Is Jarvis Jenkins long for the Jets roster

[32EBoozer]

3 hours ago, Lith said:

According to the over the cap article, as long as a player is cut before week 10, he does not count in the comp pick calculation. If Sheldon serves a suspension, comes back and we have adequate depth along the DL, it could be a consideration.  From the article referenced above:

 

 

9 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Pretty sure if he's on the opening day roster then it cancels out the pick (even if he's cut 1 day later).

This is interesting! 2 posters whom I have great admiration for have 2 different views on Jenkins.

[detectivekimble]

4 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Some days I wake up and come here and I'm just like man, I can't wait to hear what a Raiders fan or Pats fan thinks about the Jets roster.

Now, while I was of the mind that this guy should have never been signed and they should have just brought back Leger Douzable, the fact of the matter is the Jets aren't cutting this guy. Why? Because if Sheldon gets suspended, they'll need him. If Wilk holds out, they'll need him. If anyone gets hurt, they'll need him. There is no current depth behind Jenkins. The only way this changes at all is if they bring back Douzable or even Bowen at a veteran's minimum before or during training camp. Cutting this guy and incurring that dead money on the cap would show that MM made a mistake. I don't think you'll see that at all.

But, you know, Raiders fans know best about Jets roster manipulations.

This is the real head scratcher, especially since Jenkins isn't any good.

[jett]

37 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Jenkins was drafted in the third round and he isn't talking about our rookie OLB. That's Jarvis Jenkins. He's talking about Jarvis Jones.. The back up DE we signed. He has to be. This is the most idiotic post ever lol.???

Ugh I'm stupid! I mixed him up with Jordan Jenkins 

[Greenseed4]

Macc drafted a player with a credit card, then calmed a fan-base (known to overreact), by saying he's getting a Christmas bonus. 

If the player turns out great, he's a genius. If not, he chalks it up to a miscalculation or passes the buck to the comp committee. 

Either way, he deflected the initial outrage which was his intention, and added OL depth which would've been his second strike. 

Count me in for voting him exec of the year, two years running, just for dealing with us fans. 

[detectivekimble]

34 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Jenkins was drafted in the third round and he isn't talking about our rookie OLB. That's Jarvis Jenkins. He's talking about Jarvis Jones.. The back up DE we signed. He has to be. This is the most idiotic post ever lol.???

I thought Jordan Jenkins was the rookie OLB and Jarvis Jenkins is the DE.  This is all so ******* confusing.

[Patriot Killa]

I don't see how people can dislike our GM's moves. I really love this guy. So professional, calculates his moves extremely well and doesn't give the media any ammunition. He is level headed and understands how to deal with the NY fan base. The guy is nearly flawless as a general manager and we still have fans who are ungrateful. Let's go back to the tanny days and make big splashy moves in FA until we can't afford it anymore or we no longer have draft picks. Look at the Dolphins,Browns, Bucs.. They all have incompetent staff... Meaning a title is far away. We have the first step an organization that we can put trust into to actually make good football decisions. I know one thing if Bowles doesn't stick...which I think he does, we atleast have a very competent GM. I'm sure of that. He hasn't showed me ONE sign of not being about to run this team and it's been two offseason a since he took reign.

[Sperm Edwards]

42 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

 

This is interesting! 2 posters whom I have great admiration for have 2 different views on Jenkins.

If the reason he was getting signed is because Macc knows Sheldon's getting suspended, that would make the Jenkins situation different. But then it makes shopping Wilkerson a head-scratcher. Unless, I suppose, he figured he'd surely have a buyer for Mo AND knew Sheldon was getting suspended, in which case the only thing he misjudged was the market for Wilkerson. No matter how it's sliced, there's something that isn't adding up.

Initially I figured it was purely because of Mo. No-Mo means he needs a 3rd stringer and they like Jenkins. It's just a head-scratcher for a team to effectively say, "We're not content with Leger Douzable as our possible-3rd/possible-4th string DE-DT," and then turn around and say, "We're content going into the season with Geno Smith as our starting QB if we can't re-sign Fitzpatrick."

[Larz]

We need to get dick curl in here to teach Macc Gm'ing

[Saul Goodman]

"We talkin' bout comp picks??"

 

[derp]

2 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

Jenkins was drafted in the third round and he isn't talking about our rookie OLB. That's Jarvis Jenkins. He's talking about Jarvis Jones.. The back up DE we signed. He has to be. This is the most idiotic post ever lol.???

Jarvis Jenkins is the backup DE Maccagnan signed. Jordan Jenkins is the rookie OLB Maccagnan drafted in the third round. Jarvis Jones is a completely different former Georgia linebacker who got drafted in the first round by the Steelers a few years back.

[Patriot Killa]

2 minutes ago, derp said:

Jarvis Jenkins is the backup DE Maccagnan signed. Jordan Jenkins is the rookie OLB Maccagnan drafted in the third round. Jarvis Jones is a completely different former Georgia linebacker who got drafted in the first round by the Steelers a few years back.

Thanks

[Jet Nut]

3 hours ago, Mainejet said:

Mac sucks and he's personally flushing this team down the toilet.

How would you know?

You hate every move no matter who makes them.  

[JetBlue]

10 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

You don't like this team. Because if you did then you wouldn't be so quick to post negitive things. We are all holding our breath but we see the good in what Mac has done. I could tell from first vibes that Mac was professional and we finally had a good one. Just because he does some things that you don't like...which by the way your opinion doesn't matter..but just because he does some things you don't like doesn't mean he is running anything into the ground. I wish posters like you would just find new teams if you forever are going to bitch about what the Jets do as a unit. Find a team that suits your way of thinking better. How about the Browns? Maybe the Titans?

Man I could not say it better, I mean this guy just complains and bitches about everything. I know he is praying and hoping Darron Lee busts so he can be right.   There are plenty of guys who may not like every move Macc has made; but DAMN!  ENOUGH with the bitching already!  Man up and give the team a chance; there will be plenty time later to say "I told you so".  In the mean time can we just relax and see what kind of team we have once they actually get on the field? 

[JetBlue]

I guess it depends on who you listen to....  The voice of reason from.... Cimini of all people!

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Three sneaky good moves that could help Jets in 2016

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The New York Jets certainly have made a few splashy moves this offseason, from Matt Forte to Ryan Clady, but sometimes it's the unheralded transactions that prove to be the wisest.

My top three underrated moves for the Jets:

Jarvis Jenkins (96) adds value to the Jets because of his scheme flexibility and experience. Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images

1. Jarvis Jenkins, defensive end: You're probably thinking, "The last thing the Jets needed was another defensive lineman." There might be some truth to that, but Jenkins has value because of his scheme versatility and experience. The 2011 second-round pick (Washington Redskins) hasn't produced much as a starter (only six career sacks), but he won't be asked to start for the Jets. Right now, he projects as the fifth man in the defensive-line rotation, an upgrade overLeger Douzable, last season's No. 5. Jenkins' role figures to increase if Sheldon Richardson begins the season on a suspension, which is possible. Jenkins didn't come cheaply (two years, $6 million), so the Jets obviously believe he can give them quality off the bench.

2. Khiry Robinson, running back: The Jets picked him up as a non-tendered free agent from the New Orleans Saints, signing him to a one-year, $1.2 million contract. Robinson is an underrated talent who has the size (6-feet, 220 pounds) to replace Chris Ivory as the power back. Let's be clear: This isn't to suggest he will replace Ivory's production, but Robinson can be used as a between-the-tackles thumper. He rushed for 766 yards in three seasons for the Saints, including a 13-carry, one-touchdown performance in a 2013 playoff game. He's coming off a broken leg but should be fine by training camp.

3. Jeremy Ross, wide receiver/kick returner: The well-traveled Ross is the only veteran addition to the receiving corps, essentially replacing Jeremy Kerley. He has a chance to stick because of his ability as a punt and kickoff returner, two problems areas for the Jets. Ross produced three returns of at least 40 yards last season for the Baltimore Ravens (two kickoffs, one punt), so you know the ability is there. The question is his consistency. The Jets are rebuilding their special teams under new coordinator Brant Boyer, so the opportunity will be there.

[jetfan39]

13 hours ago, Mainejet said:

Mac sucks and he's personally flushing this team down the toilet.

does the sun ever shine in you world?

[Raideraholic]

20 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

I really dont care all that much if we lose a last pick of the 4th or not, and its not even been determined yet.  Question is why would you, a Raiders fan, give a shlt and go through all that you have to figure out if we do or dont.   

I don't care.  I was reading the Overthecap article on projected compensation picks for next season .( they said the jets weren't getting any).   Than reading down the article they say the Jet can get a 4th rounder( compensation)  if Jarvis Jenkins was cut.

Than you remember during the draft the Jets Gm talking about giving up next year four for Shell,  it was okay, as they were looking at a Similiar compensation pick.(Pretty confident -  only way if Jenkins is cut).    1+1= 2. 

About 30 seconds it took .  All by reading + remembering what the Jet Gm stated. 

Why do you care what I posted, as if you weren't interested why bother reading it. You can't resist because you have to always be right- see last year when I raised a legitimate point it was risky signing older cb's. ( you went nuts, and yet having admited I was right.).   People are saying now about those signings,  what I said back last year.

[JetBlue]

40 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

I don't care.  I was reading the Overthecap article on projected compensation picks for next season .( they said the jets weren't getting any).   Than reading down the article they say the Jet can get a 4th rounder( compensation)  if Jarvis Jenkins was cut.

Than you remember during the draft the Jets Gm talking about giving up next year four for Shell,  it was okay, as they were looking at a Similiar compensation pick.(Pretty confident -  only way if Jenkins is cut).    1+1= 2. 

About 30 seconds it took .  All by reading + remembering what the Jet Gm stated. 

Why do you care what I posted, as if you weren't interested why bother reading it. You can't resist because you have to always be right- see last year when I raised a legitimate point it was risky signing older cb's. ( you went nuts, and yet having admited I was right.).   People are saying now about those signings,  what I said back last year.

I am going to start calling you Jetaholic. I mean could you go cold turkey and not post in this forum for 6 months? No,you would have the shakes, night terrors, the whole deal.  Remember the first step to recovery is admitting you are really a die hard Jet fan. ?

[section314]

The formula for building a successful team....get rid of good players so you can get 4th round comp. picks. Works every time.

[Dcat]

4 minutes ago, section314 said:

The formula for building a successful team....get rid of good players so you can get 4th round comp. picks. Works every time.

That's not the point 314.

 All teams have to let key players go thru FA from time to time.  So the issue is whether or not they do so in a way that returns something of some value or not.  Basically,  letting UDFA's go + getting comp picks for them > letting UDFAs go + getting nothing for them.  

[32EBoozer]

23 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

Thanks

And Jarvis Jones didn't have his 5th yr. option picked up by the Steelers.

[Jet Nut]

9 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

I don't care.  I was reading the Overthecap article on projected compensation picks for next season .( they said the jets weren't getting any).   Than reading down the article they say the Jet can get a 4th rounder( compensation)  if Jarvis Jenkins was cut.

Than you remember during the draft the Jets Gm talking about giving up next year four for Shell,  it was okay, as they were looking at a Similiar compensation pick.(Pretty confident -  only way if Jenkins is cut).    1+1= 2. 

About 30 seconds it took .  All by reading + remembering what the Jet Gm stated. 

Why do you care what I posted, as if you weren't interested why bother reading it. You can't resist because you have to always be right- see last year when I raised a legitimate point it was risky signing older cb's. ( you went nuts, and yet having admited I was right.).   People are saying now about those signings,  what I said back last year.

You're obsessed with the Jets.  It's not healthy.  Cut the chord. 

Comp picks are decided by committee BTW. 

[pdxgreen]

This thread is asinine. I'd bet good money right now that Sheldon gets suspended for the good part of a year (pending his final court hearing.) You think Macc just threw away a draft pick to sign an u needed player? Remember what happened last year when we drafted Williams? Anything can happen.