOU?!? They can take him off the PUP list whenever they want (before the rosters get reduced) because they put him on it before training camp started rather than after it started. Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) A player who fails his club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 So they can take him off, but if he's still on there - certainly by the start of the regular season - then he has to stay on there until after the Jets' 6th game (after week 7). Thanks, man. Surely they wont leave on him on there come opening day, but say they did...could they trade him while he is on the PUP list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Thanks, man. Surely they wont leave on him on there come opening day, but say they did...could they trade him while he is on the PUP list? I don't know if the Jets have to administer another physical to see if they're warranted in keeping him on the PUP list longer than they have to, or if they're just sticking it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 what took em so long to do this? I would have had him there since he took the parking spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 what took em so long to do this? I would have had him there since he took the parking spot because you can only put a player there if he fails a physical, not to screw with someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 NY Jets place Chris Baker on PUP list by Dave Hutchinson/The Star-Ledger Monday July 21, 2008, 5:31 PM Disgruntled tight end Chris Baker reported to Jets training camp over the weekend, but he won't take part in the team's first practice Thursday. The Jets placed Baker on the Active/Physically Unable to Perform list Monday but didn't announce his injury. Baker tweaked his back after the first minicamp practice in June after boycotting the team's voluntary workouts in a contract dispute. Baker, who didn't have offseason surgery and didn't appear seriously injured at minicamp, is unhappy with his contract. He blasted the team on a daily basis during minicamp and was expected to do the same during training camp and become a huge distraction. A Jets spokesman denied that the move was punitive and said Baker will be available to the media Thursday. He won't be able to practice with the team but is eligible to come off the PUP list anytime before the final 53-man roster is set next month. Baker's agent, Jonathan Feinsod, declined to comment. The Jets fined Baker $3,000 for missing a rehab assignment during minicamp. He defiantly parked his Bentley in the parking spot marked "Team President" and refused to move it. Veteran free-agent signee Bubba Franks, rookie Dustin Keller and third-year pro Jason Pociask will try to fill the void created by Baker's unavailability. If Baker, a five-year starter, starts the regular season on the PUP list, he must sit out the first six weeks. The Jets also placed linebacker Jason Trusnik on the PUP list with an undisclosed injury. Right tackle Clint Oldenburg was placed on the Active/Non-Football Injury list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 is this guy even worth this drama and nonsense? enough with the high school games and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdjet Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I agree but these 2 clowns feinsod and what's his name played Tannenbaum last year with kendall, and the Jets will not deal with it....I ask anyone here, maybe I am wrong but name a few players from a team that said they were "promised" reworked contracts and the team reneged? it seems it is these 2 clowns with the rosenhaus wannabees agents doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACHUMS Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I f'in love Tangini I COULD NOT AGREE MORE !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantyHose&Furs Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I know there are some on this board that believe Baker is an above average TE and would be sorely missed. I am not one of those people. Just like I supported our FO in the Kendall situation, the Coles situation...I now am fully behind our FO is this situation. The guy signed a contract and is acting like an immature jerk. Not exactly the type of character I want on the field or in the huddle. Good riddence...go away. Get me players that operate with class. He's lost any respect I had for him. Sit 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 great he's on pup. you guys think this is good news? I don't. i'm a baker fan, I'm a tangini fan but above it all i'm a jets fan. I would have much preferred a better outcome than hearing that the front office decided to play tit for tat. baker did dig his own grave but no one affiliated with the jets won with this outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 great he's on pup. you guys think this is good news? I don't. i'm a baker fan, I'm a tangini fan but above it all i'm a jets fan. I would have much preferred a better outcome than hearing that the front office decided to play tit for tat. baker did dig his own grave but no one affiliated with the jets won with this outcome Walking out of OTA's (or whatever it was), 5 days before the Jets entered their draft-day war room, was pretty friggin' stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I like Baker too, but he has no room to be running his mouth and making demands like he's Antonio Gates or someone. He's a decent player who is a good run blocker and average receiver. Playing games like you're a 5 time Pro-Bowler and walking out of OTAs was a brain dead move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 This is petty garbage BS. PAY HIM. He's a good player who has been underused here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I like Baker too, but he has no room to be running his mouth and making demands like he's Antonio Gates or someone. He's a decent player who is a good run blocker and average receiver. Playing games like you're a 5 time Pro-Bowler and walking out of OTAs was a brain dead move. Baker is right. The jets are treating him like crap. he's worth more than 600k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcord1786 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Baker is right. The jets are treating him like crap. he's worth more than 600k. I almost positive Baker re-negotiated his contact with the Jets and than asked the Jets for an advance of $$ and they gave it to him, thus showing a salary of $600k this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I almost positive Baker re-negotiated his contact with the Jets and than asked the Jets for an advance of $$ and they gave it to him, thus showing a salary of $600k this season. He thinks he was promised a new deal though and he probably was. Baker is a GOOD PLAYER who has been misused here. They should be making him a bigger part of the offense not screwing around with him to piss him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcord1786 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 He thinks he was promised a new deal though and he probably was. Baker is a GOOD PLAYER who has been misused here. They should be making him a bigger part of the offense not screwing around with him to piss him off. I agree that Baker is a good player and is probably under-utilized in our offense, but he should know that complaining and parking in the team presidents parking spot is not the way to get a raise or whatever he wants. The one player that should have been complaining (and with justice) would have been Kerry and he didn't complain, he waited and the Jets rewarded him, because he was GROSSLY underpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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