joewilly12 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/myers-jets-infamous-near-misses-qbs-article-1.2570416 *Daily News I cannot copy and paste my system or their s wont allow me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Marino is the one that stings the most. He was there for the taking and there was no question about his ability. He would have been the perfect successor to the Namath era and a perfect personality fit in NYC. The history of the team could have been so, so different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 a myers sh*t stain ? boooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Il Mostro said: Marino is the one that stings the most. He was there for the taking and there was no question about his ability. He would have been the perfect successor to the Namath era and a perfect personality fit in NYC. The history of the team could have been so, so different. So was Tom Brady...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: So was Tom Brady...... Brady was a fluke. A 100-1 shot that no one saw coming. Marino was obvious and a far greater pure talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 Just now, Il Mostro said: Brady was a fluke. A 100-1 shot that no one saw coming. Marino was obvious. The Patriots scouts obviously saw something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: The Patriots scouts obviously saw something. In round 6. Yeah, they were really salivating. 20-20 hindsight here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 Just now, Il Mostro said: In round 6. Yeah, they were really salivating. 20-20 hindsight here. Good teams draft well the situation is obviously very clear we haven't been to the Super Bowl in 47 years and we haven't had a franchise QB since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: The Patriots scouts obviously saw something. Yeah, they liked home so much they waited till the end of the 6th round and took him with a compensatory pick...just to show how wicked smaht the were....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 Just now, Jet_Engine1 said: Yeah, they liked home so much they waited till the end of the 6th round and took him with a compensatory pick...just to show how wicked smaht the were....lol The fact is they took him we didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The fact is they took him we didnt. Stop with the whining garbage, they took him in the 6th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Stop with the whining garbage, they took him in the 6th round. Not whining facts speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Il Mostro said: In round 6. Yeah, they were really salivating. 20-20 hindsight here. Yeah but not with the 1st of 3 6th rd picks in 2000 it wasn't till the 2nd 6th rd pick that they started to drool..LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I was too young for Marino and Manning, unfortunately, he didn't come out. We still screwed that draft up. Had Parcells not traded down, the Jets could have picked Orlando Pace, who would go on to become a hall of famer. Instead, we traded down for Farrior, waited for him to develop, then didn't bother to resign him. Brady was a fluke, everyone passed on him. Even Russell, we still had hope that Sanchez would pan out. Favre stings the most from that list. Wolf and Steinberg had targeted him and we missed out by one pick. I liked Rob Moore when he was here, but man did I wish we would have kept that first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 24 minutes ago, Il Mostro said: Marino is the one that stings the most. He was there for the taking and there was no question about his ability. He would have been the perfect successor to the Namath era and a perfect personality fit in NYC. The history of the team could have been so, so different. Remind me, how many Super Bowls did Dan Marino win, with a superior coach, superior talent and his own superior play down in Miami? The "Dan to Jets" is one of THE most overstated projectionism in NFL history. We're not winning a few Super Bowls with Dan, same way a better led, better coached, better talentd Miami team didn't win any either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 I didn't read Myers garbage but Mostro is right , it's Marino in a landslide , followed by farve/manning in whatever order you want depending on what stories you believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Remind me, how many Super Bowls did Dan Marino win, with a superior coach, superior talent and his own superior play down in Miami? The "Dan to Jets" is one of THE most overstated projectionism in NFL history. We're not winning a few Super Bowls with Dan, same way a better led, better coached, better talentd Miami team didn't win any either. Totally disagree. The Dolphin teams of the Marino era were floored. Most years they had either a poor defense or no running game. The Jets teams of the mid '80s were very talented. MeNeil & Hector at RB, Shuler at TE, Walker & Toon at WR. The Jets had tremendous talent at the skill positions. O'Brien was a statue. He was human sack machine with no football instincts. He would throw the ball away on 4th down rather than run; he never scored a rushing TD or won a post season game. Pat Ryan won the WC game in 1986, and if he didn't get injured in the devastating loss in the divisional game against the Browns the Jets would have won that game also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Totally disagree. The Dolphin teams of the Marino era were floored. Most years they had either a poor defense or no running game. The Jets teams of the mid '80s were very talented. MeNeil & Hector at RB, Shuler at TE, Walker & Toon at WR. The Jets had tremendous talent at the skill positions. O'Brien was a statue. He was human sack machine with no football instincts. He would throw the ball away on 4th down rather than run; he never scored a rushing TD or won a post season game. Pat Ryan won the WC game in 1986, and if he didn't get injured in the devastating loss in the divisional game against the Browns the Jets would have won that game also. Agreed , I get the no Super Bowls argument but the reality is the guy was an all time great QB that was drafted the very next pick by a division rival 10 seconds after we drafted a mediocre QB...an epic draft blunder any way you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, Jolot said: I didn't read Myers garbage but Mostro is right , it's Marino in a landslide , followed by farve/manning in whatever order you want depending on what stories you believe Absolutely, agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Is there something wrong with your computer? It's pretty easy to paste this stuff. As Ryan Fitzpatrick saga drags on here are some of the Jets' infamous near-misses with QBs Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images Ryan Fitzpatrick is not impressed with the offer on the table from the Jets. It’s almost time to wish the Jets a very Happy Silver Anniversary. In just two years, they will be celebrating the 50th anniversary of their only championship season. In all these years since Super Bowl III, no team has experienced more misery and near-misses at quarterback than the Jets, which explains why their Vince Lombardi Trophy is still sitting by itself. The contract stalemate between Ryan Fitzpatrick, a journeyman coming off a career year, and GM Mike Maccagnan, who doesn’t want to bid against himself, would be comical if the thought of Geno Smith regaining his starting job wasn’t so frightening and mortifying for Jets Nation. The Jets should pay Fitz a premium just so Maccagnan doesn’t even have to address questions about Smith being the starter. Of course, Fitz, asking for $14 million per year, and the Jets, offering $7 million-$8 million per year, will eventually compromise and get a deal done. He has no better place to go and the Jets have no better options. It’s really gut-wrenching how close the Jets have come to drafting Hall of Fame quarterbacks in the last 32 years and all they’ve managed is trading for Brett Favre when he had already played 17 years and then broke down in the final month of his only season with them. Just once, the Jets deserve a break. Consider all this misfortune: Bob Martin/Getty Images Dan Marino Dan Marino: He was expected to be the second QB taken in 1983 behind John Elway. But a poor senior year and unfounded drug rumors resulted in him falling almost all the way out of the first round. Jets draftniks at the New York Sheraton were virtually jumping out of the balcony in anticipation with Marino still on the board when it was the Jets’ turn at No. 24. Richard Todd had just thrown five INTs in the AFC title game loss in Miami. When Pete Rozelle stepped up to announce the Jets’ pick, it was indeed a QB: Ken O’Brien of Cal-Davis. Marino went to the Dolphins three picks later. Oops. O’Brien was a good player. Marino is an-all time great. Brett Favre: The Jets had him as the No. 1 player on their 1991 draft board. Ron Wolf, the assistant Jets GM, loved him, but the Jets didn’t have a first-round pick — they used it in the supplemental draft in 1990 to take wide receiver Rob Moore. But then Favre started falling toward the end of the first round and GM Dick Steinberg frantically tried to trade up. The Jets had the No. 34 pick, seventh overall in the second round. Steinberg knew Falcons GM Ken Herock, a close friend, also loved Favre, even though he passed on him twice in the first round. Atlanta had the No. 33 pick. Steinberg worked out a deal with the Cardinals, who were one spot ahead of the Falcons, to flip spots. The Cards wanted DE Mike Jones and Steinberg assured them the Falcons would take QB Browning Nagle if the Jets took Favre. So it was a no-lose deal for the Cardinals — they would get Jones and an extra draft pick to swap. At the last second, the Cards pulled out of the trade and drafted Jones. Atlanta then took Favre and the Jets were stuck with Nagle. The Cardinals never told Steinberg why they backed out. Jamie Squire/Getty Images Peyton Manning Peyton Manning: This one really hurts. Archie Manning twice called Bill Parcells, at the request of Peyton, to see if he was going to take his son with the No. 1 pick in the 1997 draft. Peyton was in the process of trying to decide whether to skip his senior year at Tennessee. He didn’t want to declare for the draft with no option if Parcells traded the choice. He wanted to play for Parcells and the Jets. But Parcells would not commit, the final determining factor that convinced Manning to stay in school. Tom Brady: The Jets drafted QB Chad Pennington with the third of their record four picks in the first round in 2000. Even so, Jets Midwest scout Jesse Kaye implored Parcells to also take Brady, the skinny QB from Michigan, in the sixth round. Parcells refused to take another QB. He took DB Tony Scott, who lasted two years with the Jets, playing in 23 games with no starts, at No. 19 overall in the sixth round. Twenty spots later, with the 199th pick, Bill Belichick drafted Brady. He was the seventh QB drafted and the seventh player taken by Belichick. Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images Russell Wilson Russell Wilson: Jets scout Terry Bradway loved Wilson so much in the 2012 draft they nicknamed him “Russell” around the office. In the first round, the Jets took Quinton Coples. In the second round, Stephen Hill. Two spots before they drafted Demario Davis in the third round, Seattle took Wilson. The Jets had just given Mark Sanchez a contract extension as a kiss-and-make-up present after flirting with free agent Manning, so chances are they would not have taken Wilson in the third round either. So, after passing on Marino, losing out on Favre, failing to recruit Manning, passing on Brady and Wilson, the Jets must pay a tariff to bring back Fitzpatrick and keep Smith off the field. FAME GAME Players are eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame after they’ve been out of the game five seasons. It will be very competitive getting elected to the class of 2021 with the list of players who retired after the 2015 season including Manning, Charles Woodson and Calvin Johnson. Manning and Woodson came into the league together in 1998 — Woodson beat out Manning for the Heisman Trophy in their senior years — and are locks to make it on their first year of eligibility. Johnson was a dominant player on bad teams — just two playoff seasons in his nine years in the league. He walked away early, just like former Lions RB Barry Sanders. He is a HOF receiver, but depending on who else is still on the board in 2021, he may not make it his first year. There were some other big names who retired in the last couple of months: Marshawn Lynch, Justin Tuck, Jared Allen, Heath Miller, Logan Mankins, Matt Hasselbeck, Jon Beason and Jerod Mayo. ... The Jets had to bring back Darrelle Revis last year, even if he was then a 30-year cornerback. Revis had to take the offer rather than stay with the Super Bowl champion Patriots because it had $39 million guaranteed in the first three years and New England wasn’t even close with its offer. Advantage: Revis. He had a so-so year and now is in a hard cast for 2-3 months after having surgery for torn ligament in his wrist. This is another example of why big money contracts are so dangerous. MEETING OF MINDS The league meetings open Sunday in Boca Raton. The concussion crisis and continuing efforts to make a dangerous game safer will be a major topic... Martellus Bennett, a true free spirit, was entertaining in his one season with the Giants in 2012 and they should have made more of an effort to keep him. He played well enough for them with 55 catches — Eli Manning liked throwing to him — to get a four-year $20.4 million deal with the Bears. Now after three seasons in Chicago — he had a career-best 90 catches in 2014 — he will play the last year of his contract ($5.085 million) teaming with Gronk in New England after Belichick gave up just a fourth-round pick to get him. Gronk is 6-6, 265. Bennett is 6-6, 273. “I think Gronk has always been an awesome tight end and I look forward to learning more about him,” Bennett said. Belichick loves tight ends and now he can return to the plan he had before Aaron Hernandez was thrown in jail for murder. If Bennett doesn’t become brainwashed by the Patriot Way, he should liven up the locker room. Bennett posted a message to Brady on social media: “Hi Tom. I’m Marty. Let’s do this.”... Belichick completed a surprising trade last week when he sent Chandler Jones, his best pass rusher, to the Cardinals for guard Jonathan Cooper, a disappointing former first-round pick, and a second-round pick in next month’s draft. Jones is in the final year of his rookie contract and rather than pay him huge money (read: Olivier Vernon’s 5-year, $52.5M guaranteed) next year or lose him for nothing, Belichick traded him knowing there would be a big market for him. ONE COLD DRAFT Incredibly, the Giants and Jets each bombed in the 2012 draft, going a combined 0-for 15. Four seasons later, none of the Giants’ seven picks or the Jets’ eight picks are on their rosters... Nice move by Colts owner Jimmy Irsay bringing Peyton Manning back to Indy on Friday and announcing that a statue of him will be built outside Lucas Oil Stadium, and that his No. 18 jersey is retired. Manning’s departure from Indy four years ago was contentious. The setup in football is that players don’t get to pick a team they will represent when they go into the Hall of Fame. Manning played 12 seasons in Indy (not counting 2011 when he was injured and didn’t play at all) and four in Denver. He was 1-1 in the Super Bowl with each team. He became a star in Indy, but will be remembered as a Bronco, too. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fitzpatrick is not impressed with the offer on the table from the Jets. It’s almost time to wish the Jets a very Happy Silver Anniversary. In just two years, they will be celebrating the 50th anniversary of their only championship season. In all these years since Super Bowl III, no team has experienced more misery and near-misses at quarterback than the Jets, which explains why their Vince Lombardi Trophy is still sitting by itself. The contract stalemate between Ryan Fitzpatrick, a journeyman coming off a career year, and GM Mike Maccagnan, who doesn’t want to bid against himself, would be comical if the thought of Geno Smith regaining his starting job wasn’t so frightening and mortifying for Jets Nation. The Jets should pay Fitz a premium just so Maccagnan doesn’t even have to address questions about Smith being the starter. Of course, Fitz, asking for $14 million per year, and the Jets, offering $7 million-$8 million per year, will eventually compromise and get a deal done. He has no better place to go and the Jets have no better options. It’s really gut-wrenching how close the Jets have come to drafting Hall of Fame quarterbacks in the last 32 years and all they’ve managed is trading for Brett Favre when he had already played 17 years and then broke down in the final month of his only season with them. Just once, the Jets deserve a break. Consider all this misfortune: Bob Martin/Getty Images Dan Marino Dan Marino: He was expected to be the second QB taken in 1983 behind John Elway. But a poor senior year and unfounded drug rumors resulted in him falling almost all the way out of the first round. Jets draftniks at the New York Sheraton were virtually jumping out of the balcony in anticipation with Marino still on the board when it was the Jets’ turn at No. 24. Richard Todd had just thrown five INTs in the AFC title game loss in Miami. When Pete Rozelle stepped up to announce the Jets’ pick, it was indeed a QB: Ken O’Brien of Cal-Davis. Marino went to the Dolphins three picks later. Oops. O’Brien was a good player. Marino is an-all time great. Brett Favre: The Jets had him as the No. 1 player on their 1991 draft board. Ron Wolf, the assistant Jets GM, loved him, but the Jets didn’t have a first-round pick — they used it in the supplemental draft in 1990 to take wide receiver Rob Moore. But then Favre started falling toward the end of the first round and GM Dick Steinberg frantically tried to trade up. The Jets had the No. 34 pick, seventh overall in the second round. Steinberg knew Falcons GM Ken Herock, a close friend, also loved Favre, even though he passed on him twice in the first round. Atlanta had the No. 33 pick. Steinberg worked out a deal with the Cardinals, who were one spot ahead of the Falcons, to flip spots. The Cards wanted DE Mike Jones and Steinberg assured them the Falcons would take QB Browning Nagle if the Jets took Favre. So it was a no-lose deal for the Cardinals — they would get Jones and an extra draft pick to swap. At the last second, the Cards pulled out of the trade and drafted Jones. Atlanta then took Favre and the Jets were stuck with Nagle. The Cardinals never told Steinberg why they backed out. Jamie Squire/Getty Images Peyton Manning Peyton Manning: This one really hurts. Archie Manning twice called Bill Parcells, at the request of Peyton, to see if he was going to take his son with the No. 1 pick in the 1997 draft. Peyton was in the process of trying to decide whether to skip his senior year at Tennessee. He didn’t want to declare for the draft with no option if Parcells traded the choice. He wanted to play for Parcells and the Jets. But Parcells would not commit, the final determining factor that convinced Manning to stay in school. Tom Brady: The Jets drafted QB Chad Pennington with the third of their record four picks in the first round in 2000. Even so, Jets Midwest scout Jesse Kaye implored Parcells to also take Brady, the skinny QB from Michigan, in the sixth round. Parcells refused to take another QB. He took DB Tony Scott, who lasted two years with the Jets, playing in 23 games with no starts, at No. 19 overall in the sixth round. Twenty spots later, with the 199th pick, Bill Belichick drafted Brady. He was the seventh QB drafted and the seventh player taken by Belichick. Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images Russell Wilson Russell Wilson: Jets scout Terry Bradway loved Wilson so much in the 2012 draft they nicknamed him “Russell” around the office. In the first round, the Jets took Quinton Coples. In the second round, Stephen Hill. Two spots before they drafted Demario Davis in the third round, Seattle took Wilson. The Jets had just given Mark Sanchez a contract extension as a kiss-and-make-up present after flirting with free agent Manning, so chances are they would not have taken Wilson in the third round either. So, after passing on Marino, losing out on Favre, failing to recruit Manning, passing on Brady and Wilson, the Jets must pay a tariff to bring back Fitzpatrick and keep Smith off the field. FAME GAME Players are eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame after they’ve been out of the game five seasons. It will be very competitive getting elected to the class of 2021 with the list of players who retired after the 2015 season including Manning, Charles Woodson and Calvin Johnson. Manning and Woodson came into the league together in 1998 — Woodson beat out Manning for the Heisman Trophy in their senior years — and are locks to make it on their first year of eligibility. Johnson was a dominant player on bad teams — just two playoff seasons in his nine years in the league. He walked away early, just like former Lions RB Barry Sanders. He is a HOF receiver, but depending on who else is still on the board in 2021, he may not make it his first year. There were some other big names who retired in the last couple of months: Marshawn Lynch, Justin Tuck, Jared Allen, Heath Miller, Logan Mankins, Matt Hasselbeck, Jon Beason and Jerod Mayo. ... The Jets had to bring back Darrelle Revis last year, even if he was then a 30-year cornerback. Revis had to take the offer rather than stay with the Super Bowl champion Patriots because it had $39 million guaranteed in the first three years and New England wasn’t even close with its offer. Advantage: Revis. He had a so-so year and now is in a hard cast for 2-3 months after having surgery for torn ligament in his wrist. This is another example of why big money contracts are so dangerous. MEETING OF MINDS The league meetings open Sunday in Boca Raton. The concussion crisis and continuing efforts to make a dangerous game safer will be a major topic... Martellus Bennett, a true free spirit, was entertaining in his one season with the Giants in 2012 and they should have made more of an effort to keep him. He played well enough for them with 55 catches — Eli Manning liked throwing to him — to get a four-year $20.4 million deal with the Bears. Now after three seasons in Chicago — he had a career-best 90 catches in 2014 — he will play the last year of his contract ($5.085 million) teaming with Gronk in New England after Belichick gave up just a fourth-round pick to get him. Gronk is 6-6, 265. Bennett is 6-6, 273. “I think Gronk has always been an awesome tight end and I look forward to learning more about him,” Bennett said. Belichick loves tight ends and now he can return to the plan he had before Aaron Hernandez was thrown in jail for murder. If Bennett doesn’t become brainwashed by the Patriot Way, he should liven up the locker room. Bennett posted a message to Brady on social media: “Hi Tom. I’m Marty. Let’s do this.”... Belichick completed a surprising trade last week when he sent Chandler Jones, his best pass rusher, to the Cardinals for guard Jonathan Cooper, a disappointing former first-round pick, and a second-round pick in next month’s draft. Jones is in the final year of his rookie contract and rather than pay him huge money (read: Olivier Vernon’s 5-year, $52.5M guaranteed) next year or lose him for nothing, Belichick traded him knowing there would be a big market for him. ONE COLD DRAFT Incredibly, the Giants and Jets each bombed in the 2012 draft, going a combined 0-for 15. Four seasons later, none of the Giants’ seven picks or the Jets’ eight picks are on their rosters... Nice move by Colts owner Jimmy Irsay bringing Peyton Manning back to Indy on Friday and announcing that a statue of him will be built outside Lucas Oil Stadium, and that his No. 18 jersey is retired. Manning’s departure from Indy four years ago was contentious. The setup in football is that players don’t get to pick a team they will represent when they go into the Hall of Fame. Manning played 12 seasons in Indy (not counting 2011 when he was injured and didn’t play at all) and four in Denver. He was 1-1 in the Super Bowl with each team. He became a star in Indy, but will be remembered as a Bronco, too. I
Fed Hill Jet Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 36 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Yeah, they liked home so much they waited till the end of the 6th round and took him with a compensatory pick...just to show how wicked smaht the were....lol I still contend that any reasonably smart and talented quarterback who develops their skills by being able to memorize videotaped defensive signals and align then with the play on the field will have a significantly shorter learning curve to master the mental part of the game that most quarterbacks struggle with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 So was Tom Brady...... 6 different times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Fed Hill Jet said: I still contend that any reasonably smart and talented quarterback who develops their skills by being able to memorize videotaped defensive signals and align then with the play on the field will have a significantly shorter learning curve to master the mental part of the game that most quarterbacks struggle with. What you fail to take into consideration is the player on the other end of the thrown football . The QB and his intended receiver must see the same thing and react to what they both see in the same manner. Rookie WRs now learning an offense can't do that or are not as skilled at it as veteran WRs . Veteran QBs won't take certain chances with younger WRs as they will with more established WRs . All INTs are not the fault of the QB and sometimes even when the QB is at fault, one can make an argument that he was trying to give his supposed playmaker a chance to make a play for him . If this position was so easy to play, the great Peyton Manning would not still hold the NFL record for INTs in a single season following his rookie season . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Yeah, they liked home so much they waited till the end of the 6th round and took him with a compensatory pick...just to show how wicked smaht the were....lol BB and the Pats didn't want to pay him early round money. They knew he'd still be there in the 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: BB and the Pats didn't want to pay him early round money. They knew he'd still be there in the 6th. Sure. You think a guy is going to be a star QB and you risk letting him ride in the draft until the sixth. Makes total sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: Sure. You think a guy is going to be a star QB and you risk letting him ride in the draft until the sixth. Makes total sense. LOL, PatsTroll, trollers gonna troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: The Patriots scouts obviously saw something. 1 hour ago, Il Mostro said: In round 6. Yeah, they were really salivating. 20-20 hindsight here. Its funny though, I dont think anyone (even the pats) thought that Brady was anything special, especially after his combine. However, I seen a documentary on Brady and it showed alot of his college work and the first thing that came to mind was "How in the world did this guy fall to the 6th round"? Im not saying he should have went top 3, but this dude was a baller on the field. The entire NFL culture fell asleep on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Il Mostro said: Marino is the one that stings the most. He was there for the taking and there was no question about his ability. He would have been the perfect successor to the Namath era and a perfect personality fit in NYC. The history of the team could have been so, so different. No guarantee Marino is Marino in a different situation. You can say that for any of them. That's why this type topic doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: The Patriots scouts obviously saw something. All they saw was that he was better than Tim Rattay and 4 other guys who basically never played at the pro level at all. They also saw that he wasn't worth the 21st pick in round 6, which they also had, and felt he was less worthy of the 187th pick than Antwan Harris. They saw he was worth a 6th round comp pick, which is basically a 7th round pick. Someone was going to take him eventually. Sucks that it was NE. At least we ended up with Tony Scott earlier that round. He did intercept Damon Huard once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 30 minutes ago, aec4 said: No guarantee Marino is Marino in a different situation. You can say that for any of them. That's why this type topic doesn't work. On the Fins Marino had 2 short W/R's and no RB on the Jets he would have had Toon,Walker,Mickey Shuler and Freeman plus the sack exchange D.. Many great QB's have been on other teams and performed fine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 No Jeff Blake mention?!?! He put up better numbers than any of our 1990's QBs while he played for Cincy & New Orleans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 21 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: No Jeff Blake mention?!?! He put up better numbers than any of our 1990's QBs while he played for Cincy & New Orleans. Thanks, Idzik. (Am I doing this right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 3 hours ago, aec4 said: No guarantee Marino is Marino in a different situation. You can say that for any of them. That's why this type topic doesn't work. Highly doubtful that he turns into another guy if he was with the Jets. This is the same kind of argument as "if your mother had balls, she'd be your father". Too abstract and obtuse to hold any water. Marino was a great QB, period. Marino would have been Marino on any team, simply by virtue of his ability. As others have pointed out, those Dolphins teams were not exactly stacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jett Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 If only we were as lucky of letting mark Sanchez miss us, instead Tannenbaum traded up for him.... Speaking of which, anyone else can't believe how little it took to actually move up to grab Sanchez? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only decent player we gave up was Kenyon Coleman We swapped firsts (17 to 5th), a 2nd round pick (52nd) Abram Elam (heh remember this guy? He always seemed to make a big play. People loved him) , Brett Ratliff (heh remember this guy? Always seem to make big plays in preseason) and Kenyon Coleman (ok he was a solid player) Idk just seems to me that today it would cost more. I know people point to the Mangini factor there but still seems kind of light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan719 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Why do i sense when we finally find a franchise qb, we will ultimately lose him in free agency years later, just beacuse its the jet way Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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