Kleckineau Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 47 minutes ago, The Crusher said: It has if we are talking Super Bowl. Right you are plus if he ever did he might hurt somebody trying to lift the trophy with those shirley temple hands of his. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: Right you are plus if he ever did he might hurt somebody trying to lift the trophy with those shirley temple hands of his. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 44 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Ok a challenge: somebody post me a highlight reel of any qb that is as exciting as mahomes. Any qb that ever played the game. just for sh*tz n giggles New challenge: Exciting youtube highlight reels aren't how you scout a QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 16 minutes ago, Mecca said: New challenge: Exciting youtube highlight reels aren't how you scout a QB Hackenberg didnt have any excitement reelz. Maybe Macc should take a peek? ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, Mecca said: New challenge: Exciting youtube highlight reels aren't how you scout a QB Im not a scout. Neither are you. Find me a better highlight reel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: Ok a challenge: somebody post me a highlight reel of any qb that is as exciting as mahomes. Any qb that ever played the game. just for sh*tz n giggles There's a ton but I'll just go with the most exciting college QB ever for as you say, sh*tz and giggles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 16 hours ago, HighPitch said: He has the look of a leader, a champion. None of those other guys have that. Deshaun Watson. Took Bama to the limit one year and beat them the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: Another thing he does well: he doesnt just focus on one guy, he scans the field and finds whos open. who knows if he will be able to read defenses well, thats a fair point. But if he can, wow. But even if not, he'll put the ball where it needs to be for his guys to make a play. and it will be a bullet. Hard to defend that kind of ability. Not sure where the "inaccuracy" comments are coming from It's the Big 12, everyone is open. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, JiF said: It's the Big 12, everyone is open. Come see a Sophmore Mahomes play against the 2nd best defense in college football the last 2 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 nothing for nothing but the kid is one goofy looking mf (cut your hair or something kid) if the Jets drafted him and things went bad do you know what kind of photo ops that would give them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Come see a Sophmore Mahomes play against the 2nd best defense in college football the last 2 years. I referenced this game earlier. I was excited to see that Offense vs. a real D....and they smoked Texas Tech 56-28. Mahomes barely completed 50% of his passes and was sacked like 7 times. I wouldnt call that a great example of him showing up vs.a real D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Come see a Sophmore Mahomes play against the 2nd best defense in college football the last 2 years. his O-line didn't help him much and quite a few drops on very well placed passes. DRAFT MAHOMES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, JiF said: I referenced this game earlier. I was excited to see that Offense vs. a real D....and they smoked Texas Tech 56-28. Mahomes barely completed 50% of his passes and was sacked like 7 times. I wouldnt call that a great example of him showing up vs.a real D. Really? The game was 21-20 with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter, Texas Tech has ZERO NFL caliber players on offense besides Mahomes, and that LSU D has what 8 future NFL starters? The minute he got the snap there was a defender in his face, half of his incompletions were throwing the ball away, something he is supposed to do, I think LSU ran for like 400 yards in this game the Tech D is an embarrassment. Mahomes looked the part of an NFL stud if you actually WATCH the game not just look at his final stat line from the box score. Here is a condensed version with just the plays cutting the watch time in half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: Im not a scout. Neither are you. Find me a better highlight reel I might not be a scout, but I have been paid to write about the draft before JI bought Scout.com. Scouting is a lot more complex than exciting highlight reels, I'll post my old draft reports when I get home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: Really? The game was 21-20 with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter, Texas Tech has ZERO NFL caliber players on offense besides Mahomes, and that LSU D has what 8 future NFL starters? The minute he got the snap there was a defender in his face, half of his incompletions were throwing the ball away, something he is supposed to do, I think LSU ran for like 400 yards in this game the Tech D is an embarrassment. Mahomes looked the part of an NFL stud if you actually WATCH the game not just look at his final stat line from the box score. Here is a condensed version with just the plays cutting the watch time in half. I just told you I watched the game. I remember it well. He struggled. He wasnt good on 3rd downs, he missed a few throws and had a few dropped INT's. A lot of passes broken up too. His OL didnt help him but he creates a lot of unnecessary pressure. He wants to escape, what he does after is truly impressive at times but again, you're not getting away with that in the NFL. It was his one time vs. a real D and while he put up impressive #'s, if you actually WATCH the game, he was underwhelming sans a couple of those Houdini like escapes and bullets down field. Meanwhile, they got their doors blown off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, JiF said: I just told you I watched the game. I remember it well. He struggled. He wasnt good on 3rd downs, he missed a few throws and had a few dropped INT's. A lot of passes broken up too. His OL didnt help him but he creates a lot of unnecessary pressure. He wants to escape, what he does after is truly impressive at times but again, you're not getting away with that in the NFL. It was his one time vs. a real D and while he put up impressive #'s, if you actually WATCH the game, he was underwhelming sans a couple of those Houdini like escapes and bullets down field. Meanwhile, they got their doors blown off. Those Houdini like escapes don't work in the pros. That's why I said he had some Manziel in him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mecca said: Those Houdini like escapes don't work in the pros. That's why I said he had some Manziel in him. 100%. He's got a few plays on their where he legit turns his back to the LOS. Try that in the NFL, see what happens. It's one thing if you see a lot of NFL style throws from the pocket and he's got a couple of those sprinkled in, but when damn near his entire career is based on those types of plays...that's scary. I just think he's going to take a ton of work. I'm not saying he cant overcome it but I've got my doubts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, JiF said: I just told you I watched the game. I remember it well. He struggled. He wasnt good on 3rd downs, he missed a few throws and had a few dropped INT's. A lot of passes broken up too. His OL didnt help him but he creates a lot of unnecessary pressure. He wants to escape, what he does after is truly impressive at times but again, you're not getting away with that in the NFL. It was his one time vs. a real D and while he put up impressive #'s, if you actually WATCH the game, he was underwhelming sans a couple of those Houdini like escapes and bullets down field. Meanwhile, they got their doors blown off. We watched different games then. His 3 TD passes were all from the pocket, including a Aaron Rodgers esque draw them offsides and hit the deep bomb for a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, JiF said: 100%. He's got a few plays on their where he legit turns his back to the LOS. Try that in the NFL, see what happens. It's one thing if you see a lot of NFL style throws from the pocket and he's got a couple of those sprinkled in, but when damn near his entire career is based on those types of plays...that's scary. I just think he's going to take a ton of work. I'm not saying he cant overcome it but I've got my doubts. Yeah, he's a FUN prospect more than anything. Ideal size/arm talent/athleticism, but needs to sit a year at least with a QB savy HC. That's why Arizona and KC make so much sense for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 28 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: We watched different games then. His 3 TD passes were all from the pocket, including a Aaron Rodgers esque draw them offsides and hit the deep bomb for a TD. Cool. Agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 hours ago, JiF said: There's a ton but I'll just go with the most exciting college QB ever for as you say, sh*tz and giggles. Pretty good. But not nearly as impressive as mahomes. Seriously! no doubt he could scramble and avoid tackles for long foot yardage but mahomes has 75% of that down plus the rocket arm that puts the ball only where his receiver can snag it even if they are being covered. thanks though. Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 20 hours ago, HighPitch said: I've watched every YouTube reel on him and what's the issue here? hes got a cannon arm he finds open guys he hits in stride he scrambles hes fearless he makes touchdowns out of blown plays open your friggin eyes byatches! This kid is going to be super special. Stop parroting so called experts....... that is all Because every time someone says "Pat Mahomes" I think of "Pat McGroin" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Pretty good. But not nearly as impressive as mahomes. Seriously! no doubt he could scramble and avoid tackles for long foot yardage but mahomes has 75% of that down plus the rocket arm that puts the ball only where his receiver can snag it even if they are being covered. thanks though. Anyone else? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Come see a Sophmore Mahomes play against the 2nd best defense in college football the last 2 years. Wow. He was harassed all night constantly on the run making guys miss and throwing for long gains in every direction imaginable..... unreal thanks for sharing kinda looks farvesque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 37 minutes ago, JiF said: Maybe you should watch it too honey. It was a highlight reel of his runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Highlight reels are the tinder profiles of scouting 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 The guy's line is waaay overmatched in that game. He manages to pull off some good stuff, but the guy is 3rd/4th round type of player. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 4 hours ago, the Claw said: The guy's line is waaay overmatched in that game. He manages to pull off some good stuff, but the guy is 3rd/4th round type of player. Sorry. Sadly your mistaken! He will be gone tomorrow night which BTW is 1st round! Sorry! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 On 4/25/2017 at 10:19 PM, HighPitch said: Ok but that's Manziel. He's also a druggie. again, just because manziel didn't make it doesn't mean a similar guy couldnt Reading that while seeing your profile pic made me smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComfortablyNumb Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 this is more in line with what I see. Does he need to work on his drops, and depth in his drops, YES... he will have minor things to adjust physically that don't effect his arm or throwing motion. Does he need to learn the pro game, YES, just like every other QB in this draft and most drafts. People are mentioning his level of competition, sure its not preferable, but a lot of people were on the Wentz bandwagon and look at his level of competition, plus Wentz missed a bunch of games. People are trying to find all the reasons not to draft a QB, whether its Watson or Mahomes, Trubisky, or any QB in any year. Does he posses all the physical tools and abilities? YES. Is he teachable? Seems to be from what I have seen and read about him. This is a kid I would absolutely be willing to draft. However, every time I like or want us to draft a QB we don't so I am prepared to not have Mahomes be a JET. Look at his LSU game in 2015 as a Soph to get a good idea vs a top level defense. He made plays all over the place. Unreal. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 On 4/25/2017 at 8:18 PM, joewilly12 said: The New York Jets still have one big question mark when it comes to their quarterback situation. Heading into the 2017 NFL Draft, Patrick Mahomes could be the answer they’re looking for in the future. Quarterback Patrick Mahomes out of Texas Tech could be a real steal in the 2017 NFL Draft. The big question, however, for the New York Jets, comes down to if he has what it takes to be a solid option in the future? The Jets still don’t have an established franchise quarterback as it’s best they keep drafting more until one is eventually revealed. The Jets have had a frustrating time in finding a true starting quarterback. That’s why it makes sense for them to consider taking a chance with Mahomes. At 6’2″ and weighing in at 230 pounds, he kind of looks like Ben Roethlisberger in size with the throwing abilities of Matthew Stafford. Mahomes has a very strong arm when he is in the pocket or on the run. Draft him.. seriously... Mahomes needs to be a JETS player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 My prediction for Mahomes if he gets drafted by the Jets He will get pummelled and beatin into submission and quickly and be out of football in 4 years try out for the Mets as a pitcher in minor league for a while until he finally concedes to the cruel harsh realities of a 40 hr week job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Great old AP photo: Patrick Mahomes, age 5, shagging flies in BP during 2000 World Series. Unique road to NFL Draft. usatoday.com/story/sports/n… Kid was born to be a Superstar in NY! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 The disgusting $65 Zellagabetsky ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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