Jets Have An Interest In Cutler

[lambo]

1 hour ago, Saul Goodman said:

Hack doesn't have a noodle arm. In fact, his arm is on par with Cutler's, which is/was one of the strongest in the league 

oh sry he just cant hit a moving target

[PepPep]

1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

This comes as no surprise. He's one of the most realistic options. The guy has talent, and is capable of having a big season.

He's far from perfect. But he's a very realistic option for where Maac and Bowles are right now.

ONLY if he comes at a reasonable price on a short term deal. Which is exactly why this will not happen. Cutler will want as lucrative a deal as possible and he will want something long term. This may be his last chance to cash out. Sure, he has plenty of money already. But he's not a point in his career where all he cares about is winning a SB (like Romo for example). 

[Lego My Lageman]

::Death Moan::

 

[HighPitch]

Last chance  to cash  out  indeed

[Lego My Lageman]

Im here I watch people talk themselves into this. 

 

 

[MaxAF]

SeeCutler:

Attitude issues. 

Not a team player or leader.

33 year old retreads. 

Currently on IR.

Stats not that outstanding as of late, also gets sacked alot.

If the Jets are building how about a young franchise QB. The Jets may already have the answer and none of us has seen enough of the young QB'S to know the answer to that question.

[win4ever]

20 hours ago, rangerous said:

i don't exactly see where he's an interception machine.  the other parts may be true but there's no doubt he is a decent qb when healthy.

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Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
2006	23	DEN	qb	6	5	5	2-3-0	81	137	59.1	1001	9	6.6	5	3.6	71	7.3	7.0	12.4	200.2	88.5	35.96	13	85	6.11	5.81	8.7			3
2007	24	DEN	QB	6	16	16	7-9-0	297	467	63.6	3497	20	4.3	14	3.0	68	7.5	7.0	11.8	218.6	88.1	55.1	27	153	6.77	6.30	5.5	2	3	12
2008*	25	DEN	QB	6	16	16	8-8-0	384	616	62.3	4526	25	4.1	18	2.9	93	7.3	6.8	11.8	282.9	86.0	67.09	11	69	7.11	6.61	1.8	3	4	15
2009	26	CHI	QB	6	16	16	7-9-0	336	555	60.5	3666	27	4.9	26	4.7	71	6.6	5.5	10.9	229.1	76.8	41.34	35	204	5.87	4.80	5.9	2	4	10
2010	27	CHI	QB	6	15	15	10-5-0	261	432	60.4	3274	23	5.3	16	3.7	89	7.6	7.0	12.5	218.3	86.3	43.91	52	352	6.04	5.50	10.7	4	4	12
2011	28	CHI	QB	6	10	10	7-3-0	182	314	58.0	2319	13	4.1	7	2.2	56	7.4	7.2	12.7	231.9	85.7	57.75	23	159	6.41	6.25	6.8	1	1	7
2012	29	CHI	QB	6	15	15	10-5-0	255	434	58.8	3033	19	4.4	14	3.2	60	7.0	6.4	11.9	202.2	81.3	48.5	38	250	5.90	5.37	8.1	1	1	11
2013	30	CHI	QB	6	11	11	5-6-0	224	355	63.1	2621	19	5.4	12	3.4	67	7.4	6.9	11.7	238.3	89.2	67.07	19	132	6.66	6.23	5.1	3	3	9
2014	31	CHI	QB	6	15	15	5-10-0	370	561	66.0	3812	28	5.0	18	3.2	74	6.8	6.3	10.3	254.1	88.6	52.77	38	223	5.99	5.57	6.3	1	1	11
2015	32	CHI	QB	6	15	15	6-9-0	311	483	64.4	3659	21	4.3	11	2.3	87	7.6	7.4	11.8	243.9	92.3	60.67	29	150	6.85	6.71	5.7	4	4	12
2016	33	CHI	qb	6	5	5	1-4-0	81	137	59.1	1059	4	2.9	5	3.6	54	7.7	6.7	13.1	211.8	78.1	33.1	17	104	6.20	5.26	11.0			2
Career					139	139	68-71-0	2782	4491	61.9	32467	208	4.6	146	3.3	93	7.2	6.7	11.7	233.6	85.7		302	1881	6.38	5.88	6.3	21	25	104
8 yrs		CHI			102	102	51-51-0	2020	3271	61.8	23443	154	4.7	109	3.3	89	7.2	6.6	11.6	229.8	85.2		251	1574	6.21	5.69	7.1	16	18	74
3 yrs		DEN			37	37	17-20-0	762	1220	62.5	9024	54	4.4	37	3.0	93	7.4	6.9	11.8	243.9	87.1		51	307	6.86	6.40	4.0	5	7	30

His career interception rate is 3.3, taking into account his lowest attempts in a season as the bench mark for attempts, that rate would have made him the 31st QB this year in terms of interception rate.   

If we go up to a more robust 300 attempts- he would rank 27th (this is to weed out injury replacement guys that may have played a game or two).  

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-interception-rates/2016/customize/

He's in the bottom tier of interception rates throughout his career.  He has talent, but he's a risk taker, that is going to be 34 years old and declining.  His main attribute is the arm strength, but as he gets older he has to adjust, and I'm not willing to bank on that.  If he was younger, I'd absolutely take a shot, but this is the same argument as Fitz last year.  Cutler doesn't make us a contender, it just takes us from horrible to respectable.  In the long term, we stunt the growth of our young QBs so we can't find out if they are good enough or not to move forward with, and the move to respectability takes us out of prime draft positions to actually pick a franchise guy.  It's a lose-lose for us, by marginally improving our chances to win.  

I just don't want a stop gap guy, and I'm willing to live with a 2-14 team, if it means we can rebuild properly and actually get a good young QB instead of picking up the trash from other teams hoping to solve a riddle.  

[win4ever]

17 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

Some of the same folks who were saying Fitz had low risk and couldn't hurt the team are some of the same folks now advocating this silly move.

Petty vs Hack before Cutler!!!

 

Exactly, it's the same argument over again (while Cutler is more physically talented) because it's an old veteran on the downside that can take us from horrible to respectable, but doesn't really take us anywhere.  

How many people can name 6-7 win teams from the NFC without looking it up?  You either suck and get the most talented players, or you go for it all and build with a franchise QB.  Having an old veteran come in, just delays the process to rebuilding the position, and devalues the most effective method of rebuilding, which is draft value.

[rangerous]

3 hours ago, win4ever said:

His career interception rate is 3.3, taking into account his lowest attempts in a season as the bench mark for attempts, that rate would have made him the 31st QB this year in terms of interception rate.   

If we go up to a more robust 300 attempts- he would rank 27th (this is to weed out injury replacement guys that may have played a game or two).  

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-interception-rates/2016/customize/

He's in the bottom tier of interception rates throughout his career.  He has talent, but he's a risk taker, that is going to be 34 years old and declining.  His main attribute is the arm strength, but as he gets older he has to adjust, and I'm not willing to bank on that.  If he was younger, I'd absolutely take a shot, but this is the same argument as Fitz last year.  Cutler doesn't make us a contender, it just takes us from horrible to respectable.  In the long term, we stunt the growth of our young QBs so we can't find out if they are good enough or not to move forward with, and the move to respectability takes us out of prime draft positions to actually pick a franchise guy.  It's a lose-lose for us, by marginally improving our chances to win.  

I just don't want a stop gap guy, and I'm willing to live with a 2-14 team, if it means we can rebuild properly and actually get a good young QB instead of picking up the trash from other teams hoping to solve a riddle.  

i looked up a number of qb's such as favre, rivers, rodgers, roethlisberger, prescott, wilson, eli manning, peyton manning, mariota, sanchez and smith. some of these guys are really stingy.  basically, cutler's interception rate is not the greatest but what really set the really good from the average is the td/int ration.  even with cutler's middling int rate he's light years ahead of the past few qb's the jets have had.  

i don't think anyone is advocating using him as the qb for the next 5 seasons but he can be a more effective 1 or 2 season stop gap than most of the other veterans available. although when i look at this further, by this criteria hoyer might be the better choice. if the intent is to get a guy for a season or two the last thing the jets need is another ego driven guy.

[FTL Jet Fan]

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Jay Cutler and the Jets make sense -- if he can handle the press

Cutler's talent indicates he should start, given the number of teams in need of a quarterback and a rookie class of QBs who are not ready to start. A question he has to answer is what he will play for. As to who is the best fit, it might all come down to his attitude toward the team he's thinking about. The Jets are an obvious possibility, because he's played for QB coach Jeremy Bates before. The chemistry with the team is a factor -- along with his ability to handle the New York tabloids.

 

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10 hours ago, FTL Jet Fan said:

Good old Charley.Great.

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• Charley Casserly
• Writer | NFL.com 
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Jay Cutler and the Jets make sense -- if he can handle the press

Cutler's talent indicates he should start, given the number of teams in need of a quarterback and a rookie class of QBs who are not ready to start. A question he has to answer is what he will play for. As to who is the best fit, it might all come down to his attitude toward the team he's thinking about. The Jets are an obvious possibility, because he's played for QB coach Jeremy Bates before. The chemistry with the team is a factor -- along with his ability to handle the New York tabloids.

 

Cowardly Casserly's opinion isn't worth the plastic grocery bag you take on a dog walk.

[bealeb319]

Cutler plus young inexperienced offensive line sounds like a good way for Mac and Bowles to find themselves unemployed. I would be disappointed if we are cutting players like mangold to make room for cutler

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[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, bealeb319 said:

Cutler plus young inexperienced offensive line sounds like a good way for Mac and Bowles to find themselves unemployed. I would be disappointed if we are cutting players like mangold to make room for cutler

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Maybe the thought process is a younger improved OL to protect the older QB we all know this is the Jets and they will probably do something like this.

[Lizard King]

Just when you thought this team couldn't get any worse 

[Fantasy Island]

Eyeore Cutler would be headline news.   He would be pouting on the sideline, in the game, at the press conference, and over our offer.   $2 million 1 year with incentives.

[win4ever]

On 2/23/2017 at 5:31 PM, rangerous said:

i looked up a number of qb's such as favre, rivers, rodgers, roethlisberger, prescott, wilson, eli manning, peyton manning, mariota, sanchez and smith. some of these guys are really stingy.  basically, cutler's interception rate is not the greatest but what really set the really good from the average is the td/int ration.  even with cutler's middling int rate he's light years ahead of the past few qb's the jets have had.  

i don't think anyone is advocating using him as the qb for the next 5 seasons but he can be a more effective 1 or 2 season stop gap than most of the other veterans available. although when i look at this further, by this criteria hoyer might be the better choice. if the intent is to get a guy for a season or two the last thing the jets need is another ego driven guy.

He is better than the ones we have thrown out there recently, but it's sort of saying farting is better than pooping in public.  Theoretically, yes, but it doesn't lead to a fun experience either way.  

I think that's part of my argument against him, in that this team needs a full rebuild rather than a stop gap.  The defense is bad, and the QB is bad.  They need a young QB to grow with Enunwa/Anderson/Peake/Marshall/Smith and I guess ASJ or a new TE.  The team isn't really the 2008 Jets were they were really just a good QB away from contending because they had a great defense set up, very good oline and RB situation brewing, and could get receivers if needed.  We also invested high picks on Petty/Hack and neither have been given a fair shot yet.  I thought Petty looked better than expected, given the state of the offensive line last year.  

Best case scenario with Cutler to me is a 8-8, 9-7 season.  I just don't think it's worth wasting money and time when we won't really go anywhere.  I'd rather see Petty/Hack play and see if we finally find a future QB that we can rely on for years.  

[Warfish]

If we're cutting the entire roster for cap space/rebuild, which almost all sources say is whats now happening, why would we want Cutler, an old, overpriced veteran on the last vestiges of his career?

So dumb, I almost believe the Jets might do it.