Spoot-Face Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Not really Tom Shane thinks crucifixion is a sex position.. Well, it's probably that tortuous from the other person's perspective. I'm Sorry, T0m. But not enough not to post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 We should have been in the Tyrod Taylor sweepstakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I wont be rooting for that sh*t. This. I rather Fitz for another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Arizona gave up a 6th rounder for Palmer. Why the **** didn't we do that? RJF, Palmer's stock was pretty low after a couple of mediocre seasons at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Kaep's contract is not conducive to trades. He's not going to renegotiate it in order to be traded. He'll wait to get cut and end up somewhere that isn't NY. the 49ers absolutely are cutting Kaepernick they structured his deal so they only take $7 mil hit before April 1 which is nothing compared to $126 mil However, you act like Kaepernick has a choice. Nobody wants him as a starter unless it's a team like the jets or texans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 We should have traded Richardson to Bucs for Glennon and draft picks.. The season could have been saved imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 This. I rather Fitz for another year. I would rather do away with both. Atleast Kaep can say he's been to the SB. My problem isnt that I think Kaep sucks, I think that he's a very limited QB in regards to system. He's a very good system QB and that system no longer works in the league. Fitz is just limited all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I would rather do away with both. Atleast Kaep can say he's been to the SB. My problem isnt that I think Kaep sucks, I think that he's a very limited QB in regards to system. He's a very good system QB and that system no longer works in the league. Fitz is just limited all around. Agreed. People have to remember too that the 49ers were completely decimated & let EVERYONE go! Jet fans use to use this argument of Sanchize demise but their is NO TEAM IN THE NFL that lost more starters to cuts, trades, injury than the 49ers! My son put money on them having the 1st pick in the draft, that gambles looking pretty good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Kaep's contract is not conducive to trades. He's not going to renegotiate it in order to be traded. He'll wait to get cut and end up somewhere that isn't NY. His contract is conducive to being released. That makes it perfectly conducive to trading him. And leaves him in no position to refuse a redo of his deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The Bucs have repeatedly refused to talk to teams about Glennon, I don't know people seem to think we can pry him away from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The Bucs have repeatedly refused to talk to teams about Glennon, I don't know people seem to think we can pry him away from there. It's smart on their end. He's cheap, he's starter quality and they are starting a rookie QB that could have went south. Mike Glennon may have to play out his contract as a back up. This is what happens when you're drafted in the 3rd round. You're cheap enough to keep around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 His contract is conducive to being released. That makes it perfectly conducive to trading him. And leaves him in no position to refuse a redo of his deal. You don't understand. His contract would have to be re-done in order to be traded. He has two choices: get cut, still get his money, and pick whatever team he wants or restructure his deal and get traded to a team that best suits the 49ers needs. He could still get a decent FA deal if cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Agreed. People have to remember too that the 49ers were completely decimated & let EVERYONE go! Jet fans use to use this argument of Sanchize demise but their is NO TEAM IN THE NFL that lost more starters to cuts, trades, injury than the 49ers! My son put money on them having the 1st pick in the draft, that gambles looking pretty good right now. And their HC has changed the offense from one geared to his strengths and weaknesses to one he's not suited for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 You don't understand. His contract would have to be re-done in order to be traded. He has two choices: get cut, still get his money, and pick whatever team he wants or restructure his deal and get traded to a team that best suits the 49ers needs. He could still get a decent FA deal if cut. no you don't understand contracts. They don't owe him contract dollars if cut. He either takes a trade and redoes his deal or gets cut and has to sign a new deal. No one is trading for him if he doesn't first agree to a redo. If not he will get cut and can start from scratch. He and the 49rs have no leverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 no you don't understand contracts. They don't owe him contract dollars if cut. He either takes a trade and redoes his deal or gets cut and has to sign a new deal. No one is trading for him if he doesn't first agree to a redo. If not he will get cut and can start from scratch. He and the 49rs have no leverage I understand contracts perfectly well. They would still owe him close to 8 million dollars from the signing bonus. Read some articles on it. I even posted one in this thread. He has all of the leverage because the 49ers have to cut him by April 1st and he's not going to re-do his contract. He'll get cut, collect his bonus and then sign a decent deal with whatever team decides they want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I understand contracts perfectly well. They would still owe him close to 8 million dollars from the signing bonus. Read some articles on it. I even posted one in this thread. He has all of the leverage because the 49ers have to cut him by April 1st and he's not going to re-do his contract. He'll get cut, collect his bonus and then sign a decent deal with whatever team decides they want him. they have to pay him the 8 mil no matter what. They're not going to pay him his 8 mil and his contract to sit on the bench. They owe him too much money in salary and have to cut their losses. Everyone knows this. The 9rs are not keeping him because of signing bonus money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 no you don't understand contracts. They don't owe him contract dollars if cut. He either takes a trade and redoes his deal or gets cut and has to sign a new deal. No one is trading for him if he doesn't first agree to a redo. If not he will get cut and can start from scratch. He and the 49rs have no leverage Kaep has all the leverage. He has absolutely no incentive to redo his deal to facilitate a trade. Why should he reduce his guarantees just so his new team can give up players or picks to the 49ers for him? It would make no sense. He can sit and collect his money, or the 49ers can cut him. Once cut, he can shop his services and get the best deal from the team he most wants to join - and that team will have all its draft picks to help him succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 they have to pay him the 8 mil no matter what. They're not going to pay him his 8 mil and his contract to sit on the bench. They owe him too much money in salary and have to cut their losses. Everyone knows this. The 9rs are not keeping him because of signing bonus money I never said they were going to keep him. Not once. I don't have any clue of what point you're actually trying to make. No team is going to trade for him without a restructure. He isn't going to restructure to help a team that has treated him poorly (in his opinion). Therefore, he's just going to get cut before April 1. I'm not sure how much clearer I can make this for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Kaep has all the leverage. He has absolutely no incentive to redo his deal to facilitate a trade. Why should he reduce his guarantees just so his new team can give up players or picks to the 49ers for him? It would make no sense. He can sit and collect his money, or the 49ers can cut him. Once cut, he can shop his services and get the best deal from the team he most wants to join - and that team will have all its draft picks to help him succeed. that's what I said, Carl was saying they have all the leverage and won't trade him to a team that can't fit their needs. There's no real reason to make a trade unless you think he will be traded elsewhere and you really want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I never said they were going to keep him. Not once. I don't have any clue of what point you're actually trying to make. No team is going to trade for him without a restructure. He isn't going to restructure to help a team that has treated him poorly (in his opinion). Therefore, he's just going to get cut before April 1. I'm not sure how much clearer I can make this for you. you're not sure of what your argument is. Forget it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 you're not sure of what your argument is. Forget it You're obviously very confused. Maybe take a break and figure out your position and get back to me. The Jets are a .500 team. I've got time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The Bucs have repeatedly refused to talk to teams about Glennon, I don't know people seem to think we can pry him away from there. because Winston won't be a rookie next year and he looks legit that's why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stonehands Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Why trade for Kaepernick when we already have his identical twin in Geno Smith? Kap may have a better attitude but basically he is Geno. Because if Geno was not on the Jets and was sucking on some other team, members of this board would want him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 His contract is conducive to being released. That makes it perfectly conducive to trading him. And leaves him in no position to refuse a redo of his deal. except that he could decide not to redo his deal to the team that trades for him and go to free agency making them look somewhat silly for trading for him. It will come as a surprise, but guys aren't too excited about redoing deals where they lose money. You'd have to have an agreement in place before making the trade and right now, it's probably not a 6th rounder that gets it done from the 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I'd rather have fitz. We have kap already his name is Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Thats fine we really dont have coaches anyway Bowles is a putz Ya think One and Done from Mr. Low Key? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 except that he could decide not to redo his deal to the team that trades for him and go to free agency making them look somewhat silly for trading for him. It will come as a surprise, but guys aren't too excited about redoing deals where they lose money. You'd have to have an agreement in place before making the trade and right now, it's probably not a 6th rounder that gets it done from the 49ers. One, he's getting traded for a bag of balls. Second, you make the deal and leave a window to redo the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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