Villain The Foe Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 http://turnonthejets.com/2014/06/new-york-jets-man-mystery-quinton-coples/ What do we know about New York Jets pass rusher Quinton Coples? The man is a physical specimen; a 6’6″ – 290 pound behemoth that can run like a tight end (4.78 second 40). His rare blend of size, speed, and power provide versatility and the potential to be a match up nightmare. All positive and all tantalizing. It is what we do not know about Coples that is concerning. We have yet to see the 23 year old pass rusher put it together and make strides towards his potential. Rex Ryan and the defensive staff brought Coples along slowly his rookie season, he was in on only 47% of the defensive snaps. With Mike DeVito and Muhammad Wilkerson taking the majority of reps at defensive end, Coples was religated to a relief or situational role. However, after a two sack outing in the week six win over Indianapolis, Coples snap count jumped. By the end of the year, Coples was taking snaps from DeVito and racked in three and a half sacks in four games. With Coples’ arrow pointing up going into 2013, many in the Jets media circles pegged him as a break out candidate. Even we at TOJ hopped on the hype train. Early preseason glimpses seemed to validate our expectations when Coples tore through both the Lions and Jaguars first-team offensive linemen. After strip sacking Blaine Gabbert, however, Coples landed awkwardly on his ankle and fractured it. This delayed the Coples hype train at the station as the pass rusher missed four games. However, the man that stepped on the field for the first time against the Bills in week two was not the same one we saw in pre-season. For much of the season, Coples looked like a shell of himself. Only around week seven, with a brilliant game clinching sack of Drew Brees, did Coples begin to reemerge. Even then, Coples could not string together consistent performances until the last five games of the season, again tallying three and a half sacks. In October of last season, our Frank Giansone discussed thepossible factors that may have contributed to Coples’ slump. His health was the popular explanation for the disappearance. It was suggested that he rushed back from injury, limiting his practice time and on-field ability. The position change from defensive end to outside linebacker was also assigned some blame. However, as often discussed on this site, the designation was overblown. Coples spent most of his time in a three point stance and tasked only with rushing the passer. The most concerning factor discussed was Coples’ possible lack of fire. This dubious trait was a perceived weakness in his game during the pre-draft process. According to his teammates and coaches, this distinction is far from the truth. However, a lack of motivation is not an easy fault to address and even the slightest kernel of truth to these rumors is troublesome. Sidebar: Coples is one of the Jets players I have had the honor of meeting and his passion was evident in our conversations. I have no personal questions about his motor or love of the game. Wether you consider these factors excuses or explanations, the lack of results is dismaying. Coples has all the talent in the world, it is just a matter of him putting it all together. Going into the 2014 season, Coples has no excuses. In year one he was still learning and on a pitch count. In year two, he was hampered by a number of factors. Coples has now had two years to adapt to the play book, a clean bill of health, and no leash in terms of snaps. His time is now. How good can this defense be with Coples playing up to his potential? Lets take a look. Here Coples lines up in the five technique in a three point stance. He bends to the outside shoulder of the tackle and uses his power to push the tackle deep into the backfield. After Bart Scott forces Andrew Luck to break the pocket, Coples uses a solid rip move to disengage from his blocker and take the rookie quarterback to the turf. Here the Jets align in an amoeba or psycho front, characterized by the constant pre-snap motion and disguised assignments. Coples shoots the weakside B gap with outstanding explosion and tackles Leon Washington for a loss. This play highlights Coples’ speed and agility. Men of that stature usually struggle to hit those small gaps and navigate that kind of traffic. Here Coples again lines up as the five technique end with his hand in the dirt. He stuns pro-bowl left tackle Nate Solder with a quick jab. He then bends the edge and strips the ball from Tom Brady. These few glimpses of Coples when he is playing to his ability hint at numerous possibilities for next season. When looked at as a group, the three highlighted plays show Coples’ versatility. He uses a blend of power and finesse to both rush the passer and stuff the run. He can line up at five technique or rush the interior. The third play (strip sack of Brady) shows the potential of the defensive line with Coples in the game. With Coples, Wilkerson, and Sheldon Richardson in the game together the pocket quickly collapses. Wilkerson and Richardson stunt, disrupting the interior protections. With the focus on the two ends, Coples is left on an island with Solder. Coples will be able to take advantage of these match ups that his fellow linemen provide him (it is worth mentioning that despite the double teams Wilkerson and Richardson still get in Brady’s face). We now have two seasons worth of evidence to asses Coples, yet are no closer to a conclusion. There is evidence that points to Coples being a hot-and-cold player; one with both moments of brilliance and periods of silence. There is evidence to the contrary that Coples is ready to make the leap and put his first two seasons behind him. In truth, he is a conundrum, an enigma, an obscurum per obscurius. Coples leaves one with questions. Coples inspires hope. Hopefully, the 2014 season will provide some answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Coples has definitely shown flashes. If he can put it all together and play that way on a consistent basis, it would make this defense that much better since it would fill that need for an edge rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 He's going to be great. He was hurt a lot last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I agree with AirForceJetFan.... He has shoen glimpses of what he can be in Rex's Defense. Let's hope it all comes together this year. If so he could be the best edge rusher for the Jets since John Abraham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Villain shoots and scores again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 If his rookie year, he was a rookie. Not everyone is Sheldon Richardson. He came on at the end of the season, though, and looked really good. Last year, they changed his position pretty much the moment they drafted the above mentioned SR, and struggled with the rookie-like issues of learning a new position (and injuries), but again really came on at the end of the year. This year, he's been preparing all off season to play the OLB position. He's lost weight, and has a year under his belt at the spot. He's coming in healthy and experienced, and there's no excuse not to finally get off to a fast start. And I expect that he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Coples has definitely shown flashes. If he can put it all together and play that way on a consistent basis, it would make this defense that much better since it would fill that need for an edge rusher. He's going to be great. He was hurt a lot last year. I agree with AirForceJetFan.... He has shoen glimpses of what he can be in Rex's Defense. Let's hope it all comes together this year. If so he could be the best edge rusher for the Jets since John Abraham. If Coples comes on and Calvin Pryor is in fact "Special" this defense will be #1 in the league easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Villain shoots and scores again. Just because I make it look easy doesn't me it is! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 The position change from defensive end to outside linebacker was also assigned some blame. However, as often discussed on this site, the designation was overblown. Coples spent most of his time in a three point stance and tasked only with rushing the passer. This can't be true, T0mShame told me Rex is ruining him by playing him out of position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 This can't be true, T0mShame told me Rex is ruining him by playing him out of position I dont know man. Im going to leave the subject alone though. I dont want Tom "hurting himself"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I miss that Amoeba defense, it's not an option on Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I know 1st hand, up close , form college days, when he is on he dominates a game the way Peppers used to in college, but even a UNC homer like me will admit he used to take plays off form time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I don't think he takes plays off. I see it more a case of him not fully understanding his assignment on some plays causing indecision, hesitation. If and when he fully understands all the defensive calls he will be a double digit sack guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I like that he's good for a couple bone-headed roughing the passer plays. The after the whistle pile-ons, jabs, and push offs. He plays mean, and he looks mean. Our defense needs a couple of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 If Coples comes on and Calvin Pryor is in fact "Special" this defense will be #1 in the league easy. Indeed. If the CB position gets resolved opposite milner and they both play well, this defense will be really special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I don't think he takes plays off. I see it more a case of him not fully understanding his assignment on some plays causing indecision, hesitation. If and when he fully understands all the defensive calls he will be a double digit sack guy. my point was he did in college, i havent seen that in Pros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 He's going to be a monster this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 He's going to be a monster this season. from your lips......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 Indeed. If the CB position gets resolved opposite milner and they both play well, this defense will be really special. True. I dont think we have as pressing a need at CB as many tend to be as concerned about. I believe that Milliner will have a year similar to the back end of his rookie year than the beginning, and people pretend like Dimitri Patterson is some slouch CB. His durability is a concern but his game isn't. With the way the Jets have handled injuries prone players during Rex time here this shouldn't be as an alarming issue as it seems to be. Kyle Wilson is a very good slot guy. Darren Walls has is eyes on that #2 spot while Dexter McDougle is mentally acute and seems to be able to translate that to the football field. Whats funny, just by draft places Pryor could be our Earl Thomas, Allen could be our Kam Chancellor and Dexter McDougle could be that Richard Sherman, and McDougle didnt look like a mid 3rd round pick with his college tape. Dexter was obviously a 3rd rounder due to his injury. Richard Sherman's Stanford tape wasn't impressive at all imo (its on youtube somewhere) and it made sense at the time that Sherman was a mid 5th round pick. And lets not forget Ras-I Dowling, a guy who has talent, but also had durability issues. The Jets Defense on paper is very well rounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 from your lips......................... so many things I can do with this. So many terrible wonderful things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Indeed. If the CB position gets resolved opposite milner and they both play well, this defense will be really special. I think we understate how good Patterson can be. He hasn't been very healthy the last few yrs but he has the talent to hold the fort and play far better than Cro did last yr. His play will be an upgrade over the way Cro played in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Thanks, Villian...I was waiting for this one. Coples is the biggest IF of 2014, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I miss that Amoeba defense, it's not an option on Madden. They took out the two 1-5-5 looks? Used to be in the playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 They took out the two 1-5-5 looks? Used to be in the playbook. Full disclosure, I was just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 They took out the two 1-5-5 looks? Used to be in the playbook. It was in the copy Nick Saban emailed to me, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Kenrick Ellis is a badass. This Youtube highlight clip proves it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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