CobraVerde Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 just announced. he is our guy. hope we go for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Hope we get him in the 2nd or 3rd. He'll be a good go to guy for first downs and TDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Make it happen Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Mike Williams USC WR 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I love big tall receivers, and to me Benjamin is a borderline 1st round talent. I like Evans first, and then this dude next. I just like guys big and Tall and can outjump and outfight shorter d-backs. I almost want him to NOT impress at the combine and have him drop to the 2nd round and possibly get both these guys if we dont persue a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 There's a cautionary tale here. Dude is a beast but I can give an almost unlimited list of super strong, tall, muscular, straight line fast, College WRs who stink in the NFL because they can't separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I love me some Jordan Mathews. Watkins more, but I don't think he will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 There's a cautionary tale here. Dude is a beast but I can give an almost unlimited list of super strong, tall, muscular, straight line fast, College WRs who stink in the NFL because they can't separate. Big issue with Geno's accuracy issues and very small windows if they cant seperate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Mike Williams USC WR 2.0 Kelvin isnt going 10th overall and I'm pretty sure he wont be eating himself out of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 There's a cautionary tale here. Dude is a beast but I can give an almost unlimited list of super strong, tall, muscular, straight line fast, College WRs who stink in the NFL because they can't separate. True. But the benefit of Benji is that he doesn't need to get separation. Even if he's covered, he's open. He's not a first round talent, but he's a good addition to a struggling offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Mike Williams USC WR 2.0 Ernest Wilford Vtech WR 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Kelvin isnt going 10th overall and I'm pretty sure he wont be eating himself out of the league. No he won't eat himself out of the league, but he also tends to drop the easy passes and he doesn't get separation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Ernest Wilford Vtech WR 2.0 I had to look him up. He held records for most receiving TDs at Virginia Tech, and was drafted in the fourth round. Same size-ish, with similar haircut. Benjamin is a red-zone threat, not a world-beater, which is why he's not a first round talent. If we were able to get him at the top of the 3rd round, we would have a viable red-zone scoring machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 He's more of a top 50 talent than top 18 from what I saw of him, but I hate evaluating/predicting tall wide receivers, so who knows. He could be the next Alshon or he could be Limas Sweed, although I'm leaning towards the former. If Benji can run a sub 4.5 like Alshon did at his pro-day, he's likely gone by the beginning of the second round. If I had my druthers, I'd pair him with sammy watkins, marqise lee or Odelle Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 God, I had such high hopes for Limas Sweed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Big issue with Geno's accuracy issues and very small windows if they cant seperate? I'm thinking it's a risk reward thing. Very few "big" WRs make it in the NFL due to lack of separation. Some become decent red zone targets on a rookie contract and then fall out of the league. That said there are a few who become legitimate stars like Vincent Jackson and Brandon Marshall. But if Benjamin is around a second-third round pick (at least for now?) I'm asking do you really want that pick to be a red zone type guy? Most fans hated on Plaxico his one year here... and he went 40 for 8. If you're taking a WR, it's either a guy like Benjamin, who is most likely your 36 for 6 type (BUT he does bring that element of, "Man, what if he can figure it all out, he's the next Randy Moss") Or do you look at other WR's who are possibly still on the board, like a Brandin Cooks, Landry types who were more productive and have a better all around game...but maybe not as high a ceiling. The winning numbers are 4,16, 7 & 25. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So is he basically Stephen Hill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So is he basically Stephen Hill? Not even close. Benji caught a lot more then 25 balls in a season and isn't just a speed demon. Benji goes up for the ball and fights for it. He also keeps his eyes open lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I love big tall receivers, and to me Benjamin is a borderline 1st round talent. I like Evans first, and then this dude next. I just like guys big and Tall and can outjump and outfight shorter d-backs. I almost want him to NOT impress at the combine and have him drop to the 2nd round and possibly get both these guys if we dont persue a QB. Stephen Hill can do all those things, but he can't catch or run routes. I'd like a WR that can do THOSE things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Not even close. Benji caught a lot more then 25 balls in a season and isn't just a speed demon. Benji goes up for the ball and fights for it. He also keeps his eyes open lol. Ah, for some reason the Seminoles website only had his 2011/2012 seasons listed, I mistook his 2012 season (30 receptions, 495 yards, 4 TD, something like that) for his 2013 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Hill was a project and still is-not comparable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 God, I had such high hopes for Limas Sweed. Jonathan Baldwin, Ramses Barden, Brian Robiskie, James Hardy, Malcolm Kelly, Mike Williams, Matt Jones, Michael Jenkins, Reggie Williams, Michael Clayton, Charlie Rogers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Ernest Wilford Vtech WR 2.0 wonder where you drew that comparison from.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Benji goes up for the ball and fights for it. He also keeps his eyes open lol. There should be a metric to record that at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Benjamin also catches the ball thrown to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Jonathan Baldwin, Ramses Barden, Brian Robiskie, James Hardy, Malcolm Kelly, Mike Williams, Matt Jones, Michael Jenkins, Reggie Williams, Michael Clayton, Charlie Rogers... Can't miss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Mike Williams USC WR 2.0 Minus the eating disorder, I hope. If not, nobody is using the nickname "Hot Plate" these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Am I the only one more worried about his thug-turdiness and apparent learning disability, than his ability to separate? IMO character will be what defines his draft status, not his ability. See: Da'Rick Rogers, now on the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I'd be happy if we get him in the 2nd or 3rd if he turns into Plax minus shooting himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132724/kelvin-benjamin Florida State redshirt sophomore WR Kelvin Benjamin will declare for the NFL draft, according to Tom D'Angelo. Benjamin will turn 23 in February despite only seeing the field for two seasons. He is a massive target who has the frame and ability to dominate at the catch point, but he dropped catchable passes far too often. The wide receiver class is very deep at the top, but Benjamin has a chance to be a top-32 selection. Th NFL Draft Advisory Board gave him a first-round projection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I'm not impressed with this kid, especially if we're talking the 1st or 2nd rds. Marques Lee is way better than this dude overall. If he becomes a value pick later down the draft then cool, but not his highlights or the BCS game convinced me otherwise about this dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 wonder where you drew that comparison from.. we collaborated on it, right? It was a great comparison. plexico, marcedes lewis are also good ones. Here's another one, David nelson they already have the slow tall RZ target. This team needs exploders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I'm not impressed with this kid, especially if we're talking the 1st or 2nd rds. Marques Lee is way better than this dude overall. If he becomes a value pick later down the draft then cool, but not his highlights or the BCS game convinced me otherwise about this dude. agree but Lee is from USC. How is Idzik gonna to that well after Tanny took a dump in it with Sanchez, McKnight etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 "exploders" I have your back, Bit...But sometimes you make it hard. <-- (not an erection quip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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