BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Thats how super bowls are won. Damn it. Seriously big deal, im all for bounties, take player out of the game this isnt "tag", people have pads on. I like the idea where aggression and hitting hard is welcome. And if you dont, go back to canada or whatever stupid county you come from cause this is 'merica and we real football... BAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I like that idea, 20k for whoever knocks Sanchez out of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I like that idea, 20k for whoever knocks Sanchez out of the game. I think the Jets were doing that. Hunter & Ferguson gave it a home run try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Bounties for legal hits...say knocking the wind out of a player. Or, getting a sack/interception...that's cool. Or anything illegal done to Tom Brady is okay. But otherwise, bounties for dirty plays that purposely violate the safety sanctions of the NFL are immoral and I'm glad our team isn't caught up in that. Can you imagine the sh*t-storm that would surround Rex, if his big-mouth started losing us draft picks. We would be the Penn State of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Can you imagine the sh*t-storm that would surround Rex, if his big-mouth started losing us draft picks. We would be the Penn State of the NFL. Child molester, hit bounty not quite on the same page or even in the same book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I think the Jets were doing that. Hunter & Ferguson gave it a home run try. ba-zingggg! good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Child molester, hit bounty not quite on the same page or even in the same book. Don't get me started...that's not where I was going. I meant in terms of attracting FAs/new recruits. The Jets seem to: 1. Constantly ask for restructures. 2. Dishonor their long-term contracts. 3. Try to wiggle out of gauranteed monies. 4. Release the vets, sign up turds 5. Have a dishevled lockerroom. 5. Have a big-mouth coach who puts added pressure on the team. Can you imagine if we were caught up in a scandal, and started losing draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Don't get me started...that's not where I was going. I meant in terms of attracting FAs/new recruits. The Jets seem to: 1. Constantly ask for restructures. 2. Dishonor their long-term contracts. 3. Try to wiggle out of gauranteed monies. 4. Release the vets, sign up turds 5. Have a dishevled lockerroom. 5. Have a big-mouth coach who puts added pressure on the team. Can you imagine if we were caught up in a scandal, and started losing draft picks. 1) Players love restructures, Gives them either more guaranteed money, or more money up front I have no idea what you are talking about in 2 or 3. Do you have some examples? 4) With the exception of Lowery all the released vets were good moves last year. No body in the league wanted Braylon last year. Smith was way over paid, Shaunn was done. 5 & 5 are probably accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Don't get me started...that's not where I was going. I meant in terms of attracting FAs/new recruits. The Jets seem to: 1. Constantly ask for restructures. 2. Dishonor their long-term contracts. 3. Try to wiggle out of gauranteed monies. 4. Release the vets, sign up turds 5. Have a dishevled lockerroom. 5. Have a big-mouth coach who puts added pressure on the team. Can you imagine if we were caught up in a scandal, and started losing draft picks. 2 and 3 are not true. Where did they dishonor terms of a contract? When have they ever not paid money owed/guaranteed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen Jet Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Thats how super bowls are won. Damn it. Seriously big deal, im all for bounties, take player out of the game this isnt "tag", people have pads on. I like the idea where aggression and hitting hard is welcome. And if you dont, go back to canada or whatever stupid county you come from cause this is 'merica and we real football... BAM This entire post and the premise of this thread is ridiculous... I am thankful that this isn't another thread reporting BS Jets news though, so it is an improvement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 1) Players love restructures, Gives them either more guaranteed money, or more money up front I have no idea what you are talking about in 2 or 3. Do you have some examples? 4) With the exception of Lowery all the released vets were good moves last year. No body in the league wanted Braylon last year. Smith was way over paid, Shaunn was done. 5 & 5 are probably accurate It bummed me out to see the Jets release some "good" guys in the past years (Leon Washington, Brad Smith, Jericho Cotchery) replacing them with McKnight, Plaxico and Mason. Talent notwithstanding and despite injury concerns, I understand the McKnight for Leon. But letting go of Smith and Cotch when they've been here for so long...swing and a miss. I'm not going to debate Ellis because his play fell off pretty significantly, but he was one of my favorite Jets. 2 and 3 are not true. Where did they dishonor terms of a contract? When have they ever not paid money owed/guaranteed? I can do my best, though I'm not really a numbers guy so perhaps I have my facts wrong...and my memory isn't what it used to be. The way I see it they sign a guy for a long-term contract. To make room for some new blood, they will encourage a restructured salary which includes a bonus of some sort ("signing" or easy to reach incentives like "workout" or "weight"). That's fine. But Tanny has been doing this new thing where the player takes a lower salary this year...for more guaranteed money next year. But then when the next year comes, they say, we're going to cut you unless you take less money...or, you can orchestrate your own trade. see: Laverneaus Coles, Bart Scott, and some lineman (who's name I'm forgetting). What happens is the player can either quit football and take the Gauranteed money...or restructure their salary again, thereby making less then the money they were gauanteed. I'm sure it's the business side of football. But to me it's not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 It bummed me out to see the Jets release some "good" guys in the past years (Leon Washington, Brad Smith, Jericho Cotchery) replacing them with McKnight, Plaxico and Mason. Talent notwithstanding and despite injury concerns, I understand the McKnight for Leon. But letting go of Smith and Cotch when they've been here for so long...swing and a miss. I'm not going to debate Ellis because his play fell off pretty significantly, but he was one of my favorite Jets. I can do my best, though I'm not really a numbers guy so perhaps I have my facts wrong...and my memory isn't what it used to be. The way I see it they sign a guy for a long-term contract. To make room for some new blood, they will encourage a restructured salary which includes a bonus of some sort ("signing" or easy to reach incentives like "workout" or "weight"). That's fine. But Tanny has been doing this new thing where the player takes a lower salary this year...for more guaranteed money next year. But then when the next year comes, they say, we're going to cut you unless you take less money...or, you can orchestrate your own trade. see: Laverneaus Coles, Bart Scott, and some lineman (who's name I'm forgetting). What happens is the player can either quit football and take the Gauranteed money...or restructure their salary again, thereby making less then the money they were gauanteed. I'm sure it's the business side of football. But to me it's not right. The Jets did not release Leon Washington. He was a RFA (not under a long-term deal) and they traded him for a pick while he was still recovering from a compound leg fracture. I think he was walking not running at the time. Great trade. He has been a total zero as a RB since then. The Jets did not release Brad Smith. The Bills signed him to an idiotic contract far greater than his value. It would have been asinine to match or beat their offer. The Jets released Cotchery only after he requested to be released. His discontent stemmed from the Jets demoting him, basically feeling he was not worthy of a starting role. This sentiment was shared by all 31 other teams and he eventually signed on for peanuts to be the Steelers' 4th string WR. Ellis was not released. The Jets gave him a long-term deal and he played out that entire contract. The Pats offered him $4M or $5M for 2011. The Jets appropriately did not match. Coles was one of the most despicable players in team history with respect to contracts. Just a miserable prick. Scott is getting guaranteed money in 2012 in exchange for considerations in 2011. The Jets did not break new ground here. Frankly the worst part about it is he isn't worth half what he's guaranteed this season. The Jets have made some real bonehead moves, I seriously have no idea what you're talking about with these players. The only one they released was due to the player's own request. And that player sucked overall the prior season, dropping like 20% of the passes thrown his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 The Jets did not release Leon Washington. He was a RFA (not under a long-term deal) and they traded him for a pick while he was still recovering from a compound leg fracture. I think he was walking not running at the time. Great trade. He has been a total zero as a RB since then. The Jets did not release Brad Smith. The Bills signed him to an idiotic contract far greater than his value. It would have been asinine to match or beat their offer. The Jets released Cotchery only after he requested to be released. His discontent stemmed from the Jets demoting him, basically feeling he was not worthy of a starting role. This sentiment was shared by all 31 other teams and he eventually signed on for peanuts to be the Steelers' 4th string WR. Ellis was not released. The Jets gave him a long-term deal and he played out that entire contract. The Pats offered him $4M or $5M for 2011. The Jets appropriately did not match. The Jets have made some real bonehead moves, I seriously have no idea what you're talking about with these players. The only one they released was due to the player's own request. And that player sucked overall the prior season, dropping like 20% of the passes thrown his way. gosh. Glad I didn't mention Thomas Jones. The point I so aptly failed to make is that the culture of the lockerroom has shifted...and it seems to have stemmed from trading our loyal players for rent-for-hire types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 gosh. Glad I didn't mention Thomas Jones. The point I so aptly failed to make is that the culture of the lockerroom has shifted...and it seems to have stemmed from trading our loyal players for rent-for-hire types. This is the 2012 NFL. There are no longer "loyal" players, or loyalty to players. it's all about the money, and winning and losing. That's really how it should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 The Jets did not release Leon Washington. He was a RFA (not under a long-term deal) and they traded him for a pick while he was still recovering from a compound leg fracture. I think he was walking not running at the time. Great trade. He has been a total zero as a RB since then. The Jets did not release Brad Smith. The Bills signed him to an idiotic contract far greater than his value. It would have been asinine to match or beat their offer. The Jets released Cotchery only after he requested to be released. His discontent stemmed from the Jets demoting him, basically feeling he was not worthy of a starting role. This sentiment was shared by all 31 other teams and he eventually signed on for peanuts to be the Steelers' 4th string WR. Ellis was not released. The Jets gave him a long-term deal and he played out that entire contract. The Pats offered him $4M or $5M for 2011. The Jets appropriately did not match. Coles was one of the most despicable players in team history with respect to contracts. Just a miserable prick. Scott is getting guaranteed money in 2012 in exchange for considerations in 2011. The Jets did not break new ground here. Frankly the worst part about it is he isn't worth half what he's guaranteed this season. The Jets have made some real bonehead moves, I seriously have no idea what you're talking about with these players. The only one they released was due to the player's own request. And that player sucked overall the prior season, dropping like 20% of the passes thrown his way. Facts Facts Facts...facts...SNAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 This entire post and the premise of this thread is ridiculous... I am thankful that this isn't another thread reporting BS Jets news though, so it is an improvement.... Maybe you're premise ridiculous, but I am thankful this isn't just another admin making a silly comment though, so it is an improvement... (fyi with out BS jets news what would we have? just Big C at ESPN) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 gosh. Glad I didn't mention Thomas Jones. The point I so aptly failed to make is that the culture of the lockerroom has shifted...and it seems to have stemmed from trading our loyal players for rent-for-hire types. Keeping sh*tty players out of loyalty is the quickest way to have a sh*tty roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Facts Facts Facts...facts...SNAP oh, blow it...everyone wants to talk about my gravy...nobody cares about the meat & potatoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I agree, but they should have been put on Mulligan, Hunter, Plax, Eric Smith, maybe Holmes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Bounties for legal hits...say knocking the wind out of a player. Or, getting a sack/interception...that's cool. Or anything illegal done to Tom Brady is okay. But otherwise, bounties for dirty plays that purposely violate the safety sanctions of the NFL are immoral and I'm glad our team isn't caught up in that. Can you imagine the sh*t-storm that would surround Rex, if his big-mouth started losing us draft picks. We would be the Penn State of the NFL. The whole thing is retarded...I mean, whats the F'ing point of a union and protecting the players with insurance and guaranteed money, etc if you're going to go and try to injury your fellow union members? Carting them off? Really? And there was a lockout? Players are ******* morons. All the heat is going toward the coaches but the players are just as much at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yeah lets put a bounty on who can find our offense from last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn31 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The whole thing is retarded...I mean, whats the F'ing point of a union and protecting the players with insurance and guaranteed money, etc if you're going to go and try to injury your fellow union members? Carting them off? Really? And there was a lockout? Players are ******* morons. All the heat is going toward the coaches but the players are just as much at fault. Who has 2 thumbs (hopefully) and gets it? ^^This guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The coaching staff did put bounties out last year -- They saved a sh*tload of money too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Thats how super bowls are won. Damn it. Seriously big deal, im all for bounties, take player out of the game this isnt "tag", people have pads on. I like the idea where aggression and hitting hard is welcome. And if you dont, go back to canada or whatever stupid county you come from cause this is 'merica and we real football... BAM I wish the Jets defense would have bounties for game ending sacks... or turnovers... or not allowing 10-play, 90-second 4th quarter drives to the opponents before halftime or the final buzzer.... yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 I wish the Jets defense would have bounties for game ending sacks... or turnovers... or not allowing 10-play, 90-second 4th quarter drives to the opponents before halftime or the final buzzer.... yeah. In fairness the D was up against God on that one, can't blame them, that guy is good, ask the steelers about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 In fairness the D was up against God on that one, can't blame them, that guy is good, ask the steelers about it On that "one". LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Sucks for the guys pin Buffalo he got fired in 2003. Those injury bounties could have been like that Xmass bonus you count on every year if they got to play Pennington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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