bla bla bla Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: The New York Jets- where the backup QBs are the most popular players in town And signing a top 5-10 QB in FA when you have an abundance of cap space for the next few years is sacrilegious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, #27TheDominator said: Losing 14-0, 14-7 and 14-10 = playing even? The ******* field goal was 46 yards. We weren't exactly knocking on the door. 14-10 is playing pretty even to me especially with us getting the ball back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: The New York Jets- where the backup QBs are the most popular players in town The New York Jets - where career backup QB's with 15 years of losing experience are anointed day 1 starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Because they are paying him money to essentially sit. Why not just go with Yates and Peterman and completely tank? Every team pays guys to sit. The Seahawks payed Matt Whashiname $10M to sit because they realized he wasnt good. Happens all the time. Again, are you the Bills accountant? As for tanking, again, they dont NEED to tank. They built up a ton of draft currency so they can move up high in the draft instead of going out and Browning the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, bla bla bla said: And signing a top 5-10 QB in FA when you have an abundance of cap space for the next few years is sacrilegious. Yep Bryce Petty will go into the Jets backup HOF. Matt Simms, Brett Ratliff, Kellen Clemens, Greg McElroy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I think the Raiders would have crushed us in the 2nd half anyway BUT we were very much in that game until the muffed punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, nyjunc said: I think the Raiders would have crushed us in the 2nd half anyway BUT we were very much in that game until the muffed punt. This past Game was really the first full bad game they’ve played all year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Yep Bryce Petty will go into the Jets backup HOF. Matt Simms, Brett Ratliff, Kellen Clemens, Greg McElroy, You are so far from understanding the point we are discussing its become a total waste of time to talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Every team pays guys to sit. The Seahawks payed Matt Whashiname $10M to sit because they realized he wasnt good. Happens all the time. Again, are you the Bills accountant? As for tanking, again, they dont NEED to tank. They built up a ton of draft currency so they can move up high in the draft instead of going out and Browning the season. Then why make him the starter? People here were asking why was McCown made the starter? We should ask the same question of Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Jet_Engine1 said: You are so far from understanding the point we are discussing its become a total waste of time to talk to. Not really. The point is that you would rather see Petty play over McCown because it entertains you more. It has nothing to do with Petty being “the guy” or McCown costing us draft position If you believed Petty was the guy why are you worried about draft position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yep. They drafted Peterman, they definitely had to like him. The guy was productive with 2 different programs, and there's a lot to be said about that. Agreed that their 5-4 record is a bit of a farce. Some fans around here are amazed that someone would make a QB change with a winning record, but unless you think your ceiling is high, 5-4 isn't a great record. In their case, they've kind of maxed out their potential to this point. And the Bills being in the playoff hunt with that record is more a reflection that the AFC is terrible this season. Let me tell you how & why this change was made. Unlike the Jets, the Bills are truly looking to upgrade EVERY position this year & next with a zillion draft picks coming their way. Also, unlike the Jets the Bills have a new staff eager to find out what they have in their young draft pick Peterman. So, they all took a quick plane ride to New Jersey & sat and watched in horror as the Jets, with a 38 year old loser take them to the woodshed, but...their was a small comeback in the 4th..a sign of life. But, reality stepped in & punched them in the face in a 37 point loss. So unlike the Jets Brass that look at a 5 point loss to Ryan Fitzpatrick, missing his #1 WR & scoring a whole 3 points in 59 minutes & 59 seconds, as a close game, the Bills do care about their future more than the RIGHT NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, Jetster said: Let me tell you how & why this change was made. Unlike the Jets, the Bills are truly looking to upgrade EVERY position this year & next with a zillion draft picks coming their way. Also, unlike the Jets the Bills have a new staff eager to find out what they have in their young draft pick Peterman. So, they all took a quick plane ride to New Jersey & sat and watched in horror as the Jets, with a 38 year old loser take them to the woodshed, but...their was a small comeback in the 4th..a sign of life. But, reality stepped in & punched them in the face in a 37 point loss. So unlike the Jets Brass that look at a 5 point loss to Ryan Fitzpatrick, missing his #1 WR & scoring a whole 3 points in 59 minutes & 59 seconds, as a close game, the Bills do care about their future more than the RIGHT NOW. But for a franchise that has not been to the playoffs in 20 years, to be in the mix and say “ahh no thanks, we want to care about the future” is very ballsy and will get fans angry. The Giants did the same thing with Kurt Warner and Eli. The Giants has also just gone to the super Bowl 3 years prior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: 14-10 is playing pretty even to me especially with us getting the ball back So, by played pretty even you mean "losing since the 1st quarter?" The Jets scored 20 points, the Raiders had 14 before we got our 2nd 1st down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Bad move by Buffalo. Taylor can play. That rookie better come in and play well right away. The teams 5-4 not 2-7. This is a young coach making a reactionary move to try and fire his team up who have gotten blown out 2 weeks in a row. But it's the wrong move unless Peterman gets them to the playoffs IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: This past Game was really the first full bad game they’ve played all year You really put a lot of stock in 1 1/2 drives against the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Not really. The point is that you would rather see Petty play over McCown because it entertains you more. It has nothing to do with Petty being “the guy” or McCown costing us draft position If you believed Petty was the guy why are you worried about draft position? No the point is that the Bills are confident that after seeing Tyrod for 2 1/2 season that they know who he is and he won't win them a championship. The Jets after seeing McCown for 15 seasons should know who he is and that he won't bring them a championship. We can be 95% sure that Petty is not "the guy" but still want to see him in live game action to make sure since we can only base this on 4 games of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, JetFreak89 said: No the point is that the Bills are confident that after seeing Tyrod for 2 1/2 season that they know who he is and he won't win them a championship. The Jets after seeing McCown for 15 seasons should know who he is and that he won't bring them a championship. We can be 95% sure that Petty is not "the guy" but still want to see him in live game action to make sure since we can only base this on 4 games of experience. Nope then you wouldn’t be worried about the Giants and Bills drafting a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Then why make him the starter? People here were asking why was McCown made the starter? We should ask the same question of Buffalo WE DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN START UNLESS HE PLAYS ACTUAL GAMES THAT CAN'T BE SIMULATED IN PRACTICE OR PRESEASONS. WE KNOW THAT JOSH MCCOWN IS 38 AND IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE LONG. WE KNOW THAT THE TEAM IS NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. THEREFORE WHY NOT FIND OUT IF A GUY CAN PLAY AND DUMP HIM IF HE CANNOT. Is that clear enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Bad move by Buffalo. Taylor can play. That rookie better come in and play well right away. The teams 5-4 not 2-7. This is a young coach making a reactionary move to try and fire his team up who have gotten blown out 2 weeks in a row. But it's the wrong move unless Peterman gets them to the playoffs IMO. You are ignoring a few things: 1. Peterman has looked good since camp and looked good against the Saints. 2. T-Rod is due $16M next year. The time to find out if you need him back is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: You really put a lot of stock in 1 1/2 drives against the Raiders. They played a bad second half. Sorry you can’t deny that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: WE DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN START UNLESS HE PLAYS ACTUAL GAMES THAT CAN'T BE SIMULATED IN PRACTICE OR PRESEASONS. WE KNOW THAT JOSH MCCOWN IS 38 AND IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE LONG. WE KNOW THAT THE TEAM IS NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. THEREFORE WHY NOT FIND OUT IF A GUY CAN PLAY AND DUMP HIM IF HE CANNOT. Is that clear enough for you? But I already know he can’t. Because he already has had playing time and he couldn’t stay healthy or else he might have started this regular season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: You are ignoring a few things: 1. Peterman has looked good since camp and looked good against the Saints. 2. T-Rod is due $16M next year. The time to find out if you need him back is now. T-Rod is their Ryan Fitzpatrick. The only difference is that the Jets were not in contention last year when people wanted them to pull him. The Bills ARE In playoff contention which is why people are upset. The only way this works is if Peterson leads them to the playoffs. Then he looks like a genus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: They played a bad second half. Sorry you can’t deny that Did I try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, #27TheDominator said: Did I try? No but that’s what it was. They played a bad second half against Oakland. They played a bad 60 minutes against Tampa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, #27TheDominator said: You are ignoring a few things: 1. Peterman has looked good since camp and looked good against the Saints. 2. T-Rod is due $16M next year. The time to find out if you need him back is now. Point 2 is a fair point that I overlooked but the team is still 5-4 and in the playoff picture. Switching QBs at this point is a very big decision to make . In my opinion you have to be right when you make that move at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Bad move by Buffalo. Taylor can play. That rookie better come in and play well right away. The teams 5-4 not 2-7. This is a young coach making a reactionary move to try and fire his team up who have gotten blown out 2 weeks in a row. But it's the wrong move unless Peterman gets them to the playoffs IMO. They overachieved their way to 5-4, and got exposed by New Orleans at home. They got beat down by 37 points and Tyrod only threw for 56 yards. Sometimes, you change the QB to send a message to the rest of the team as well, much like NHL teams pull their goalies out for someone else sometimes. Tyrod wasn't the only reason they got beat so badly by New Orleans, but he was a big reason. Tyrod has never been their guy, so all they needed was a decent reason to make the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: T-Rod is their Ryan Fitzpatrick. The only difference is that the Jets were not in contention last year when people wanted them to pull him. The Bills ARE In playoff contention The other only differences are that Taylor is considerably better than Ryan Fitzpatrick, is 28 years old and 10:3 TD/INT, plus another 2 rushing. Not 12:17. There are more "only difference"s but that is enough for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Tyrod has never been their guy, so all they needed was a decent reason to make the switch. So why did they bring him back and why was he the starting QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: But I already know he can’t. Because he already has had playing time and he couldn’t stay healthy or else he might have started this regular season You already know Petty can't because when playing with our Band of Misfit toys last year he got injured because the worst starting Center in the league hiked the ball at the wrong time and he took one of the most devastating hits a QB could take and because in preseason he had his leg rolled up on him by a lineman and suffered a 3 week injury? This is the level of intelligence we are arguing with here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, #27TheDominator said: The other only differences are that Taylor is considerably better than Ryan Fitzpatrick, is 28 years old and 10:3 TD/INT, plus another 2 rushing. Not 12:17. There are more "only difference"s but that is enough for now. In his second year he’s been much better. Can’t say for sure in his first year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, JetFreak89 said: You already know Petty can't because when playing with our Band of Misfit toys last year he got injured because the worst starting Center in the league hiked the ball at the wrong time and he took one of the most devastating hits a QB could take and because in preseason he had his leg rolled up on him by a lineman and suffered a 3 week injury? This is the level of intelligence we are arguing with here. I think he also suffered a concussion in his rookie season. Am I right or wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 The saddest part about this entire thread is that Tyrod Taylor has been benched & he's better than any QB currently on our roster. OMG we are in such a sorry state offensively. Defensively a CB & pass rusher and we're set to roll. Our offense is a disaster. Martavius Bryant would be the best WR on our team tomorrow,lol. Hell, a guy named Ju Ju would be too. Its a sin how long this ffranchise has ignored offense in an offensive leaning league. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: I think he also suffered a concussion in his rookie season. Am I right or wrong? There have been plenty of players that have started their career and had the injury-prone label on them only to turn it around and have successful career. If all 3 injuries were similar (especially if they were all throwing shoulder) you might have a point but luck plays a big factor in this as does experience (throwing the ball away quicker, moving away from fallen linemen, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Point 2 is a fair point that I overlooked but the team is still 5-4 and in the playoff picture. Switching QBs at this point is a very big decision to make . In my opinion you have to be right when you make that move at this point. I think Peterman may be McDermott's guy. 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: In his second year he’s been much better. Can’t say for sure in his first year Who is in their second year? What the **** are you even talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, #27TheDominator said: I think Peterman may be McDermott's guy. Who is in their second year? What the **** are you even talking about? Fitzpatrick’s second year was garbage. Taylor’s second year is statistically good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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