JetUp81 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17345996/ex-wife-new-york-giants-kicker-josh-brown-says-was-physically-violent-20-s ESPN source and information: Quote The ex-wife of Josh Brown told police that the New York Giants kicker had been physically violent with her on more than 20 instances over the past several years, but a source told ESPN's Dan Graziano she refused multiple requests to be interviewed by the NFL for its investigation. Molly Brown's comments to police -- according to documents obtained by ESPN -- followed Josh Brown's May 2015 arrest on a charge of assault in the fourth degree/domestic violence, for which he was suspended one game by the NFL on Wednesday. She said police were called to their residences more than 10 times and that he sent a letter in April 2014 to friends admitting abusive behavior and lying to make her look bad. Police were called on multiple occasions to the Browns' residences in Washington state, St. Louis and New Jersey over the years, Molly Brown said, and she had a protection order against her husband in 2013. She said the order was later dropped because of progress they had made in counseling. The Giants were aware of the police being called to the Browns' residence in Hoboken, New Jersey, in 2014-15, Molly Brown said. She said the owners of the apartment they were renting were trying to blackmail the couple, and the Giants' attorneys "basically did what they needed to do to make the guy go away." The details about prior instances were known to the league before Wednesday's announcement of the one-game suspension, according to sources. The Giants declined to comment. The NFL did not immediately reply to a request for comment. Josh Brown said he informed the Giants of the 2015 charge the day of the incident, and a team spokesman confirmed they knew of that incident. Brown was accused by his ex-wife of pushing her into a large mirror in their bedroom, throwing her on the floor, jumping on top of her and pinning her face to the carpet with his forearm on the back on her neck. In a separate incident, he allegedly kicked a door off the hinges and into the arm of her son, kicked a chair into his wife and pushed her over a paper shredder. Molly Brown also told police that he verbally threatened her consistently over the years, including death threats. The charge in the 2015 case was dropped because of "insufficient evidence," according to the King County, Washington, prosecutor's office, but the NFL suspended Brown one game for a violation of the league's conduct policy. The league considered it a domestic-violence-related offense. Josh Brown acknowledged Thursday that the suspension stemmed from the 2015 incident, calling it a "moment that happened over a year ago." "While I'm not OK with the decision, I have to respect it," Brown added. "So I look forward to a 15-game season and moving forward with my teammates." Brown will miss the season opener against the Dallas Cowboys on Sept. 11. The domestic violence policy establishes a six-game baseline for first offenses but allows for aggravating circumstances that can make the suspension longer or mitigating circumstances that can make it shorter. Brown and the union argued that there should be no suspension, but the NFL determined that the one incident about which the report was filed required them to act. The Giants re-signed Josh Brown this offseason to a two-year, $4 million deal. Information from ESPN's Dan Graziano was used in this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quote The ex-wife of Josh Brown told police that the New York Giants kicker had been physically violent with her on more than 20 instances over the past several years, but a source told ESPN's Dan Graziano she refused multiple requests to be interviewed by the NFL for its investigation. Molly Brown's comments to police -- according to documents obtained by ESPN -- followed Josh Brown's May 2015 arrest on a charge of assault in the fourth degree/domestic violence, for which he was suspended one game by the NFL on Wednesday. She said police were called to their residences more than 10 times and that he sent a letter in April 2014 to friends admitting abusive behavior and lying to make her look bad. Police were called on multiple occasions to the Browns' residences in Washington state, St. Louis and New Jersey over the years, Molly Brown said, and she had a protection order against her husband in 2013. She said the order was later dropped because of progress they had made in counseling. The Giants were aware of the police being called to the Browns' residence in Hoboken, New Jersey, in 2014-15, Molly Brown said. She said the owners of the apartment they were renting were trying to blackmail the couple, and the Giants' attorneys "basically did what they needed to do to make the guy go away." The details about prior instances were known to the league before Wednesday's announcement of the one-game suspension, according to sources. The Giants declined to comment. The NFL did not immediately reply to a request for comment. Josh Brown said he informed the Giants of the 2015 charge the day of the incident, and a team spokesman confirmed they knew of that incident. Brown was accused by his ex-wife of pushing her into a large mirror in their bedroom, throwing her on the floor, jumping on top of her and pinning her face to the carpet with his forearm on the back on her neck. In a separate incident, he allegedly kicked a door off the hinges and into the arm of her son, kicked a chair into his wife and pushed her over a paper shredder. Molly Brown also told police that he verbally threatened her consistently over the years, including death threats. The charge in the 2015 case was dropped because of "insufficient evidence," according to the King County, Washington, prosecutor's office, but the NFL suspended Brown one game for a violation of the league's conduct policy. The league considered it a domestic-violence-related offense. Josh Brown acknowledged Thursday that the suspension stemmed from the 2015 incident, calling it a "moment that happened over a year ago." "While I'm not OK with the decision, I have to respect it," Brown added. "So I look forward to a 15-game season and moving forward with my teammates." Brown will miss the season opener against the Dallas Cowboys on Sept. 11. The domestic violence policy establishes a six-game baseline for first offenses but allows for aggravating circumstances that can make the suspension longer or mitigating circumstances that can make it shorter. Brown and the union argued that there should be no suspension, but the NFL determined that the one incident about which the report was filed required them to act. The Giants re-signed Josh Brown this offseason to a two-year, $4 million deal. Information from ESPN's Dan Graziano was used in this report.
The details about prior instances were known to the league before Wednesday's announcement of the one-game suspension, according to sources. The Giants declined to comment. The NFL did not immediately reply to a request for comment. Josh Brown said he informed the Giants of the 2015 charge the day of the incident, and a team spokesman confirmed they knew of that incident. Brown was accused by his ex-wife of pushing her into a large mirror in their bedroom, throwing her on the floor, jumping on top of her and pinning her face to the carpet with his forearm on the back on her neck. In a separate incident, he allegedly kicked a door off the hinges and into the arm of her son, kicked a chair into his wife and pushed her over a paper shredder. Molly Brown also told police that he verbally threatened her consistently over the years, including death threats. The charge in the 2015 case was dropped because of "insufficient evidence," according to the King County, Washington, prosecutor's office, but the NFL suspended Brown one game for a violation of the league's conduct policy. The league considered it a domestic-violence-related offense. Josh Brown acknowledged Thursday that the suspension stemmed from the 2015 incident, calling it a "moment that happened over a year ago." "While I'm not OK with the decision, I have to respect it," Brown added. "So I look forward to a 15-game season and moving forward with my teammates." Brown will miss the season opener against the Dallas Cowboys on Sept. 11. The domestic violence policy establishes a six-game baseline for first offenses but allows for aggravating circumstances that can make the suspension longer or mitigating circumstances that can make it shorter. Brown and the union argued that there should be no suspension, but the NFL determined that the one incident about which the report was filed required them to act. The Giants re-signed Josh Brown this offseason to a two-year, $4 million deal. Information from ESPN's Dan Graziano was used in this report.
joewilly12 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Ray Rice say no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 He's not ok with a 1 game ban? If there was video of it his career is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 And this turd gets only a 1 game suspension. Goodell is a clown once again. http://nypost.com/2016/08/19/nfl-josh-brown-only-got-1-game-because-ex-wife-didnt-talk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 game ban for this is a joke and further perpetuates the racial divide in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just now, Adoni Beast said: 1 game ban for this is a joke and further perpetuates the racial divide in America. It's not racial. There is an in group and our group of owners. The Rooneys, Maras and until recently Kraft were the in group while our dolt of an owner is the dork on the outside of the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, drdetroit said: It's not racial. There is an in group and our group of owners. The Rooneys, Maras and until recently Kraft were the in group while our dolt of an owner is the dork on the outside of the party. I agree its not racist. But because its only a 1 game ban creates the debate. He should be suspended for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 this guy's a kicker? no way he survives this media sh*tstorm. bye bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 The Classy Circus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Moral of the story: do whatever you want but don't get filmed doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetUp81 Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 Brown was arrested and suspended in 2001 while playing at Nebraska for domestic violence. Hopefully, his days in the NFL are numbered... if not over. http://thebiglead.com/2016/08/19/josh-brown-was-also-suspended-at-nebraska-in-2001-for-an-assault-arrest/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 On August 19, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Adoni Beast said: 1 game ban for this is a joke and further perpetuates the racial divide in America. Sure it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 On August 19, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Adoni Beast said: I agree its not racist. But because its only a 1 game ban creates the debate. He should be suspended for the season. 1. Every criminal activity doesn't creat debate of racism. Racist activity creates it. 2. He wasn't accused, arrest or reported 20 times. She's claiming that was the case without any proof or details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetUp81 Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: 1. Every criminal activity doesn't creat debate of racism. Racist activity creates it. 2. He wasn't accused, arrest or reported 20 times. She's claiming that was the case without any proof or details She was probably scared for her life (and her son's) to talk too much to the police. The fact that she called the police that many times in 3 different cities tells a LOT. And, when you combine it with the fact that the guy had already assaulted another woman years previous... the signs are all there that he is a P.O.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Just now, JetUp81 said: She was probably scared for her life (and her son's) to talk too much to the police. The fact that she called the police that many times in 3 different cities tells a LOT. And, when you combine it with the fact that the guy had already assaulted another woman years previous... the signs are all there that he is a P.O.S. Hey I don't know, you don't know but everyone is sure it happened like she said. Even if we think it's true the NFL isn't going to go by that kind of flimsy story. They'd be sued in a second. The union would freak if they attempted to suspend someone for a full season off of a comment years after the fact. Doesnt mean it didn't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 On 8/19/2016 at 7:42 PM, drdetroit said: And this turd gets only a 1 game suspension. Goodell is a clown once again. http://nypost.com/2016/08/19/nfl-josh-brown-only-got-1-game-because-ex-wife-didnt-talk/ The best reason for the Pats to be pissed off. Is the punishment standard if you smack the woman around dependent on whether there is video footage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 So far so good. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Bugg said: The best reason for the Pats to be pissed off. Is the punishment standard if you smack the woman around dependent on whether there is video footage? unfortunately, I think so. If there was video of greg hardy doing what is outlined in the police report, his career would be over as well. In the internet/mobile age, optics rule “I, the undersigned, find that there is probable cause to believe that on or about the date of the offense shown [May 13, 2014] and in the county named above [Mecklenburg County, North Carolina] the defendant named above [Hardy] unlawfully and willingly did assault [redacted], a female person, by GRABBING VICTIM AND THROWING TO THE FLOOR, THROWING INTO A BATHTUB, SLAMMING HER AGAINST A FUTON, AND STRANGLING HER. The defendant is a male person and was at least 18 years of age when the assault occurred.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 On August 19, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Adoni Beast said: I agree its not racist. But because its only a 1 game ban creates the debate. He should be suspended for the season. I agree he should get a season long suspension but this is entirely Goodell doing a solid for the Maras. God I hope Romo stays healthy and the Boys win that division I hate the Giants so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, Bugg said: The best reason for the Pats to be pissed off. Is the punishment standard if you smack the woman around dependent on whether there is video footage? Exactly this nonsense. Goodell is so arbitrary and he is such an inept stooge. Where is the media on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 16 hours ago, JetUp81 said: Brown was arrested and suspended in 2001 while playing at Nebraska for domestic violence. Hopefully, his days in the NFL are numbered... if not over. http://thebiglead.com/2016/08/19/josh-brown-was-also-suspended-at-nebraska-in-2001-for-an-assault-arrest/ Supposedly the Giants want this POS I guess they feel it's too late to find another kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetUp81 Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 Josh Brown needs to spend some time behind bars for his actions. It appears that he always gets off with a slap on the wrist with every arrest and police report he adds to his growing list of offenses. Keeping him condones his actions and sends the wrong message to the other players and fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 On August 20, 2016 at 9:29 PM, Jet Nut said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Wow what their house must look like after he is done kicking the furniture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 People are crucifying him even though an arrest is NOT being found guilty, and there's no evidence her claim is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 hours ago, PCP63 said: People are crucifying him even though an arrest is NOT being found guilty, and there's no evidence her claim is true. I think some of these folks are more concerned that this Giant player is not being punished than what might have actually happened to the woman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Tinstar said: I think some of these folks are more concerned that this Giant player is not being punished than what might have actually happened to the woman ? I understand that. But whether any of this even happened or not is extremely relevant. He's by no means a choir boy (as his DUI indicates), but this specific incident has no backing as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I understand that. But whether any of this even happened or not is extremely relevant. He's by no means a choir boy (as his DUI indicates), but this specific incident has no backing as of now. Criminal court burden is beyond reasonable doubt, NFL it's by preponderance (more likely than not, as in deflategate). Don't need a conviction to get a suspension. Same way OJ was found liable under lesser standard in civil court despite being acquitted under the more difficult standard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 hours ago, jgb said: Criminal court burden is beyond reasonable doubt, NFL it's by preponderance (more likely than not, as in deflategate). Don't need a conviction to get a suspension. Same way OJ was found liable under lesser standard in civil court despite being acquitted under the more difficult standard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I understand that. However, when there is literally zero evidence, that is far from a preponderance of evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, PCP63 said: I understand that. However, when there is literally zero evidence, that is far from a preponderance of evidence. See here's the thing. They have at least one police report. You may not find that convincing evidence but it is indeed evidence. Saying there is zero evidence is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet in PA Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Schefter: Giants announced they signed former Texans kicker Randy Bullock and waived kicker Tom Obarski. Fat Randy is back in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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