Marshall challenges Revis & Co.

[DaBallhawk]

No he didn't. Playing better than the crap we fielded doesn't make him a legit #2.

 

Sure.

[keysersoze]

Well, he actually called Moss a "slouch", along with T.O.  He said Steve Smith and Chad Ochocinco were "competitors" and he called Andre Johnson "a beast".

 

As much as I like Revis, Prime Moss would have absolutely burnt Prime Revis.

[keysersoze]

D Revis while still a top tier cb, isn't anything like the Cb he was a couple years ago. Revis Island doesn't exist anymore( just fantasy now). How many times do rookie QB ever challenge the great Revis and get away with it .( in the past that would never happen)

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2014/09/darrelle_revis_struggles_against_derek_carr

 

Non-Prime Revis is still the best cover CB in the league by a pretty significant margin.

[Thor99]

He didn't mention Darrin Walls-- I'd take walls over all those guys except revis and cro

 

You are out of your mind.  How did I know that it would be Crazy Carl to rep that post.

 

Walls is cold garbage.

[Jetmech]

D Revis while still a top tier cb, isn't anything like the Cb he was a couple years ago. Revis Island doesn't exist anymore( just fantasy now). How many times do rookie QB ever challenge the great Revis and get away with it .( in the past that would never happen)

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2014/09/darrelle_revis_struggles_against_derek_carr

Lol.

[Charlie Brown]

The D is still better than the O and in a 'real' scrimmage with our beast dline coming hard there would be problems.  At least with this new regime the object of the game is not to crush and humiliate the offense and then wonder why it sucks once you hit the reg season like the Rex era.

 

 

Novel idea isn't it!!

[JetsRay]

D Revis while still a top tier cb, isn't anything like the Cb he was a couple years ago. Revis Island doesn't exist anymore( just fantasy now). How many times do rookie QB ever challenge the great Revis and get away with it .( in the past that would never happen)

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2014/09/darrelle_revis_struggles_against_derek_carr

 

Revis a couple of years ago had an ACL injury, at 29 he is still in the middle of his prime and will play at the HOF caliber he is as a player for at least 3-4 more years.  You're reaching.

 

Revis is a better player now because of his experience in the league, and his intelligence and savvy, and he still brings A grade ability and talent.  Revis is not the freak CB type of player, he is a multi-talented CB who beats you with his smarts and technique, not to mention intense passion for film study and knowing his opponents' every move, as well as studying and knowing the offensive tendencies of the opposing team.

 

And LOL @ you for trying to throw a bone at your rookie QB who made a play at a point in the season when Revis was still getting comfortable in the Pats scheme.  Feeble. The Pats also scrapped their initial scheme in how they deployed Revis and eventually moved towards a scheme where Revis basically controlled his side of the field.

[New York Mick]

Geno is still the QB. Jerry Sticky Rice in his prime would have a hard time looking good.

[Saul Goodman]

Sounds like they're having fun, good stuff

[Raideraholic]

Revis a couple of years ago had an ACL injury, at 29 he is still in the middle of his prime and will play at the HOF caliber he is as a player for at least 3-4 more years.  You're reaching.

 

Revis is a better player now because of his experience in the league, and his intelligence and savvy, and he still brings A grade ability and talent.  Revis is not the freak CB type of player, he is a multi-talented CB who beats you with his smarts and technique, not to mention intense passion for film study and knowing his opponents' every move, as well as studying and knowing the offensive tendencies of the opposing team.

 

And LOL @ you for trying to throw a bone at your rookie QB who made a play at a point in the season when Revis was still getting comfortable in the Pats scheme.  Feeble. The Pats also scrapped their initial scheme in how they deployed Revis and eventually moved towards a scheme where Revis basically controlled his side of the field.

First couple of points , Revis will be 30 years old in July. The fact is A cb skill can decline really fast after 30.( of course you hope that isn't the case after big contract Jets signed him too). No one knows that and only time will tell.

The Cb position is much more different than a lot of positions it's doesn't afford a season veteran any special advantages, as you either can compete physically , or you can't. ( why it isn't uncommon for older Cb's to eventually have to move to safety- Albert Lewis, Rod Woodson, and Charles Woodson to name a view).what do you think that was by choice.

Come on what scheme are you talking about as we're talking about man to man coverage cb . ( Revis picked up James Jones on important third downs- he lost majority of those battles) .

The fact is while D Revis is still a top tier Cb( 5-6 best cb's) he isn't the premier Cb in the game no longer. ( número uno) .Fact.

The main point while the Jets Cb position greatly improved from the previous year, i think jet fans are severely overrating just how good there cb's will be this year. ( A Cromartie and Buster Skrine instill that much confidence). Wasn't A Cromartie the same player who was run out of New York , the previous year.

[Dcat]

"The Raiduhs will definitely draft defense in round 1. Guaranteed."

LOL. And that's just your most recent incorrect promise. Can't take anything you ever post seriously.

[Jetmech]

First couple of points , Revis will be 30 years old in July. The fact is A cb skill can decline really fast after 30.( of course you hope that isn't the case after big contract Jets signed him too). No one knows that and only time will tell.

The Cb position is much more different than a lot of positions it's doesn't afford a season veteran any special advantages, as you either can compete physically , or you can't. ( why it isn't uncommon for older Cb's to eventually have to move to safety- Albert Lewis, Rod Woodson, and Charles Woodson to name a view).what do you think that was by choice.

Come on what scheme are you talking about as we're talking about man to man coverage cb . ( Revis picked up James Jones on important third downs- he lost majority of those battles) .

The fact is while D Revis is still a top tier Cb( 5-6 best cb's) he isn't the premier Cb in the game no longer. ( número uno) .Fact.

The main point while the Jets Cb position greatly improved from the previous year, i think jet fans are severely overrating just how good there cb's will be this year. ( A Cromartie and Buster Skrine instill that much confidence). Wasn't A Cromartie the same player who was run out of New York , the previous year.

Again Lol

[kelticwizard]

.  Wasn't A Cromartie the same player who was run out of New York , the previous year.

Injured hip 2 yrs ago, people were running right by him.  The next year in Arizona he clearly got better.

[RutgersJetFan]

First couple of points , Revis will be 30 years old in July. The fact is A cb skill can decline really fast after 30.( of course you hope that isn't the case after big contract Jets signed him too). No one knows that and only time will tell.

The Cb position is much more different than a lot of positions it's doesn't afford a season veteran any special advantages, as you either can compete physically , or you can't. ( why it isn't uncommon for older Cb's to eventually have to move to safety- Albert Lewis, Rod Woodson, and Charles Woodson to name a view).what do you think that was by choice.

 

Sweet references bro. Charles Woodson won DPOY playing cornerback when he was 33, but don't let that stop you from herping the board up with the usual derp.

[Raideraholic]

Injured hip 2 yrs ago, people were running right by him.  The next year in Arizona he clearly got better.

What great passing offense did Cromartie face in the NFC West.( teams were running teams) . You're making like Cromartie was a shutdown cb in 2014, which he clearly wasn't. Cromartie is a cb on the wrong side of 30 who relies more on his athletic ability than technique. What do you think going to happen when that athletic ability starts to slip.( why they can get out of that contract after next year)

[Raideraholic]

Sweet references bro. Charles Woodson won DPOY playing cornerback when he was 33, but don't let that stop you from herping the board up with the usual derp.

There are always exceptions. The Fact is that doesn't happen too often. Just as relevant as saying the Patriots got their franchise Qb in the sixth round. the Jet can too. You can hope that happens, but I wouldn't count on it. Seems like Revis could make smooth transition to Fs.( but your paying him elite Cb prices for next three years)

[DaBallhawk]

There are always exceptions.

 

[neckdemon]

First couple of points , Revis will be 30 years old in July. The fact is A cb skill can decline really fast after 30.( of course you hope that isn't the case after big contract Jets signed him too). No one knows that and only time will tell.

The Cb position is much more different than a lot of positions it's doesn't afford a season veteran any special advantages, as you either can compete physically , or you can't. ( why it isn't uncommon for older Cb's to eventually have to move to safety- Albert Lewis, Rod Woodson, and Charles Woodson to name a view).what do you think that was by choice.

Come on what scheme are you talking about as we're talking about man to man coverage cb . ( Revis picked up James Jones on important third downs- he lost majority of those battles) .

The fact is while D Revis is still a top tier Cb( 5-6 best cb's) he isn't the premier Cb in the game no longer. ( número uno) .Fact.

The main point while the Jets Cb position greatly improved from the previous year, i think jet fans are severely overrating just how good there cb's will be this year. ( A Cromartie and Buster Skrine instill that much confidence). Wasn't A Cromartie the same player who was run out of New York , the previous year.

 

 

reading your crap i was at first wondering why you keep you around here. it's obvious you are an idiot and you talk our of your ass. then i just figured we do it because it's good to be reminded how stupid some raiders fans really are.

[kelticwizard]

What great passing offense did Cromartie face in the NFC West.( teams were running teams) . You're making like Cromartie was a shutdown cb in 2014, which he clearly wasn't. Cromartie is a cb on the wrong side of 30 who relies more on his athletic ability than technique. What do you think going to happen when that athletic ability starts to slip.( why they can get out of that contract after next year)

 

Cromartie was rated 13th in cornerbacks according to Advanced Football Analytics.  Considering that there are between 64 and 96 starting cornerbacks in the NFL, that's pretty good for a #2 cornerback.

http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/defensive-players/cornerbacks

[jgb]

Revis hasnt had a true stud WR to face off against in practice ever--maybe vjax but that was a rehab year. This could be very good for him to get even better. He wont back down from the challenge--he will absolutely use it to get better and will elevate Marshall and the whole secondary. Mercenary--yes. Consummate pro--also yes.

[Long Island Leprechaun]

What great passing offense did Cromartie face in the NFC West.( teams were running teams) . You're making like Cromartie was a shutdown cb in 2014, which he clearly wasn't. Cromartie is a cb on the wrong side of 30 who relies more on his athletic ability than technique. What do you think going to happen when that athletic ability starts to slip.( why they can get out of that contract after next year)

More dopiness from the midget. I took a look, and the Cardinals played the Eagles, Broncos, Cowboys, Lions, and.... yes... the Raiders. Cromartie was torched along with the whole secondary against the Broncos -- but he was excellent against the Eagles and they shut down the rest, including a pretty complete destruction of the amazing Raiders. Cromartie will be playing in a secondary that will have an even better front seven than the Cards and he'll have Revis on the other side and Pryor playing in position. The argument from numerical age is really silly. Let's see what he has in the tank physically -- Cromartie was always an athletic freak. Healthy, he should be absolutely competitive.

[Raideraholic]

More dopiness from the midget. I took a look, and the Cardinals played the Eagles, Broncos, Cowboys, Lions, and.... yes... the Raiders. Cromartie was torched along with the whole secondary against the Broncos -- but he was excellent against the Eagles and they shut down the rest, including a pretty complete destruction of the amazing Raiders. Cromartie will be playing in a secondary that will have an even better front seven than the Cards and he'll have Revis on the other side and Pryor playing in position. The argument from numerical age is really silly. Let's see what he has in the tank physically -- Cromartie was always an athletic freak. Healthy, he should be absolutely competitive.

The Cardinals didn't face top passing offense in their division. Let's See ( 49ers were 30th passing offense- Twice) ,Chiefs(29) , Seattle ( (27- twice , Raiders 26' and Rams(23- twice). looking at that stat, and it illustrates the NFC West was more a run offense division, than a passing offense. ( Correct what I said,

Next the Cowboys were the number 2 team in rushing.( although they have passing game, they still ran the ball majority of the time- who can blame them with that offense line they had. TheCardinals got the Giants very early when they were struggling and Odell Beckum Jr didn't emerge yet in that offense.

Antonio Cromartie has never put two good years back to back in his career- a fact. Cromartie and Buster Skrine aren't scaring any offensive coordinators.( both can be beat regularly)

[Raideraholic]

Cromartie was rated 13th in cornerbacks according to Advanced Football Analytics.  Considering that there are between 64 and 96 starting cornerbacks in the NFL, that's pretty good for a #2 cornerback.

http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/defensive-players/cornerbacks

Yes and I can show you ProFootball focus rankings , and they don't put Antonio Cromartie or Buster Skrine very high on their Cb list. so I guess it how they interpret these stats.

[Dcat]

Yes and I can show you ProFootball focus rankings , and they don't put Antonio Cromartie or Buster Skrine very high on their Cb list. so I guess it how they interpret these stats.

 

LOL... you would be a PFF fan.  Makes perfect sense and is consistent with your constantly being wrong.  Raiduhs fans are a funny lot.

[Long Island Leprechaun]

The Cardinals didn't face top passing offense in their division. Let's See ( 49ers were 30th passing offense- Twice) ,Chiefs(29) , Seattle ( (27- twice , Raiders 26' and Rams(23- twice). looking at that stat, and it illustrates the NFC West was more a run offense division, than a passing offense. ( Correct what I said,

Next the Cowboys were the number 2 team in rushing.( although they have passing game, they still ran the ball majority of the time- who can blame them with that offense line they had. TheCardinals got the Giants very early when they were struggling and Odell Beckum Jr didn't emerge yet in that offense.

Antonio Cromartie has never put two good years back to back in his career- a fact. Cromartie and Buster Skrine aren't scaring any offensive coordinators.( both can be beat regularly)

Yeah, Dez Bryant and Witten don't count. The Broncos don't count. The Eagles don't count. And I thought the Raiders were an amazing team offensively - they just didn't show it by their record or their performance. We'll see how it shakes out. I'm betting that Cromartie will be a solid, quality player this year. Let's see who's right...