Thai Jet Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I know I'm in the minority but actually I'd like to see Rex stay. Give him a 2 year deal and see what happens. A lot, of course , will depend on Gino's progress or lack of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I know I'm in the minority but actually I'd like to see Rex stay. Give him a 2 year deal and see what happens. A lot, of course , will depend on Gino's progress or lack of. You are not in the minority. T0m and a few others by trolling the site have made you feel that way. The poll on here I believe was 58% for Rex. Of the polls on other sites, and the media, it ranges from 75-90% for Rex staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 guys what if we just let him coach out the last year of his contract I tried that already. I'm told it's impossible. That the last year doesn't really exist and 4-year contracts are actually 3-year contracts. One dare not enter the 4th year. Must cut bait or extend. Do not enter the forbidden zone. If there is an obvious, available upgrade then replace him. If he's getting replaced just to replace him, and if Rex is such obvious pre-destined failure, then I'd rather have 1 year of it than 3 or more with a shiny, new incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 You are not in the minority. T0m and a few others by trolling the site have made you feel that way. The poll on here I believe was 58% for Rex. Of the polls on other sites, and the media, it ranges from 75-90% for Rex staying probably 100% by now for Rex staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 But you forget about those 5 yard short passes that ONLY left us 2 yards short. The WRs dont deserve any blame. What if dip$hit Sanchez threw the ball too early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 No you werent. Sanchez sucked the life out of franchise. Go ask a rams fan about shotty he's awful. It's not mutually exclusive, they both sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 probably 100% by now for Rex staying. Not quite. They'll always be people who argue that the world is flat. No offense intended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Not quite. They'll always be people who argue that the world is flat. No offense intended The worlds not flat? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If Rex stays I can almost guarantee that the Jets will have another .500 or worse season and miss the playoffs again. So, yeah. Bring him back. People here love mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If Rex stays I can almost guarantee that the Jets will have another .500 or worse season and miss the playoffs again. So, yeah. Bring him back. People here love mediocrity. I cannot believe Izdk likes the Jets popping off every other week. Sherman talks some for the Hawks, but Rex takes it another level. Mo Wilky guaranteed the NE win = loss Colon ran his mouth to the Bills = loss Santurdio dissed the Panthers = loss Rex dared the Ravens to throw deep = loss Now, Crow bad mouths Miami = if I had to bet another loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 It's not mutually exclusive, they both sucked. Sanchez should have never been starting. The Jets would have at least been to a Super Bowl if a Vet was the starter and Sanchez was on the job training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbanmadmike1 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Go ask any NFL fan about the Buttfumble. Yeah. they both suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Sanchez should have never been starting. The Jets would have at least been to a Super Bowl if a Vet was the starter and Sanchez was on the job training. Some of your points on this thread like this one are good. But, Bevell is getting a lot of credit for what is a talented offense in Seattle. He was fired not too long ago from the Vikings and has really no coaching history before that. Bevell is a run first coach, and I really do not see him as any upgrade to Rex. Rex, like many coaches, including Belichick has made some mistakes - but seems to have learned from them. If you bring in another first year head coach you are kind of starting over. Especially one with as little experience as Bevell. You really can not blame Rex for the offense this year. It has no talent at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Some of your points on this thread like this one are good. But, Bevell is getting a lot of credit for what is a talented offense in Seattle. He was fired not too long ago from the Vikings and has really no coaching history before that. Bevell is a run first coach, and I really do not see him as any upgrade to Rex. Rex, like many coaches, including Belichick has made some mistakes - but seems to have learned from them. If you bring in another first year head coach you are kind of starting over. Especially one with as little experience as Bevell. You really can not blame Rex for the offense this year. It has no talent at all. Russell Wilson is great, Marshawn Lynch is good, Golden Tate is a #2-3 receiver. They start Doug Baldwin at WR and Zach Miller at TE. To say that he's coaching a "talented" offense is a stretch. He hasn't even had his #1 or 2 receiver all year and they're 2nd in points scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Some of your points on this thread like this one are good. But, Bevell is getting a lot of credit for what is a talented offense in Seattle. He was fired not too long ago from the Vikings and has really no coaching history before that. Bevell is a run first coach, and I really do not see him as any upgrade to Rex. Rex, like many coaches, including Belichick has made some mistakes - but seems to have learned from them. If you bring in another first year head coach you are kind of starting over. Especially one with as little experience as Bevell. You really can not blame Rex for the offense this year. It has no talent at all. Rex is to blame for the offensive talent he has been here for 5 years and only cares about the defense Go look at the the offensive talent last year. It's the same !! Don't give him a pass. When he says this is the most talented team he's had out of training camp ! If he gets an extension of more than a year we might be in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Three years. His last contract year to realize Geno sucks and two years with a new QB, a veteren hardened defense and an offense that should have some weapons. but honestly i dont trust the jets to not try and go after johnny manzel and waste another 1. We should pick nothing but skill players and no QB so there can be no way we are saying "Geno doesnt have any help!" Cause thats what you all are gonna say all next year when he is still sucking balls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Rex is to blame for the offensive talent he has been here for 5 years and only cares about the defense Go look at the the offensive talent last year. It's the same !! Don't give him a pass. When he says this is the most talented team he's had out of training camp ! If he gets an extension of more than a year we might be in trouble Even of this were true -and I don't buy in, I put the blame squarely at Tannenbaum's feet, but- even if this were true, it shouldn't matter at all to the new GM if he intends to have complete control over free agency and the draft. Why should it matter to him if when Rex said, "jump!" Tannenbaum said, "how high?" If Idzik has no intention of jumping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Rex has been here 5 yeArs And besides the. DL the whole team has gotten worse but that's. not his fault ! What is his fault ? I don't get all this support when we haven't been to the playoffs in 3 years ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCJETSFAN Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Even of this were true -and I don't buy in, I put the blame squarely at Tannenbaum's feet, but- even if this were true, it shouldn't matter at all to the new GM if he intends to have complete control over free agency and the draft. Why should it matter to him if when Rex said, "jump!" Tannenbaum said, "how high?" If Idzik has no intention of jumping?[/quo Lol at the draft picks all defense !! But Rex has no say ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Lol at the draft picks all defense !! But Rex has no say ? You missed the point. If Rex had all the say in the world with Tannenbaum, that's inconsequential to Idzik if he doesn't plan to give Ryan the same level of input. Basically, so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Sanchez should have never been starting. The Jets would have at least been to a Super Bowl if a Vet was the starter and Sanchez was on the job training. All hypotheticals, that I don't necessarily disagree with, but they don't prove that Schotty wasn't awful as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 4-EVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Mornhinweg is a better OC than Bevel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The Jets will hold a press conference on Monday to say good bye to Rex. Who is your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The little voice in his head that he always listens to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Rex has been here 5 yeArs And besides the. DL the whole team has gotten worse but that's. not his fault ! What is his fault ? I don't get all this support when we haven't been to the playoffs in 3 years ! Austin Howard, Jeremy Kerley, others on defense have all developed pretty well. Cro played better with Rex, than he did in SD. Revis played his best under Rex. D Davis looks to be coming along nicely. Powell and Ivory are playing well. B Edwards played good under Rex. There are more too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Russell Wilson is great, Marshawn Lynch is good, Golden Tate is a #2-3 receiver. They start Doug Baldwin at WR and Zach Miller at TE. To say that he's coaching a "talented" offense is a stretch. He hasn't even had his #1 or 2 receiver all year and they're 2nd in points scored. The Seahawks have one of the best, if not thee best OL's in the NFL. Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate are better than any WR's the Jets have brought through here in like three years. Who are the great WR's that Rex is holding back? Gates? Lynch isnt just good, he is GREAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Offense is the way to go. Jets cannot compete with the 30th ranked offense no matter how good the defense is. Darrel Bevel is the guy. He developed Wilson. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Bevell Which makes him a great OC or QB coach, but not sure about HC. So many more things (that Rex doesn't know) go into being a HC like instilling discipline and not allowing players to make stupid, outrageous statements to the press (Cromartie, Holmes) and keeping the team on an even emotional level through the entire season, NOT just a game or two here and there. I don't think Bevel is the guy, but he may be Idzik's guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 If Rex stays I can almost guarantee that the Jets will have another .500 or worse season and miss the playoffs again. So, yeah. Bring him back. People here love mediocrity. I agree. I also predict that the Jets will NOT make a SB EVER with Rex Ryan as HC. I don't care if he stays 10 more years, the Jets will be close but no cigar. I also predict that next season the Jets will stand with a winning record and people thinking playoffs and a big game coming up against a division foe. Rex will, of course, call it a 'huge game' and guess what? The Jets will LOSE by 20. THAT is who Rex Ryan really is....almost a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Which makes him a great OC or QB coach, but not sure about HC. So many more things (that Rex doesn't know) go into being a HC like instilling discipline and not allowing players to make stupid, outrageous statements to the press (Cromartie, Holmes) and keeping the team on an even emotional level through the entire season, NOT just a game or two here and there. I don't think Bevel is the guy, but he may be Idzik's guy. Agreed, this is what Rex is not good at. Not sure Bevell coming from that circus in Seattle would change any of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Austin Howard, Jeremy Kerley, others on defense have all developed pretty well. Cro played better with Rex, than he did in SD. Revis played his best under Rex. D Davis looks to be coming along nicely. Powell and Ivory are playing well. B Edwards played good under Rex. There are more too. It's not like any of the great talent provided by the front office that slipped thru Rex's fingers has gone on to greatness, either. I mean, outside of the Great and Powerful Woodhead. In fact, you could look at a guy in Brad Smith who earned a $4M/year free agent contract for his work under Rex, only to be cut by the team who paid him. He hasn't come close to the same production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It's not like any of the great talent provided by the front office that slipped thru Rex's fingers has gone on to greatness, either. I mean, outside of the Great and Powerful Woodhead. In fact, you could look at a guy in Brad Smith who earned a $4M/year free agent contract for his work under Rex, only to be cut by the team who paid him. He hasn't come close to the same production. Agreed, if you want to kill Rex for his lack of getting certain players under control. Players that other frachises couldnt control either, btw, then fine. But Rex hasnt had a lot of talent to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I also predict that the Jets will NOT make a SB EVER with Rex Ryan as HC. Bold prediction, because -you know- without Rex the Jets go to the Super Bowl all the time. Of course, with Rex the Jets have been closer, more often, than at any other time in franchise history since Weeb. But yeah, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Bold prediction, because -you know- without Rex the Jets go to the Super Bowl all the time. Of course, with Rex the Jets have been closer, more often, than at any other time in franchise history since Weeb. But yeah, whatever. Ancient f-ink history. How have the last three years been? You a happy man now that the Jets might actually be a .500 team? Let's not forget the genius Rex is on the sideline today against a team he rarely beats which also happens to be a division rival, but I guess your ok with that watching it on your big screen TV in your mom's basement while she whips up a batch of Quinos, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Bold prediction, because -you know- without Rex the Jets go to the Super Bowl all the time. Of course, with Rex the Jets have been closer, more often, than at any other time in franchise history since Weeb. But yeah, whatever. And while we are on the subject of Rex getting the Jets CLOSE, let's take a look at how those games turned out. How well did Rex's TOP freakin 5 defense stop the Steelers run game? Nine straight runs right the fu*k at them and BARF Scott whiffs on NOT one but TWO times where he coulda, woulda, shoulda stopped the mighty Rashard Mendenhall BEHIND the LOS. Yeah, the Jets turned up BIG TIME for that one. What REALLY happened was that Rex was so gushy in love with himself after upsetting the Pats that he COMPLETELY forgot to prepare them for Pittsburgh. But that's ok too ain't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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