afosomf Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If he's there you have to take him and put woody back to guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KudosForND Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 why did he pull out of combine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If he's there you have to take him and put woody back to guard i said this in another thread...mostly kidding though. i'd hate to see mike t. create the need for an OL that didn't need to be created just to take one in the first round when there are other positions we could have been addressing with the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 i said this in another thread...mostly kidding though. i'd hate to see mike t. create the need for an OL that didn't need to be created just to take one in the first round when there are other positions we could have been addressing with the pick. OL in the 1st round (where we pick) is cheaper than Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Do not draft this guy. Reading the internet, the views of him have been horrbile. People that have class with this guy at Alabama are saying he is really lazy, rude, and thinks the world owes him. We really don't need to waste another first round pick on a lazy player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KudosForND Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Do not draft this guy. Reading the internet, the views of him have been horrbile. People that have class with this guy at Alabama are saying he is really lazy, rude, and thinks the world owes him. We really don't need to waste another first round pick on a lazy player. if the lazy thing is true i dont want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Do not draft this guy. Reading the internet, the views of him have been horrbile. People that have class with this guy at Alabama are saying he is really lazy, rude, and thinks the world owes him. We really don't need to waste another first round pick on a lazy player. he is a stud!!!!!! you cannot pass on him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyjet69 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 he is a stud!!!!!! you cannot pass on him!!! he will no be there at 17! I don't care what the "experts" say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Do not draft this guy. Reading the internet, the views of him have been horrbile. People that have class with this guy at Alabama are saying he is really lazy, rude, and thinks the world owes him. We really don't need to waste another first round pick on a lazy player. So he sounds like 95% of all good college players, working at stripclub and night clubs I've met plenty of pro and college players and 98% were complete *******s. Strawberry (baseball), Moore (boxing), every player UM (football) and every player from the State of Florida that just signed with a team and came back home to hangout have been the worst. I have met a few that are cool but they are few and far between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 he will no be there at 17! I don't care what the "experts" say. if he gets past Jills he may slip to 17 would be steal of century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Isn't this the same guy that they reported left the combine early? If so, you guys can have him. I'm sure he'll have a grand old time with Seymour or Warren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 CECIL HURT: Andre Smith hasn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 No. Why invest a first round pick in a position that wasn't even a need a few days ago. That would just make the move of releasing Moore look even more stupid than it does now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 No. Why invest a first round pick in a position that wasn't even a need a few days ago. That would just make the move of releasing Moore look even more stupid than it does now. BAP drink another guinness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 BAP drink another guinness Wow, solid arguement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If he's there you have to take him and put woody back to guard No one on this board knows him better than you and I and right now he scares me. He's unmotivated and basically a head case, it seems, at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 i said this in another thread...mostly kidding though. i'd hate to see mike t. create the need for an OL that didn't need to be created just to take one in the first round when there are other positions we could have been addressing with the pick. Another excellent reason to avoid him. OL is fine. Leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 No one on this board knows him better than you and I and right now he scares me. He's unmotivated and basically a head case, it seems, at this point. on the field he is a dominating tackle the kid never got in trouble we saw impact without him in utah game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 BAP drink another guinness knowshon moreno would be a nice pick-up at 17 , imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 on the field he is a dominating tackle the kid never got in trouble we saw impact without him in utah game I'm in total agreement with you. The O lines performance or rather lack of it without Andre was an eye opener. What I'm saying is that the way the kids thought process is right now is scareing me. He's already cost himself a ton of money. This all started with Nick kicking him off the team before the Sugar Bowl. I still don't know why since no one at ALABAMA is talking but I'llm now try to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 so the biggest month of his life he doesn't work out at all, and blows of the combine in front of all the GM's in the NFL pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Just what the Jets need, another player with off the charts ability who does not give a **** about football. Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I got a hold of a real estate agent from Tuscaloosa I met at spring practice a few years ago. He told me that the word is that Andre had contact with agents prior to the Sugar Bowl and that's why Saban tossed him from the ALABAMA team. That's kinda what I think we all thought. After the problems we had with the Gene Jelks fiasco and being close the the NCAA death penelty BAMA's playing it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I got a hold of a real estate agent from Tuscaloosa I met at spring practice a few years ago. He told me that the word is that Andre had contact with agents prior to the Sugar Bowl and that's why Saban tossed him from the ALABAMA team. That's kinda what I think we all thought. After the problems we had with the Gene Jelks fiasco and being close the the NCAA death penelty BAMA's playing it safe. That's good to know, but the whole reason to pass on him isn't because the kid doesn't have talent. It's because he's a head case. The Jets have failed on too many 1st round draft picks. RB and DE are very deep in this draft this year. Unless something crazy happens and Crabtree falls. Take the best DE or RB. Both positions are of need in Ryan's plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 That's good to know, but the whole reason to pass on him isn't because the kid doesn't have talent. It's because he's a head case. The Jets have failed on too many 1st round draft picks. RB and DE are very deep in this draft this year. Unless something crazy happens and Crabtree falls. Take the best DE or RB. Both positions are of need in Ryan's plans. never ever draft on need If smith is on board and his rating is way ahead of others you take him this kid started as a true freshman and he is dominant, i have seen 80% of his games, trust me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 That's good to know, but the whole reason to pass on him isn't because the kid doesn't have talent. It's because he's a head case. The Jets have failed on too many 1st round draft picks. RB and DE are very deep in this draft this year. Unless something crazy happens and Crabtree falls. Take the best DE or RB. Both positions are of need in Ryan's plans. Did you read ANY of my other posts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 never ever draft on need If smith is on board and his rating is way ahead of others you take him this kid started as a true freshman and he is dominant, i have seen 80% of his games, trust me He is indeed a man/child. He can dominate like there's no tomorrow when he's in a game as you and I know. Obviously, for selfish reasons, I wish he'd stayed at ALABAMA another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'm late to the game on this thread, but I have to agree with the bama pukes here Andre Smith is not a head case, he is a stud. He probably pulled so he could "look" more fit than he was currently at the advice of his agent. Nothing different than what any other player would do. Plus with Brandon Moore being cut, the Jets could move Woody to guard and Andre to RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 No. Why invest a first round pick in a position that wasn't even a need a few days ago. That would just make the move of releasing Moore look even more stupid than it does now. Exactly. That is why releasing Moore is dumb. Maybe we are overrating him somewhat and he isn't "worth" the money he is making - who cares? To waste a 1st round pick to replace him when we have other needs (CB, WR, maybe a QB will be there at #17 that they like) is ridiculous. I doubt there is anyone on the bench that they feel comfortable can slide into his spot. Unless there is a FA, who will be as good or better than Moore, for less money, that they know they can get (that is a lot of ifs), I still say this is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Marcus McNeil part 2 How do you not take this guy, and move Woody inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Exactly. That is why releasing Moore is dumb. Maybe we are overrating him somewhat and he isn't "worth" the money he is making - who cares? To waste a 1st round pick to replace him when we have other needs (CB, WR, maybe a QB will be there at #17 that they like) is ridiculous. I doubt there is anyone on the bench that they feel comfortable can slide into his spot. Unless there is a FA, who will be as good or better than Moore, for less money, that they know they can get (that is a lot of ifs), I still say this is dumb. You're missing the genius of the move. By creating a gaping hole where there was none, the Jets can now use the pick on two different positions (RG/RT) without having to reach at CB/WR/QB being the only positions of need. So there will be more choices at positions of need at #17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 People put so much in the combine it is laughable. You want to see if Andre Smith can play in the NFL. Go look at some tape. The tape NEVER lies. I would rather though go defense or a burner at WR with the Jets first pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Marcus McNeil part 2 How do you not take this guy, and move Woody inside? i guess you can just go bap and go from there. but we didn't even need an OL until (and if they still do) moore gets released. and with the need for a qb, wr, lb, db, rb.....why create anothe rneed that you then have to fill with a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 You're missing the genius of the move. By creating a gaping hole where there was none, the Jets can now use the pick on two different positions (RG/RT) without having to reach at CB/WR/QB being the only positions of need. So there will be more choices at positions of need at #17. Ah, the old shoot your own soldiers to confuse the enemy routine. But of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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