Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, HessStation said: I plan on a slight reread given the latest information. I am unfortunately not the SK this game Smash. I happen to love sharks and destroying my enemies though. read my post above after your re - read Hess .... I think you will come to the same conclusion as me that Ape is scum and you need him to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: read my post above after your re - read Hess .... I think you will come to the same conclusion as me that Ape is scum and you need him to die. Ape feels more SK than scum to me TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 58 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: I was not just on 80 I was on Nolder for a good while as well so there goes that theory. I didn't start to suspect 80 until he actually started answering the questions I put to him a lot of which were asked for reaction. The reaction I got was scummy and way over dramatic and that's why I changed my vote from Nolder to 80 If you were on both on D1, you'd be dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 17 minutes ago, HessStation said: Ape feels more SK than scum to me TBH. Smash feels more SK to me... Vote Smash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPR Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Sweet ******* ****ers that **** all night in ****ville, this sh*t show is starting day 2 the same way that 80 gets ready for a blind date: everyone is going to be wearing blindfolds, only embarrassing things are going to happen and it's all going to end with a primate slinging turds. I'm so excited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I'm not arguing with this putz, I already made my case. Him leading off the day like this is scumtastic 101, considering I wasn't even on his radar until I caused him. vote smash Sometimes it is this easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Additional FOS for Lizzie, implying meta reasons for Crusher as NK choice is a form of gaming the death scene. Scummy. Something Jif used to nab people on, back when he was decent at this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Other thoughts: DPR is avoiding conflict, rare. Jif is avoiding taking a position, except on 80 right? Jif did have a position on 80, of SN I remembering wrong? BG, AVM, Jetscode and dice are getting a free ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 56 minutes ago, HessStation said: Ape feels more SK than scum to me TBH. Nah... I don't babble about shooting folks as SK, I just play my town game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: Here are some posts from the APE so sure Lizzie was scum. When I started focusing on 80 after his huge post of Quotes Ape piled right on and you can see him agreeing with me directly after my post in the above quotes. However APE did not unvote and vote 80 Just yet since 80 only had 2 votes he waited for 80 to get 4 votes then he came in as the 5th vote claiming how he figured out 80 was scum and he was leading the charge when in fact I was leading the charge. As much as Ape was pushing for Lizzie which is obvious if you all go back and read the posts why would Ape put the 5th vote on 80 then claim at the lynch that I was bussing ? That's easy it was to cover up his buss attempt which IMHO is obvious. If I was trying to slip my vote in quietly, I wouldn't have called attention to PAC not initially counting it. You aren't making sense. You are making narrative from revisionist history. Additionally, it is a scum tell to be accused of something and then in defense accuse your accuser of the same thing. So obvious it hurts. The key give-away here is that you aren't obstinate over me calling you scum when you're supposedly town. Instead you're looking for a way to accuse me of being scum instead. Dead give-away for you. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 11 hours ago, Integrity28 said: No one specific post. My general take on Smash is that he doesn't deal in absolutes until he's sure of stuff, especially on D1. He's got a clear track record of barely participating in D1. Yet, over the course of this D1 he seemed uber positive that 80 was scum. I mean, let's face it, Smash doesn't strut confidence like I do. He's not the type of player to lock-in on a guilty read this early in the game. So, my theory, since 80 has already said so himself, is that 80 figured he wasn't long for the game right from the get-go. 80 does like bussing, Smash digging into him with conviction early just seems to align more to a 80/Smash scum strategy, rather than a Smash as town type of play. Smash is a very astute town player. Nothing about his charge on 80 felt like his style. If I'm wrong, then I commend him on a good read, and on changing his tendencies... but reality is, I am pretty firm on my position. Popped in this morning and debated saying something then but decided to hold off and see what happened, given it was night phase...but Smash is the most anti-bussing person on the whole site. I've never played with him once he was okay bussing, and whenever we did he'd protest the whole time. Doesnt make him town -- I'd actually side with JC here and put him in the possible SK category, but there's nothing about that play that is typical Smash 11 hours ago, Leelou said: Notes? Wtf are notes? Lulz (I miss you already </3) 11 hours ago, Verbal said: This happened to us both years ago. You threatened to jam a pencil in someone's eye socket like 3 minutes in...you were never totally like the rest of em. You're just, you know....Canadian. 10 hours ago, Smashmouth said: you came into these games much later than I did and early on I was very pushy and very influential I was way too positive about my reads ...While I still can be both at times, I've backed off a lot as I became more polished of a player . Oh and I NEVER Buss the only time I can remember bussing was when CTM and myself had one of the best busses ever Just ask PAC the MOD I know he would hate to relive the misery but he wont deny it. I don't remember the once, but bragging about being good at bussing suddenly makes me not feel as good lmao 7 hours ago, HessStation said: mama Mia what in the Eff AVM put your kill in already. Fwiw if I was scum both of those would have been at the top of my list...tough outs (to lynch) for scum and/or SK. It's a jump in logic, but I'd imagine scum is somewhat roled up and as such didn't decide to doc/cop hunt but take out tough lynches. It's also a Pac game and I don't remember him ever modding a basic game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: read my post above after your re - read Hess .... I think you will come to the same conclusion as me that Ape is scum and you need him to die. You need him to die...just strikes me as odd. I think it's more a case of me attributing something he's said to a suspicion of him being SK rather than a condemning statement but it is weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 To clarify...on mobile and didn't want to deal with bolding. Just pointing out that Smash said "you need him to die" instead of "we need him to die" or town does or anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Official Vote Count: Verb (1) - Nolder Ape (1) - Smash Smash (2) - JC, Ape With 12 characters alive it takes 7 to lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: I'm not arguing with this putz, I already made my case. Him leading off the day like this is scumtastic 101, considering I wasn't even on his radar until I caused him. vote smash Sometimes it is this easy. this is a whole lot of nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 19 minutes ago, AVM said: To clarify...on mobile and didn't want to deal with bolding. Just pointing out that Smash said "you need him to die" instead of "we need him to die" or town does or anything else. AVM it was obvious I was talking to Hess in the context that he was a SK. The biggest enemy to everyone both town or SK is scum and I'm pretty sure Ape is scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Jetscode1 said: If you were on both on D1, you'd be dead. what does this even mean JC ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 He's pretty sure I'm scum. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 37 minutes ago, AVM said: Popped in this morning and debated saying something then but decided to hold off and see what happened, given it was night phase...but Smash is the most anti-bussing person on the whole site. I've never played with him once he was okay bussing, and whenever we did he'd protest the whole time. Doesnt make him town -- I'd actually side with JC here and put him in the possible SK category, but there's nothing about that play that is typical Smash Lulz (I miss you already </3) You threatened to jam a pencil in someone's eye socket like 3 minutes in...you were never totally like the rest of em. You're just, you know....Canadian. I don't remember the once, but bragging about being good at bussing suddenly makes me not feel as good lmao Fwiw if I was scum both of those would have been at the top of my list...tough outs (to lynch) for scum and/or SK. It's a jump in logic, but I'd imagine scum is somewhat roled up and as such didn't decide to doc/cop hunt but take out tough lynches. It's also a Pac game and I don't remember him ever modding a basic game. It happened long before you started playing AVM. Its was the first year Doggin turned us on to Mafia and one of the first 5 games ever played here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: He's pretty sure I'm scum. LOL rather than loling and making poor arguments why don't you come up with some hard facts ? I went back and actually made my case with your quotes. Its undeniable you placed a late desperation bussing vote on 80 based on the timer you placed it in the voting record and from the hardcore case you were making on lizzie at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 23 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: what does this even mean JC ? I'm thinking that if you had a hard on for 80 and 80 was scum...and a hard on for Nolder and he too was scum...I'd guess they would have NK'd you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jetscode1 said: I'm thinking that if you had a hard on for 80 and 80 was scum...and a hard on for Nolder and he too was scum...I'd guess they would have NK'd you. Funny this brings me to something else I was thinking about. Ape in all his fabulous glory probably saying in the Scum QT lets not kill Smash I can get him lynched the next day phase. Same concept different player. Still does not discount the possibility both Lizzie and Ape could be scum. Ape was all over Lizzy making cases all through out day 1 then he just decided, oh I think Ill vote 80 then the next day phase he decides to continue ignoring the guy he made this great Ape case against to OMGUS vote me since I called him out on bussing 80 after he tried to claim that's what I did even though I went after 80 much earlier in the game. I would not doubt for one second if all three of them are scum with Ape distancing himself from Lizzie early on then jumping to 80 and their team hoping that we would discount Lizzie as scum and just crazy town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 25 minutes ago, Smashmouth said: Funny this brings me to something else I was thinking about. Ape in all his fabulous glory probably saying in the Scum QT lets not kill Smash I can get him lynched the next day phase. Same concept different player. Still does not discount the possibility both Lizzie and Ape could be scum. Ape was all over Lizzy making cases all through out day 1 then he just decided, oh I think Ill vote 80 then the next day phase he decides to continue ignoring the guy he made this great Ape case against to OMGUS vote me since I called him out on bussing 80 after he tried to claim that's what I did even though I went after 80 much earlier in the game. I would not doubt for one second if all three of them are scum with Ape distancing himself from Lizzie early on then jumping to 80 and their team hoping that we would discount Lizzie as scum and just crazy town. cool story 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: rather than loling and making poor arguments why don't you come up with some hard facts ? I went back and actually made my case with your quotes. Its undeniable you placed a late desperation bussing vote on 80 based on the timer you placed it in the voting record and from the hardcore case you were making on lizzie at the time. I routinely vote and case multiple suspects simultaneously. Thank you for pointing out a town tell. My case on you has been stated, I see zero reason to restate it while you flail about with this terrible OMGUS dipsh*t garbage. When I voted 80 is irrelevant. You knew not to unvote him, I didn't. Again late votes do not equal bus votes. Your argument is 'I have a feeling Ape is scum he voted 80 late'. This only comes after I offered a detailed case on you. You have no substance. You are spewing scum tells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Smashmouth said: Funny this brings me to something else I was thinking about. Ape in all his fabulous glory probably saying in the Scum QT lets not kill Smash I can get him lynched the next day phase. Same concept different player. Still does not discount the possibility both Lizzie and Ape could be scum. Ape was all over Lizzy making cases all through out day 1 then he just decided, oh I think Ill vote 80 then the next day phase he decides to continue ignoring the guy he made this great Ape case against to OMGUS vote me since I called him out on bussing 80 after he tried to claim that's what I did even though I went after 80 much earlier in the game. I would not doubt for one second if all three of them are scum with Ape distancing himself from Lizzie early on then jumping to 80 and their team hoping that we would discount Lizzie as scum and just crazy town. Pathetic. Considering you led off the day voting me. Again you're projecting what you're doing. OMGUS Smash, no substance, no logic, just narratives. Spewing scum tells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 This is my rifle, this is my gun, I'm about to skull **** every one!!! Smash first. Now, someone get me some benfiber, cause I just sh*t myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Peng Chang-kuei, Chef Behind General Tso’s Chicken, Dies at 98 Lightly battered and fried in a chili-accented sweet-and-sour sauce, General Tso’s Chicken has been called “the most famous Hunanese dish in the world.” RICHARD DREW / ASSOCIATED PRESS By WILLIAM GRIMES DECEMBER 2, 2016 Peng Chang-kuei, the Taiwanese chef who invented General Tso’s chicken, a dish nearly universal in Chinese restaurants in the United States, died on Wednesday in Taipei. He was 98. The death was reported by The Associated Press. The British food scholar Fuchsia Dunlop has called General Tso’s chicken — lightly battered pieces of dark chicken fried in a chili-accented sweet-and-sour sauce — “the most famous Hunanese dish in the world.” But like many Chinese dishes that have found favor with Americans, General Tso’s chicken was unknown in China until recently. Nor was it, in the version known to most Americans, Hunanese, a cuisine defined by salty, hot and sour flavors. Mr. Peng, an official chef for the Nationalist government, which fled to Taiwan after the 1949 revolution in China, said he created the dish during a four-day visit by Adm. Arthur W. Radford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, during the Taiwan Strait crisis of 1955. On the spur of the moment, he assigned it the name of a Hunanese general, Zuo Zongtang, who had helped put down a series of rebellions in the 19th century. “Originally the flavors of the dish were typically Hunanese — heavy, sour, hot and salty,” Mr. Peng told Ms. Dunlop, the author of “Revolutionary Chinese Cookbook” (2007), which is devoted to the cuisine of Hunan. “The original General Tso’s chicken was Hunanese in taste and made without sugar.” The dish made its way to New York in the early 1970s after Chinese chefs in New York, preparing to open the city’s first Hunanese restaurants — Uncle Tai’s Hunan Yuan and Hunam — visited a restaurant that Mr. Peng had opened in Taipei. They adapted the recipe to suit American tastes. “We didn’t want to copy chef Peng exactly,” Ed Schoenfeld, an assistant to the restaurant’s owner, David Keh, told the website Salon in 2010. “We added our own spin to dishes. And so our General Tso’s chicken was cut differently, into small dice, and we served it with water chestnuts, black mushrooms, hoisin sauce and vinegar.” The chef was Wen Dah Tai. At Hunam, the chef Tsung Ting Wang — who was also a partner with Michael Tong in another prominent Chinese restaurant in Manhattan, Shun Lee Palace — put a Sichuan spin on the dish. He crisped up the batter and sweetened the sauce, producing a taste combination that millions of Americans came to love. He called it General Ching’s chicken. But as the dish traveled, the General Tso name adhered. Both restaurants were awarded four stars, the highest rating, by Raymond Sokolov, the restaurant critic of The New York Times. In 1973, with Hunan fever raging, Mr. Peng came to New York and, with Mr. Keh, opened Uncle Peng’s Hunan Yuan on East 44th Street, near the United Nations. Mr. Peng discovered, to his consternation, that his creation had preceded him, and that the child was almost unrecognizable. Peng Chang-kuei in an image from the 2014 documentary “The Search for General Tso.” WICKED DELICATE FILMS “New Yorkers didn’t realize he was the real thing, and some treated him like he was copying,” Mr. Schoenfeld said. The tangled history of the dish was explored in 2014 in a documentary, “The Search for General Tso,”directed by Ian Cheney. Peng Chang-kuei was born in Changsha, the capital of Hunan Province, in 1918. His family was poor. At 13, after running away from home, he began serving an apprenticeship under the celebrated Hunanese chef Cao Jing-shen. Formerly a family chef to Tan Yan-kai, prime minister of the Nationalist government in the late 1920s, Mr. Cao had opened the restaurant Jianleyuan in Changsha. In the 1930s, after the Japanese invasion, Mr. Peng moved to Chunking, the temporary Nationalist capital, where he began to gain renown. After World War II, he was installed as the government’s head banquet chef. He emigrated to Taiwan in 1949, leaving his wife and two sons behind, and continued to cater official functions. He is survived by a son, Peng Tie-Cheng. Complete information on other survivors was not available. New York proved to be a fraught experiment, as Mr. Peng’s restaurant soon closed. “Doom trailed Uncle Peng,” the food critic Gael Greene wrote in New York magazine in 1973. “The pressures of Manhattan restaurant reality were too much for the brilliant teacher.” Undaunted, Mr. Peng borrowed money from friends and opened Yunnan Yuan on East 52nd Street, near Lexington Avenue, where Henry A. Kissinger, then the secretary of state, became a faithful customer. “Kissinger visited us every time he was in New York, and we became great friends,” Mr. Peng told Ms. Dunlop. “It was he who brought Hunanese food to public notice.” General Tso’s chicken began to assume celebrity status when Bob Lape, a restaurant critic, showed Mr. Peng making the dish in a segment for ABC News. The station received some 1,500 requests for the recipe. Encouraged, Mr. Peng reopened his old restaurant as Peng’s, bringing his signature dish with him. Reviewing the restaurant in the The Times in 1977, Mimi Sheraton wrote, “General Tso’s chicken was a stir-fried masterpiece, sizzling hot both in flavor and temperature.” He left the restaurant in 1981 and opened Peng’s Garden in Yonkers, then returned to Taiwan in the late ’80s and opened the first in a chain of Peng Yuan restaurants there. The menu featured General Tso’s chicken. It was listed on the menu in Mandarin as Zuo Zongtang’s farmyard chicken, and in English as chicken à la viceroy. In 1990 he opened a branch of his restaurant in the Great Wall Hotel in Changsha, but it was not a success. As Hunanese chefs adopted General Tso’s chicken, the dish entered a strange second career. In a sweeping act of historical revisionism, it came to be seen as a traditional Hunan dish. Several Hunanese chefs have described it in their cookbooks as a favorite of the 19th-century general’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 6 hours ago, Lizard King said: I miss Crusher already. Let's think about who would be mad at Crusher for a second. Okay that yielded no results. Let's think about who could have been scared of crusher for a second. Ok, nothing coming to mind. Let's think about who Crusher thought was scummy? Need to go back and look. Too lazy right now. Ace scumhunting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicetosser Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 15 hours ago, HessStation said: Just making sure dice tosser knows he's welcomed. gee thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicetosser Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I get why people think smash is showing as sk but I have nagging voice in my head. it seems too easy. now I don't know smash or how he plays really so I ask is he someone that people clue in on like that normally? @ape why smash over lizzie? (correct me if im mixing people up) You were daring him to kill you yesterday and seemed pretty set on him as scum so why is he just fosed again today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 1. Mess Station 2. Delusional 80 (Scum w/ Vest -- lynched D1) 3. Leroy (Town Crippler -- NK N1) 4. Gerbil 5. The Stupid Ape™ 6. Teh Cruncher (town jumper -- NK N1) 7. Jets Toad 8. Wessssley! (DPR) 9. BeeGee (Lizard King) 10. JiFruit 11. Smush 12. Bleedin Green aka the Octogenarian 13. AFleaM 14. SaladTosser (Dice) 15. Noltwerp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Official Vote Count: Verb (1) - Nolder Ape (1) - Smash Smash (2) - JC, Ape With 12 characters alive it takes 7 to lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Dicetosser said: I get why people think smash is showing as sk but I have nagging voice in my head. it seems too easy. now I don't know smash or how he plays really so I ask is he someone that people clue in on like that normally? @ape why smash over lizzie? (correct me if im mixing people up) You were daring him to kill you yesterday and seemed pretty set on him as scum so why is he just fosed again today? Dice the Ape is full of sh*t you are seeing the same things I did, He was all over Lizzie then when 80 got some votes after I started making a case on him in swung the Ape to buss the hell out it. Then he tried to claim I was bussing 80. All you have to do or all anyone playing this game has to do is go back and read his posts and you will see right through him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 5 hours ago, Jetscode1 said: cool story dude do what you want, its there for you to read.... if you want to side with the Ape good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I'm the Town Enforcer Pac wont let me say more than that but I will say the Ape is heading for a beat down. What I can say is I'm not scum and I'm certainly not the SK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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