jetscrazey Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 It was a bad choice of game plan by the coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 3 hours ago, bitonti said: for all the s--t Jets fans like to talk about Rex, he gets his team prepared for what other cities would consider meaningless games, and he knows the Jets better than Bowles. He owned our asses last year. put it another way if Rex was the coach when the team got swept by the bills and missed the playoffs, we'd run him out of town on a rail Rex was the coach when the team got swept by the Bills, though. Rex does have a tendency to come up big in the "meaningless" games, to bad the same wasn't said about the meaningful ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffyD Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Colon didn't say the Jets were unprepared, he said the Bills were more prepared. Big difference. And the Pitt game still stings, that Jets team was very much unprepared to start the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Also, and no one likes to hear this. We lost to the Bills not because we were unprepared, but because we match up very poorly against them. Just as we did the season before when Rex was the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, gEYno said: Also, and no one likes to hear this. We lost to the Bills not because we were unprepared, but because we match up very poorly against them. Just as we did the season before when Rex was the coach. Also the offense seemed to shut down whenever Bilal Powell was out of the lineup, as he was in both games against the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Go **** yourself Colon. So sick of this guy. You don't like hearing the truth? That game was more on Bowles than it was on Fitz. How can a team be so totally unprepared for a win-and-in game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, gEYno said: Rex was the coach when the team got swept by the Bills, though. Rex does have a tendency to come up big in the "meaningless" games, to bad the same wasn't said about the meaningful ones. again, how do you get to 2 conf title games w/o winning meaningful games? 4 minutes ago, gEYno said: Also, and no one likes to hear this. We lost to the Bills not because we were unprepared, but because we match up very poorly against them. Just as we did the season before when Rex was the coach. one team looked spooked by the wind, the other it didn't affect at all. we were outplayed and outcoached. It was an embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, nyjunc said: again, how do you get to 2 conf title games w/o winning meaningful games? one team looked spooked by the wind, the other it didn't affect at all. we were outplayed and outcoached. It was an embarrassment. No one suggested that Rex never won a meaningful game. But, the team got drubbed when it counted most in back to back years. Also, I guess Bowles forgot to have the "don't be afraid of the wind" meeting. Rex was all about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 You don't like hearing the truth? That game was more on Bowles than it was on Fitz. How can a team be so totally unprepared for a win-and-in game? They came out flat and looked unprepared. I'm not arguing with his point. That doesn't change the fact that I'm sick of Colon's mouth. He's not even on the team and was drawing personal fouls in a sun cap on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Just now, gEYno said: No one suggested that Rex never won a meaningful game. But, the team got drubbed when it counted most in back to back years. Also, I guess Bowles forgot to have the "don't be afraid of the wind" meeting. Rex was all about that. I wouldn't say drubbed, we led Indy in the 2nd half and then we were w/in a score w/ plenty of time to play at Pitt. you think it was coincidence that the wind affected us and not them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, nyjunc said: I wouldn't say drubbed, we led Indy in the 2nd half and then we were w/in a score w/ plenty of time to play at Pitt. you think it was coincidence that the wind affected us and not them? No, I'm conceding the point. Obviously Rex had a wind meeting. Probably even consulted with Al Roker. Bowles was too stupid to think of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, gEYno said: No, I'm conceding the point. Obviously Rex had a wind meeting. Probably even consulted with Al Roker. Bowles was too stupid to think of this. Too stupid? Maybe he was just too busy making shrimp sandwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Too stupid? Maybe he was just too busy making shrimp sandwich. This is the Jets, not New Orleans... We're not supposed to be eating shrimp sandwiches and embarrassingly unprepared for the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 f u guys and your bad mouthing of shrimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 you think it was coincidence that the wind affected us and not them? Taylor has an NFL arm, Fitz doesn't. It was quite obvious that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: Taylor has an NFL arm, Fitz doesn't. It was quite obvious that day. I agree but it wasn't just the QBs, it was the kicking game too. our team didn't look ready to play and Buffalo did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I agree but it wasn't just the QBs, it was the kicking game too. our team didn't look ready to play and Buffalo did. Like I said earlier, that game was 100% on Bowles. Fitz was just the scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Firing coaches every 5 years is not a winning formula. It just lowers the fan outrage briefly. I know that's like your favorite thing ever but let's be honest the difference between a Rex and a Bowles isn't as great as people believe. The elite players dictate the outcomes in these games. not the coaches. "Getting the team prepared" is just some word salad. unless they are blatantly cheating like Belly (or absolutely incompetent like Rich Kotite, or Chip Kelly running the same play over and over), there's not much that can be done. Firing a bad coach is good practice at five years or five minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 A significant factor in week 17 was that the Jets had no answer when Revis showed he could not get it done in man coverage. My recollection is it since came out he was hurt, but why no Plan B? Could be a roster factor. It wasn't all on Fitz at all, but how much of the problems with Revis were lack of in game adjustments rather than game prep? THat's the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 bowles is stubborn. his plan was getting ripped to pieces and he refused to adjust. the adjustments were obvious, he stubbornly refused to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 9 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Firing a bad coach is good practice at five years or five minutes. if the coach is historically bad like Kotite, sure. If he's over his head like Chip Kelly, why not. But I don't see Rex as a bad coach, nor Bowles. They are good defensive coaches who will go as far as their best players take them. Or in other words like almost every other coach, ever. Belly was a failure until Brady figured out all those ways to cheat. Bill Parcells didn't win sh*t until LT showed up. coaches coach and players play. The coaches don't really factor into it. Not as much as people believe. And the salaries paid to a coach vs a QB reflect that truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 4 hours ago, bitonti said: for all the s--t Jets fans like to talk about Rex, he gets his team prepared for what other cities would consider meaningless games, and he knows the Jets better than Bowles. He owned our asses last year. put it another way if Rex was the coach when the team got swept by the bills and missed the playoffs, we'd run him out of town on a rail Perhaps... But I don't know a single JETS fan who thinks Bowles did a great job. He is a rookie HC who in my view, under whelmed on the sideline from XXXs and OOOs. His demeanor and quiet resolve were welcome but REXs coaching wasn't his downfall as much as his inability to manage an entire team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, bitonti said: if the coach is historically bad like Kotite, sure. If he's over his head like Chip Kelly, why not. But I don't see Rex as a bad coach, nor Bowles. They are good defensive coaches who will go as far as their best players take them. Or in other words like almost every other coach, ever. Belly was a failure until Brady figured out all those ways to cheat. Bill Parcells didn't win sh*t until LT showed up. coaches coach and players play. The coaches don't really factor into it. Not as much as people believe. And the salaries paid to a coach vs a QB reflect that truth. I agree for the most part but BP inherited LT, LT was a rookie in '81 and BP took over in '83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 24 minutes ago, bitonti said: if the coach is historically bad like Kotite, sure. If he's over his head like Chip Kelly, why not. But I don't see Rex as a bad coach, nor Bowles. They are good defensive coaches who will go as far as their best players take them. Or in other words like almost every other coach, ever. Belly was a failure until Brady figured out all those ways to cheat. Bill Parcells didn't win sh*t until LT showed up. coaches coach and players play. The coaches don't really factor into it. Not as much as people believe. And the salaries paid to a coach vs a QB reflect that truth. Rex was an ignoramus with a ton of red flags coming in. Despite the quick start, he was a bad hire. Bowles, at least, acts like a head coach. I don't think he should be fired, obviously, and there's plenty to like, but he has plenty to prove next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 5 hours ago, bitonti said: for all the s--t Jets fans like to talk about Rex, he gets his team prepared for what other cities would consider meaningless games, and he knows the Jets better than Bowles. He owned our asses last year. put it another way if Rex was the coach when the team got swept by the bills and missed the playoffs, we'd run him out of town on a rail More like almost every normal person will give a rookie HC who had a better record than the season before, the benefit of the doubt. You like to non-chalantly antagonize. I love your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 We all watched the game. It was pretty damn apparent. Surprised it took this long for someone to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The problem with the Jets D in this matchup is they don't have the edge speed to make Tyrod Taylor a pocket passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 2 hours ago, bitonti said: if the coach is historically bad like Kotite, sure. If he's over his head like Chip Kelly, why not. But I don't see Rex as a bad coach, nor Bowles. They are good defensive coaches who will go as far as their best players take them. Or in other words like almost every other coach, ever. Belly was a failure until Brady figured out all those ways to cheat. Bill Parcells didn't win sh*t until LT showed up. coaches coach and players play. The coaches don't really factor into it. Not as much as people believe. And the salaries paid to a coach vs a QB reflect that truth. LT was a All Pro from his rookie year 1981 when the Tuna was just the DC he wasn't the HC till 1983 when they went 3-12-1.. BB actually had a good year in 94 went 11-5 and knocked out the Pats in the 1st rd of the playoffs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 The good news is, the Jets remain undefeated in games where they were not "unprepared" nor did they "come out flat." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Our punter came out flat that game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Should have kept Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 6 hours ago, JiF said: On the reals, So. *******. Gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 NO NO NO it's all on Fitz come on Calon haven't you bin paying attention to this board. Dam it's Fitz the bum. Don't know what has come over me. Actually think Fitz is the best fit. Must have bin reading to many post and stopped thinking. Sorry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 4 hours ago, gEYno said: This is the Jets, not New Orleans... We're not supposed to be eating shrimp sandwiches and embarrassingly unprepared for the weather. Clearly you didn't get the reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 We'll see what Bowles learned from this. Truth is, Rex took his lunch twice. I'm not even a passionate Rex supporter. I thought it was time for him to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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