jetsrule128 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/11/film-room-kellen-clemens-reacts/#comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETfrmWOMBtoTOMB Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I wanna see these kids behind this line. Clemens never got a fair shake so I don't understand all the hate by some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I wanna see these kids behind this line. Clemens never got a fair shake so I don't understand all the hate by some people. Short, happy feet, and complete failure in last year's TC and preseason when he had a golden opportunity to take over this team once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Short, happy feet, and complete failure in last year's TC and preseason when he had a golden opportunity to take over this team once and for all. Agree with that BUT I still think he should get a shot with a good OL. A good OL can make an average QB good and a bad one can make a good QB look like ****. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETfrmWOMBtoTOMB Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Short, happy feet, and complete failure in last year's TC and preseason when he had a golden opportunity to take over this team once and for all. I repeat... I wanna see these kids behind this line. Clemens never got a fair shake so I don't understand all the hate by some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I repeat... I wanna see these kids behind this line. Clemens never got a fair shake so I don't understand all the hate by some people. He had a chance all ofseason behind them to prove himself... instead the JETS went after an AARP has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETfrmWOMBtoTOMB Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 He had a chance all ofseason behind them to prove himself... instead the JETS went after an AARP has been. That was a move to sell PSL's by our bonehead owner. I still wanna see this kid, I'm not saying he's gonna be great but I'm sure he can manage the game and might even be a good QB. He's better than what a lot of people think. We need to give him a big WR besides Keller. He will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 That was a move to sell PSL's by our bonehead owner. I still wanna see this kid, I'm not saying he's gonna be great but I'm sure he can manage the game and might even be a good QB. He's better than what a lot of people think. We need to give him a big WR besides Keller. He will be fine. He is short and dumps it like Chad (most likely learned it from Chad) Ratliff has poise in the pocket and has the confidence to stand in there and wait for a play to develop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 He is short and dumps it like Chad (most likely learned it from Chad) Ratliff has poise in the pocket and has the confidence to stand in there and wait for a play to develop... Dude, You are riding Ratliff's jock H-A-R-D today. Get his nuts off your chin, step back for a second and join the real world. I've never seen anyone slobber over a player due to some preseason performances the way you are with Ratliff. Clemens had just as good of a preseason in 2007, give his c0ck some love while you're down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETfrmWOMBtoTOMB Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 He is short and dumps it like Chad (most likely learned it from Chad) Ratliff has poise in the pocket and has the confidence to stand in there and wait for a play to develop... Hey, I have no problem at all with Ratliff. If he wins the job I'll be as excited as I've ever been for the start of a season, I really love his upside. But I really think Clemens gets a bum rap around here. He's better than people think he is. I really believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Short, happy feet, and complete failure in last year's TC and preseason when he had a golden opportunity to take over this team once and for all. That's the reason why I'm down on Clemens. He had the perfect opportunity to be a starter in the NFL. The Jets were practically giving him the job in a competition with Chad but Clemens seemed as if he was trying to out-CPF Chad rather than play to his strengths. Make no mistake, Clemens had a great opportunity to be an NFL starter and get a big contract but he blew it. If he had excelled last year in TC the Jets would never have pursued Favre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 That's the reason why I'm down on Clemens. He had the perfect opportunity to be a starter in the NFL. The Jets were practically giving him the job in a competition with Chad but Clemens seemed as if he was trying to out-CPF Chad rather than play to his strengths. Make no mistake, Clemens had a great opportunity to be an NFL starter and get a big contract but he blew it. If he had excelled last year in TC the Jets would never have pursued Favre. Exactly. Good QB's seize their opportunities when they get them. Clemens folded like a cheap suit last offseason, and this was with a revamped OL and heading into his 3rd year in the same offensive system. It would be one thing if Clemens has been impressive in practice and TC, but from everything I have read, he is inconsistent at best and doesn't have what it takes to be a starter in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Dude, You are riding Ratliff's jock H-A-R-D today. Get his nuts off your chin, step back for a second and join the real world. I've never seen anyone slobber over a player due to some preseason performances the way you are with Ratliff. Clemens had just as good of a preseason in 2007, give his c0ck some love while you're down there. Wow. That's gold Jerry, GOLD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Ratliff has poise in the pocket and has the confidence to stand in there and wait for a play to develop... Playing in the preseason against vanilla defenses? EY had a breakdown of Ratliff's performance in the preseason. I suggest you read it. Your man love for Ratliff is out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravejamriot Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 QBs and all players grow and develop. Let's see where he's at next season. He deserves a chance, but shouldn't be handed the job. QB competition is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets1Fan Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I wanna see these kids behind this line. Clemens never got a fair shake so I don't understand all the hate by some people. I agree 1,000%. If Ratliff performs better in pre-season, let's go with him. I think Clemens is capable of doing it, he looks like a QB and is smart in his decision making and throws harder than CHAD (for that poster out there proposing to bring back Chad......UGHHH!! Shoot yourself!). I just think our priorities need to be elsewhere, most specifically on our DEFENSE. I think we need to pursue whomever most talented with this $13 Million Cash Dumped in our laps (THANKS FAVRE!). LET"S DO IT!!!! IN REX WE BELIEVE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Kellen Clemens has had a decent opportunity to impress us and coaches. Didn't happen. He may get one more chance. He'll probably fail again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I repeat... I wanna see these kids behind this line. Clemens never got a fair shake so I don't understand all the hate by some people. Well with Favre retiring, again, you will get to see him, the other Brett, and Ainge behind center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 wow... he sounds like a lot less of a pansy then when CHad was here. Maybe Chad's estrogen was rubbing off on him too much. those who remember, last year during camp I commented on this about Kellen, Chad sounded like he wanted to win the job and anything less was a failure, Kellen sound like he was just golly gee gosh happy to be competing with such a fine, upstanding human being as Chad... There's a determination in that interview that WAS NOT present last year. Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Agree with that BUT I still think he should get a shot with a good OL. A good OL can make an average QB good and a bad one can make a good QB look like ****. BZ great just what i was hoping for.......an average qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Short, happy feet, and complete failure in last year's TC and preseason when he had a golden opportunity to take over this team once and for all. I'd be like that too with creepy Mangini staring me down, ready to chew me out in film session, maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranchiseCorner24 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 K.Clemens had half a season to show the Jets something, and he failed to do so. Clemens played worse than any Jets QB have I ever seen down the stretch in '07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Agree with that BUT I still think he should get a shot with a good OL. A good OL can make an average QB good and a bad one can make a good QB look like ****. BZ Very true. I want both kids to compete with the 1st unit. Let's see what they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShow Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 everyone keeps saying ratliff only did so great cos he was playing 3rd stringers in the preseason. He kicked arse in preseason. Oh and Clemens played against the same people. so clemens sucked against 3rd stringers! and he's better? think about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman81 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 K.Clemens had half a season to show the Jets something, and he failed to do so. Clemens played worse than any Jets QB have I ever seen down the stretch in '07. Ok let's remember he had a horrible line that year, and NO running game help. And with that being said, if McCarreins makes a damn catch against Balt. and we complete that comeback against Cleveland where our D decided not to show up, he would have gone 5-3 as a starter. I think Clemens played like most 1st year quarterbacks would have played. You act like every QB steps in and plays like a HOF in their first year. Not saying he should def. be our starter next year, but he def. deserves a chance with this line and a better running game. Be nice to get him, or Ratliff, a true #1 receiver to help out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan4hire Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 the thing i dont like about Clemens is that he doesnt do a great job of moving around in the pocket and avoiding the pass rush. Thats something that stood out to me in the preseason with Ratliff. Ratliff seemed to have an awreness and presence in the pocket during his limited time. That is something that shouldnt be underestimated and I think that is part of what a lot of Ratliff fans are excited about. I saw Clemens during the 07 preseason and I thought he looked very good, but this past preseason Ratliff stood out to me as having this "it" factor. When I say that I mean he just seemed to come up big. Its a small sample size and he was playing with and against back up players but I still came away as impressed as Ive ever been with a preseason performance by a Jets QB. At this point I just really want to see Ratliff get a shot to compete for the starting job. If he blows it then so be it, but at least we can say he had an honest chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I think it's going to become very clear this year that Clemens is not in the team's long term plans. The writing is already on the wall folks. The teams actions last year showed very little confidence in Clemens. He was a 2nd round draft pick and going into his third year in the same offensive system. The team put him in competition with a benched QB, drafted a developmental QB, and traded for Favre. This is not what a team does when they feel they already have their future QB on the roster. The team sees these players perform on a daily basis, and Clemens has done very little to establish himself. He's destined to be a career backup. He's a solid fall back option if the starter goes down, but he's not the type of player you build your team around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Dude, You are riding Ratliff's jock H-A-R-D today. Get his nuts off your chin, step back for a second and join the real world. I've never seen anyone slobber over a player due to some preseason performances the way you are with Ratliff. Clemens had just as good of a preseason in 2007, give his c0ck some love while you're down there. :rl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 great just what i was hoping for.......an average qb. You can win a championship with an average QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 he deserves a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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