joewilly12 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Brees and Manning both scare me age and durability are major factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I have seen Brees play many times this yr and for the most part he has been bad. Had a couple of very good games, Not worth $18M a yr and with Revis getting $16M, makes no sense. Even a bad Brees is much better than we've had here in a while. But has he really been bad this year? Granted I haven't seen many Saint games, but weren't his bad games when his shoulder was bothering him? Other than those I thought he was doing good/great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Brees is done. Sounds like a perfect fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Brees and Manning both scare me age and durability are major factors. Manning definitely. Dude is a shell of his former self. Though I'd still take him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Manning definitely. Dude is a shell of his former self. Though I'd still take him too. I cant see the QB starved Jets throwing crazy money at an aging QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I have seen Brees play many times this yr and for the most part he has been bad. Had a couple of very good games, Not worth $18M a yr and with Revis getting $16M, makes no sense. if the guy is completely done then so be it, but if he can play - why not? What are the other options? Another journeyman? Give Geno another year? QB is pretty much the only thing that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I cant see the QB starved Jets throwing crazy money at an aging QB. Some would argue that'd be better than throwing 150mil (or whatever the cap is) away every season because we don't have a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I cant see the QB starved Jets throwing crazy money at an aging QB. Yeah, this franchise would never do something that foolish and short-sighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Im not all in for Brees I'm all in for the Jets having a franchise QB They have already started clearing cap space when they let Coples go. With Dee Milliner and Calvin Pace likely to follow, the Jets can get cap money enough to pay Brees. He still has enough left to get the Jets a bridge to Petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Brees is done. Yeah his 355, 359, 335, 312, 505, 387 yard games this year and his 20tds vs 9 ints indicate that. I'd go after Brees very very quickly, as usual asking cost is a factor but I'd even shed salary elsewhere to get a real Qb on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Brees and Manning both scare me age and durability are major factors. Manning is finished, but Brees is still slinging the ball like Favre did when he led the Jets to 8-3, before his arm fell off. I think Brees could bring similar results if he stays healthy. Peyton Manning however, is beat up and beat down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This guy is really poorly informed for a journalist. Kaepernick is going to get cut, there's no need to trade for him. Trading a 2nd rounder would be stupid. If you trade for Brees and his massive deal, it's going to eat up the majority of the cap room to improve the rest of the team. Same goes for Stafford. This team has many holes and trading draft picks for a 37 year old QB is ill advised. Stafford I just don't think is very good. Maybe he could improve here with a better o-line and run game. I'm just not sure how much. He has more picks than Fitz this year. yeah, unless someone else likes Kaep and doesn't want to risk losing him by letting him hit the open market. This poor guy has it right, there's a chance he does go in a trade. Brees is not getting the kind of money that eats up your cap. It will be big but short and risk free kind of deal. Like we and Minny gave Favre. Stafford is 27 and you sign him for the long term but protect yourself. Stafford has been more than good, he's been great playing in a shlt hole city and a mostly shltty and poorly run team. 5k yard seasons with 40+ TDs., things we've never been close to don't suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Yeah, this franchise would never do something that foolish and short-sighted. how is signing Brees for the short term any different than sign Fitz for the short term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Stafford has had one of the best WRs in the game his entire career in Detroit dont know how he would fair here in NY where offensive playmakers are an afterthought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Stafford has had one of the best WRs in the game his entire career in Detroit dont know how he would fair here in NY where offensive playmakers are an afterthought. Of those 2. I would take Stafford because of age and performance in cold weather. Brees with NO has struggled outside the dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#90 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 No way. Brees is 40 years old and makes 20 mill a year. Terrible idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 No way. Brees is 40 years old and makes 20 mill a year. Terrible idea! Point of Order, he will be 37 next season. IMO, it depends on the compensation NO wants to trade him. These days,with the current protection rules, QBs age well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 how is signing Brees for the short term any different than sign Fitz for the short term? Brees is 50 times better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 No way. Brees is 40 years old and makes 20 mill a year. Terrible idea! No way we would go after him at 20 mill. However he still has some years left, QB is the most important position on a team and the guys we are spenidng or will spend big dollars on are not living up to their hype. They should at least explore upgrading QB,the 1st truly worrying thing I have heard re our front office this year has been that they love what fitz is doing and want to resign him, thus making him the starter next year. I like Fitz, think he has done a good job but as an org if you are not looking to improve QBing then you are making a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 he has his money and his ring. why would he come here to have the tabloids trash him ? he will play out his deal in NO then sign as a FA with a west coast team or a dome team the saints asking price and his asking price will be absurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Gary Myers said he thinks Drew Brees can be had for a conditional 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Whats the point? This team is not a qb away from the super bowl. Brees doesnt play well outdoors. We would get marginally better but our rebuild would be put off for a few years. Start building for the future now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Gary Myers said he thinks Drew Brees can be had for a conditional 3rd round pick. Being as well we dont understand the draft it might not be a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Yeah his 355, 359, 335, 312, 505, 387 yard games this year and his 20tds vs 9 ints indicate that.I'd go after Brees very very quickly, as usual asking cost is a factor but I'd even shed salary elsewhere to get a real Qb on this team. Brees would give the Jets 3 years (less if Petty is the guy) to find and develop a QB. As Beer stated, the guy is still a very productive QB. No way the Jets would ever get that kind of production from Fitz or Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 we've been in rebuild mode for 3 decades. When in reality we just simply haven't had a QB. When you have a QB you're never rebuilding. And when you don't you're always rebuilding If you have a chance to get a QB that can win - even if he's older and even if it's for a year or two, you do it. You can still continue to draft QB's. No QB=rebuilding, good QB=continual contention all we have to do is look at the patriots for the proof. year in and year out it seems like they have lost talent....yet they are constantly winning the division and favorites for a superbowl. why? one reason. tom brady. it tells you one thing....whne you have a great quarterback you can always compete. i've had enough oif this "we are 6 players away so why would we waste money on a qb" argument. its silly and makes zero sense. once you get a quarterback....thats when you can fill in the few areas that need some upgrading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 how is signing Brees for the short term any different than sign Fitz for the short term? About $27 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I kind of hate the idea of getting a vet at the very end of his career but the reason I'd consider it is because our D is built to win in the next 2 years. After that window, this franchise will get yet another makeover. The NFL is the "not for long" league more than ever these days. Franchises can go way up or down very quickly. Rookie QBs start and are expected to produce right away. If we get Brees and if our D stays healthy and we can hopefully have a good draft next year, we could potentially be good. Having said the above, we still have BB and Brady in our division so we're probably better off just starting yet another rebuild now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 I kind of hate the idea of getting a vet at the very end of his career but the reason I'd consider it is because our D is built to win in the next 2 years. After that window, this franchise will get yet another makeover. The NFL is the "not for long" league more than ever these days. Franchises can go way up or down very quickly. Rookie QBs start and are expected to produce right away. If we get Brees and if our D stays healthy and we can hopefully have a good draft next year, we could potentially be good. Having said the above, we still have BB and Brady in our division so we're probably better off just starting yet another rebuild now. The D has been bad as of late slow LBs and a very questionable secondary and no pass rush not a Super Bowl wining D by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 No way. Brees is 40 years old and makes 20 mill a year. Terrible idea! what else do you wanna do with the $20mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Brees would give the Jets 3 years (less if Petty is the guy) to find and develop a QB. As Beer stated, the guy is still a very productive QB. No way the Jets would ever get that kind of production from Fitz or Geno. sometimes you are spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 sometimes you are spot on. It's not rocket science necky. I'm not sure the Jets have a clear-cut strategy on which direction they want to go regarding the QB position. Brees would give them time to figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Whats the point? This team is not a qb away from the super bowl. Brees doesnt play well outdoors. We would get marginally better but our rebuild would be put off for a few years. Start building for the future now. where does this idea that brees is bad outdoors come from? is he better in a dome? yes....any qb would be....especially since he plays in a dome AT HOME. it only makes sense that no adverse weather plus a home field advantage would make his numbers better in a dome. his outdoors numbers? 64% completion rate (2411/3775) td - 179 (4.7%) int - 98 (2.6%) 90.0 passer rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It's not rocket science necky. I'm not sure the Jets have a clear-cut strategy on which direction they want to go regarding the QB position. Brees would give them time to figure that out. agreed 100%. the strategy is obviously to find a young franchise qb. they dont grow on trees. if they could acquire drew brees to man the position for 3 years and (very important) to mentor any potential young franchise qb....its a no-brainer. otherwise whats our option? fitzpatrick until we find one? lol. dude is sh*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 It's hilarious that it was said we'd only get marginally better with brees at qb. Lol. Brees vs Fitzpatrick? ? We'd be infinitely better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 First of all, Screw Myers that Giant fan, Jet hating prick...Second of all, Please let us have Brees, God. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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