stoicsentry Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 They already had Stevie Johnson, Mike Williams and Robert Woods. Now you add Sammy Watkins. #1: I'm jelly. #2: are they really planning on keeping them all? Mike Williams will be their #4? Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I love this pick for them. They still have Manuel throwing the ball and don't have a first round pick next year, so it will be 2016 before the can draft another QB and rebuild again. Dumpster fire comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 They are doing exactly what the Jets will be doing. Giving their young QB enough options to see if they are worth their salt. I don't think Manuel or Smith are franchise QBs, but with enough weapons you coul hide both enough effectively. I also think they try to move Stevie Johnson and you can't really count on Mike Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Difference is that the Jets can address the QB position next year if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Exactly why Pryor makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I also think they try to move Stevie Johnson and you can't really count on Mike Williams. I think this is the case. Both the ESPN and NFL channel analysts suggested Johnson might be available for a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Yeah. Johnson is supposedly super expendable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 They are doing exactly what the Jets will be doing. Giving their young QB enough options to see if they are worth their salt. I don't think Manuel or Smith are franchise QBs, but with enough weapons you coul hide both enough effectively. You can compare the RBs, but the Bills are significantly better than the Jets at WR, and probably at TE as well. Even with a 2nd round pick at WR, I don't think the Jets have given Geno enough to accurately evaluate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 You can compare the RBs, but the Bills are significantly better than the Jets at WR, and probably at TE as well. Even with a 2nd round pick at WR, I don't think the Jets have given Geno enough to accurately evaluate him. ******* Idzik. Why didn't he trade away next year's first? He doesn't care, that's why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetLee83 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 They are doing exactly what the Jets will be doing. Giving their young QB enough options to see if they are worth their salt. I don't think Manuel or Smith are franchise QBs, but with enough weapons you coul hide both enough effectively. I also think they try to move Stevie Johnson and you can't really count on Mike Williams. Well said. You're spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Trade away next year's first??!?!?!? Do you think we are one player away? That is rubbish, absolute bs. Idzik is playing the long game. We are not one player away, we have a few holes that need to be filled and Idzik is doing the right thing. If Watkins does not pan out then you can't do jack squat next year in the 1st round....and the 4th round. You are dependant on the 2nd round. These types of deep drafts don't occur every year. The wise move is to stay pat and draft players that can help you build the team back. The Bills are going for a home run but it is likely that instead they may strike out. The tortoise and the hare, the hare is flashly but the tortoise wins the race. Idzik is the tortoise. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetLee83 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 The wise move is to stay pat and draft players that can help you build the team back. The Bills are going for a home run but it is likely that instead they may strike out. Exactly, . These types of deep drafts don't occur every year. Exactly why I'm glad we kept all of our picks this year, making the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I honestly thought it was a terrible move. So many reasons why it was terrible. It wasn't a position of need on a team where there are a lot of needs for starters. Just a terrible decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Exactly, Exactly why I'm glad we kept all of our picks this year, making the move. Buffalo was smart in keeping their picks this year BUT if this year is not a playoff year and they are sub .500 again, then next year's draft will be a boon for the Browns and a huge bust for the Bills. Its a very risky proposition. The Bills better hope that their team is a playoff team in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetLee83 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I honestly thought it was a terrible move. So many reasons why it was terrible. It wasn't a position of need on a team where there are a lot of needs for starters. Just a terrible decision. Speed? Check. Explosiveness? Check. Great hands? Check. Physicality in both yards after the catch and to get off press coverage? Check and check. He is an instant impact type of player. He was the top guy on their board, and per Schefter, he was #1 on multiple teams boards. Absolutely love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Sammy is the real deal. Hard to knock it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Speed? Check. Explosiveness? Check. Great hands? Check. Physicality in both yards after the catch and to get off press coverage? Check and check. He is an instant impact type of player. He was the top guy on their board, and per Schefter, he was #1 on multiple teams boards. Absolutely love it. Most WR's still take 3 years to adjust to the NFL game. Even the great Calvin and Andre Johnson's of the NFL had a bumpy first three season. His measurables were arguably not even the best in this draft at his position. They do not compare in anyway to the Andre and Calvin's of the world. Even with all that being said, I prefer a team that builds from the inside, out. I'm not saying he is trash, just saying that trading up for him on a team like Buffalo is a mistake. I would have been pissed if the Jets traded up for a WR in this draft's first round. I can't change my opinion for the Bills when the Bills have further to go to be a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I don't think this GM and coach will be around very long in Buffalo, New ownership will have their hands full and bring in a new coach and GM, I like their new DC, but their coach just does not have the acumen to put it all together, he was a hell of line coach for the Jets under Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Most WR's still take 3 years to adjust to the NFL game. Even the great Calvin and Andre Johnson's of the NFL had a bumpy first three season. His measurables were arguably not even the best in this draft at his position. They do not compare in anyway to the Andre and Calvin's of the world. Even with all that being said, I prefer a team that builds from the inside, out. I'm not saying he is trash, just saying that trading up for him on a team like Buffalo is a mistake. I would have been pissed if the Jets traded up for a WR in this draft's first round. I can't change my opinion for the Bills when the Bills have further to go to be a contender. Everything about this makes perfect sense. So with that Pryor was a better pick in my eyes then Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 You can compare the RBs, but the Bills are significantly better than the Jets at WR, and probably at TE as well. Even with a 2nd round pick at WR, I don't think the Jets have given Geno enough to accurately evaluate him. when is the last time we could adequately evaluate the qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Even if Sammy turns out to be a Julio Jones type talent, the fact remains that a WR cannot take a team into the playoffs. You need above average QB play and some defense. While the Jills have some impressive talent on their roster, they also have a lot of firewood. At least when the Falcons traded up for Julio, they had a well rounded roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 when is the last time we could adequately evaluate the qb? I don't think we can't...problem was the Sanchez pick was all about Woody. As the Tebow signing...we won games which ended up compounding the problem. I think not taking the 3 guys who just went shows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 I don't think we can't...problem was the Sanchez pick was all about Woody. As the Tebow signing...we won games which ended up compounding the problem. I think not taking the 3 guys who just went shows that. i agree with you--sick of hearing "no weapons, can't evaluate," but the irony is there is massive love for kerley and nelson around here. lotta inconsistent homerism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 i agree with you--sick of hearing "no weapons, can't evaluate," but the irony is there is massive love for kerley and nelson around here. lotta inconsistent homerism. Kerley's a legit NFL starter...Nelsons a JAG. But way better than the dopes we've had. Clyde Gates? Mitchell Friedman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 i agree with you--sick of hearing "no weapons, can't evaluate," but the irony is there is massive love for kerley and nelson around here. lotta inconsistent homerism. Maybe Nelson..but to be fair Jeremy Kerley has produced well here and keeps progressing. He is only going into his 4th season. I don't see the problem with showing Kerley love when he is the only WR making plays out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 High Risk - High Reward. He's a stud and he's going to do well. Just a matter of whether giving up next year's first is going to hurt them building a team long-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Exactly why Pryor makes sense. Yeah, now throw one of my Florida boys in the 3rd (Purifoy) on that secondary...LOOK OUT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 High Risk - High Reward. He's a stud and he's going to do well. Just a matter of whether giving up next year's first is going to hurt them building a team long-term. They're idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Is Eric Decker still the best WR in the afc east? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 Is Eric Decker still the best WR in the afc east? Probably not the best but close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Wait a second.... Stevie Johnson.. a.k.a. Darelle Revis' kyrptonite may be available? Hmmmmm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Wait a second.... Stevie Johnson.. a.k.a. Darelle Revis' kyrptonite may be Hmmmmm...... Johnson available...? Hmp. You got a link ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Regardless we won't get him. Very highly doubt they send their current best WR to a division rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Most WR's still take 3 years to adjust to the NFL game. Even the great Calvin and Andre Johnson's of the NFL had a bumpy first three season. His measurables were arguably not even the best in this draft at his position. They do not compare in anyway to the Andre and Calvin's of the world. Even with all that being said, I prefer a team that builds from the inside, out. I'm not saying he is trash, just saying that trading up for him on a team like Buffalo is a mistake. I would have been pissed if the Jets traded up for a WR in this draft's first round. I can't change my opinion for the Bills when the Bills have further to go to be a contender. So what you're really saying is one more year and Stephen Hill is a stud possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Well said. You're spot on. $8,500,000 cap hit -- some other team will have to be in love with Stevie. Plus, he represents $10,225,000 dead money in 2014. They are stuck with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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