faba Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 McNabb finally fires back at T.O. Thursday, February 2, 2006 By DON BENEVENTO Courier-Post Staff It was a long time coming, but Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb finally answered the barrage of criticism he took from teammate Terrell Owens. He shared his own views Wednesday of what went wrong with the 6-10 team last season in an ESPN interview. McNabb said the 2005 season was "frustrating and disturbing" and he revealed his relationship with Owens was fractured earlier than previously known. He also said that the final straw for him was Owens' statement that the Eagles would have had a better record had Brett Favre been their quarterback. McNabb said he was offended by that comparison. "It was definitely a slap in the face to me," he said. "Because as deep as people won't go into it, it was a black-on-black crime. To say if we had Brett Favre, that could mean that if you had another quarterback of a different descent or ethnic background, we could be winning." McNabb said the feud between himself and Owens actually began in Week 12 of the 2004 season at the end of an otherwise innocuous play against the Giants. McNabb described a scenario on the third play of that game when Owens came open after McNabb had thrown an incomplete pass to Brian Westbrook. "He came back, "Hey, I was open, throw the ball!' McNabb said. "Me being into the game, (I said) "Hey, get in the huddle man.' In different words, obviously. He continued to talk about how he was open, throw the ball. And it (led) to me using some language that's really not suitable for the kids." The feud became public after the Super Bowl. Near the end of the Eagles' loss against the Patriots, the offense did not operate with the usual urgency of a team that is trailing. Not long after, Owens said, "I'm not the one who got tired in the Super Bowl," a clear jab at McNabb. For the record, McNabb said he did not tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 someone call don king & lets get these two in the ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'm not a TO fan by no means, but I don't think TO brought up Brett Favre in the context that McNabb is making it out to be. I could be wrong, but I just think that TO mentioned Favre because he feels McNabb just isn't on that same plateau...Favre could have been pink in this I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'm not a TO fan by no means, but I don't think TO brought up Brett Favre in the context that McNabb is making it out to be. I could be wrong, but I just think that TO mentioned Favre because he feels McNabb just isn't on that same plateau...Favre could have been pink in this I believe. First of all DM is a jackass 1) TO did not bring up Favreeeeeeee, the reporter did and TO just agreed with him. I believe it went this way Reporter- M Irvin stated Iggles would be doing better with Favre at QB, do you agree? TO - " I agree with that statement.... This was not a black vs white issue! DM is an arrogant ahole who BTW choked in the SB. If he would have played as well as TO they would have won! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 black on black crime! what an idiot..mcnabb is a prejudiced sob... It was a comment dude...and Farve is the standard on how a lot of QBs are judged.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 McNabb did tire in that SB. Doesn't matter, they lose regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickkotite Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 dm should have said that they would have been better off if marvin harrison was the WR. or if he wants to get racial, ed mccafrey what a retard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 dm should have said that they would have been better off if marvin harrison was the WR. or if he wants to get racial, ed mccafrey what a retard He could have said Wayne Chrebet. But then nobody would have believed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 .... i just wanted to see if the word censor took outthe first part of dk's name tooooo funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 1) McNabb was either out of shape (for an NFL QB) or was having a panic attack in last years SB. I found his performance in those last moments embarrassing. 2) T.O. is a self-absorbed arse, but NO WAY was that Favre comment racial....and I doubt Irvin's intention was to lead to a "black on black" crime. 3) Eagles should suck for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 McNabb is going to lose his lockeroom. He already is on thin ice with them and this might tip the scales. He is preceived as overly sensitive, and quick to point a finger. Not a good combination to have if you are in a position of leadership. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, and what Reid does to focus his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 McNabb should know better and just keep quiet- you lose when you get into these war of words no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlugORama99 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Not only is McNabb an *******, but he is also doing this on the week of the biggest game of the season. Why bring up negative information during the week of the Super Bowl? It does a disservice to the league and the 106 guys that are playing Sunday. Eat your chunky soup and shut the **** up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 McNabb is such a puss. The whole time TO was on the team, McNabb refused to talk about him and answer any questions. Now that TO is definately gone, McNabb starts telling his side of the story and tries to look like the good guy. McNabb doesn't have the balls to say anything to TO's face. Atleast TO was man enough to call out McNabb while he was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Can Donovan McNabb go one interview without mentioning that he's black? I wish someone would snap his ACL into 10 pieces so we could rid the league of this over-rated drama queen and his ****ing stupid soup commercials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiJet Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 McNabb is going to lose his lockeroom. He already is on thin ice with them and this might tip the scales. He is preceived as overly sensitive, and quick to point a finger. Not a good combination to have if you are in a position of leadership. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, and what Reid does to focus his team. I completely disagree. McNabb, before TO arrived, did everything to get his team's respect. Three NFC championship appearances, with bums at wr. Playing on a broken fibula and having arguably, the best game of his career. Keeping silent while this outsider, made an ass of himself, shows his selfishness, and talked about the man's family, while also airing the team's dirty laundry to the media and millions of people. TO was completely classless and imho, did everything in his power to lose the respect of his teammates. He crossed the line and broke several taboos. Should I also bring up the fight in the lockerrom, the one in which TO openly challenged Hugh Douglass and all takers? McNabb was well within his right to speak up and basically beat TO's ass, but no he didn't. He showed extreme restraint and professionalism in not saying anything, simply taking one for the team, in an attempt to keep the chemistry of the team solid. He was the good soldier. McNabb was the one who walked away from TO, when he acted like a bitch on the sidelines, begging for the football. McNabb was the one who showed class. Now he losing respect from his teammates? WTF?!? Again, I failt o see how McNabb lost anything, much less respect from his team. That, to me, is bull****. I don't buy it. McNabb gets credit from me for keeping quiet for so long. Some question why now? Why speak about this during the Superbowl. The same people that give TO a pass, because a reporter happened to ask him about Favre, should give McNabb that ame damn pass. How long could you hold off without saying something? Ownes is an ass and McNabb should be applauded for speaking. We get angry when athletes or people in the public eye provide a PC answer or staement. This is a man that stewed, and stayed silent for so long and when faced with a question, felt it necessary to provide the truth. Now people dog him. WTF?!? Want to give him a rough time for the black on black stuff? I can understand that. Don't give him grief for finally speaking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I completely disagree. McNabb, before TO arrived, did everything to get his team's respect. Three NFC championship appearances, with bums at wr. Playing on a broken fibula and having arguably, the best game of his career. Keeping silent while this outsider, made an ass of himself, shows his selfishness, and talked about the man's family, while also airing the team's dirty laundry to the media and millions of people. TO was completely classless and imho, did everything in his power to lose the respect of his teammates. He crossed the line and broke several taboos. Should I also bring up the fight in the lockerrom, the one in which TO openly challenged Hugh Douglass and all takers? McNabb was well within his right to speak up and basically beat TO's ass, but no he didn't. He showed extreme restraint and professionalism in not saying anything, simply taking one for the team, in an attempt to keep the chemistry of the team solid. He was the good soldier. McNabb was the one who walked away from TO, when he acted like a bitch on the sidelines, begging for the football. McNabb was the one who showed class. Now he losing respect from his teammates? WTF?!? Again, I failt o see how McNabb lost anything, much less respect from his team. That, to me, is bull****. I don't buy it. McNabb gets credit from me for keeping quiet for so long. Some question why now? Why speak about this during the Superbowl. The same people that give TO a pass, because a reporter happened to ask him about Favre, should give McNabb that ame damn pass. How long could you hold off without saying something? Ownes is an ass and McNabb should be applauded for speaking. We get angry when athletes or people in the public eye provide a PC answer or staement. This is a man that stewed, and stayed silent for so long and when faced with a question, felt it necessary to provide the truth. Now people dog him. WTF?!? Want to give him a rough time for the black on black stuff? I can understand that. Don't give him grief for finally speaking out. It is funny to me that Hugh Douglas, TO's challenger in locker room fight, has come out and verbally attacked DM We know TO is an arse off the field, On the field this dude lights it up. MIamijet- Who choked in SB DM or TO??? TO was a hired gun, iggles knew what they were getting and guess what they got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 How bout this - those 2 fight it out and nobody writes about it or cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 McNabb comes out looking like the jerk because he had months to come out with a statement and when he does, it is factually incorrect. TO did not bring Favre's name up, the reporter did. The comparison was QB vs QB, not black vs white. McNabb goes from taking the high road to looking like a friggin jackass by opening his mouth and playing the race card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 The Eagles have coddled, sheltered and tried to hide McNabb from conflict while he has been an Eagle. His other teammates have witnessed this and it has created a sense of resentment in teh lockerroom. There has always been the Donovan standard with the FO , and then evreyone else. They partly have done this because McNabb is very sensitive to criticism and how people perceive this. On WIP (local Philly sports radio) yesterday they had Douglas on and teh story came out how Donovan went to the FO and complained that when he entered teh lockerroom, all converstaions stopped, as if he was the topic. That is how sensitve this guy is, and it is how his teammates perceive him. They made the good analogy between and another former Philly Soprts star-Eric Lindros. The parallels are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 How bout this - those 2 fight it out and nobody writes about it or cares. The next WWE, TNA, or Ultimate Fighting pay per view perhaps? I can see it now...WWE presents TO/McNabb part I Sponsored by Campbell's Chunky Soup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 The next WWE, TNA, or Ultimate Fighting pay per view perhaps? I can see it now...WWE presents TO/McNabb part I Sponsored by Campbell's Chunky Soup Careful Heelz, not fat jokes. The Gestapo is looking at you. How bout dem Heels!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Careful Heelz, not fat jokes. The Gestapo is looking at you. How bout dem Heels!!!!!!! Hey I can make fat jokes, I am part of that group myself!! Nice win by the heels...this is the time of year when they count the most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Hey I can make fat jokes, I am part of that group myself!! Nice win by the heels...this is the time of year when they count the most ya, i think that win last night will count for alot of RPI points come tourney selection time. I was more impressed by them winning after Tyler went out with 4 fouls, 11 minutes to go and the score tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Yeah it was a big win. Maryland was undefeated at home this season until last night. The thing that worries me most is our problem with turnovers. We have been able to survive a few games with alot of turnovers but down the stretch it won't happen. You can't expect to stay in a game against a team like Duke and have 15 or 20+ turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Yeah it was a big win. Maryland was undefeated at home this season until last night. The thing that worries me most is our problem with turnovers. We have been able to survive a few games with alot of turnovers but down the stretch it won't happen. You can't expect to stay in a game against a team like Duke and have 15 or 20+ turnovers. ya i agree, this is a result of youth i think. I dont expect anything more than 2 wins in acc tourney and NCAAs, but it would be a major surprise to accomplish that based on preseason expectations and the fact we have virtually all freshman. watch out next year Baby!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Yeah it was a big win. Maryland was undefeated at home this season until last night. The thing that worries me most is our problem with turnovers. We have been able to survive a few games with alot of turnovers but down the stretch it won't happen. You can't expect to stay in a game against a team like Duke and have 15 or 20+ turnovers. You won't have to worry cause your are not beating Duke this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 You won't have to worry cause your are not beating Duke this year probably true, tuf for 7 freshman to beat a vet Duke squad, unless JJ goes into a funk (or smokes some more killer Ganja) By the way, you think they might beat them next year? http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=477059&sid=910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 You won't have to worry cause your are not beating Duke this year Anything can happen during any given game Assmop. How did that Georgetown game go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Anything can happen during any given game Assmop. How did that Georgetown game go? I believe Duke will get up for Heels, hoyas are not a big rival also SJ is a NCstate fan in Heels clothing.... beware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 In case you havent noticed, we a basketball school now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 The next WWE, TNA, or Ultimate Fighting pay per view perhaps? I can see it now...WWE presents TO/McNabb part I Sponsored by Campbell's Chunky Soup I was thinking the same heelz - or better yet - a cage match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 also SJ is a NCstate fan in Heels clothing.... beware No way, I'd be able to tell. Like Dook fans I can detect state fans' foul stench within a 15 foot radius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 No way, I'd be able to tell. Like Dook fans I can detect state fans' foul stench within a 15 foot radius. I have 'too' much invested in UNC to not be a fan. I used to go to State games 25 years ago when I got free tickets (couldnt get UNC tickets),,, But of course, over the years I realized where the real program was (havin 6 figures invested there doesnt hurt either ) Too bad ASSMOP moved, jetheelz, we could have taken him to a Carolina game. After all, all Dookies hang out on Franklin St. anways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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