2021 New York Mets Thread

[RutgersJetFan]

Really can’t think of too many scarier plays in my lifetime than that Pillar pitch. Looked like it shook that pitcher to the core too. ******* brutal. Baseball is a much more dangerous game than we give it credit for.

How about Pillar tough as nails getting up too? If you wanna become loved in NY that is how you become loved in NY. 

[Maynard13]

5 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Really can’t think of too many scarier plays in my lifetime than that Pillar pitch. Looked like it shook that pitcher to the core too. ******* brutal. Baseball is a much more dangerous game than we give it credit for.

How about Pillar tough as nails getting up too? If you wanna become loved in NY that is how you become loved in NY. 

Brutal. Could have hit him in the eye. Looks like he got hit in the nose. This is not good. Pillar was just slamming filling in for Nimmo. He could be gone for quite awhile ? This team is just going  through emergency after emergency. Thor, Lugo, deGrom, Carrasco, McNeil, Conforto, Pillar. Still in 1st. How much longer can this go on.

[Anthony Jet]

2 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

Brutal. Could have hit him in the eye. Looks like he got hit in the nose. This is not good. Pillar was just slamming filling in for Nimmo. He could be gone for quite awhile ? This team is just going  through emergency after emergency. Thor, Lugo, deGrom, Carrasco, McNeil, Conforto, Pillar. Still in 1st. How much longer can this go on.

Just a hunch but I don’t see pillar being sidelined to long 

[section314]

7 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Really can’t think of too many scarier plays in my lifetime than that Pillar pitch. Looked like it shook that pitcher to the core too. ******* brutal. Baseball is a much more dangerous game than we give it credit for.

How about Pillar tough as nails getting up too? If you wanna become loved in NY that is how you become loved in NY. 

Did you hear the story Darling told when Gary asked him if he ever hit a player like this?  Ronnie said he never did as a pro, but once as an amateur in a summer league. He said he told his coach that he just couldn't pitch anymore that season, that he needed time to get his head back together. said his coach listened to him and didn't pitch him the rest of the summer. Then Ronnie said" My coach saved me." You could just hear the emotion in his voice telling the story after watching what happened to Pillar.You can just feel for that young kid who hit him. Almost an hour later, they showed the pitcher still sitting in the same spot on the bench, and Gary remarked that he didn't have to be there. Darling's response was great......"Gary, trust me, he can't move."  Powerful stuff.

[Lith]

2 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

Brutal. Could have hit him in the eye. Looks like he got hit in the nose. This is not good. Pillar was just slamming filling in for Nimmo. He could be gone for quite awhile ? This team is just going  through emergency after emergency. Thor, Lugo, deGrom, Carrasco, McNeil, Conforto, Pillar. Still in 1st. How much longer can this go on.

Just gotta tread water until guys get healthy.  Lucky that nobody in the DIvision got off to a fast start, and we are somehow still holding on to first place. 

Report just came out, multiple nasal fractures for Pillar.  Bad, but could have been so much worse.  One of the scariest plays that I have seen on a baseball field.

 

[section314]

16 minutes ago, Lith said:

Just gotta tread water until guys get healthy.  Lucky that nobody in the DIvision got off to a fast start, and we are somehow still holding on to first place. 

Report just came out, multiple nasal fractures for Pillar.  Bad, but could have been so much worse.  One of the scariest plays that I have seen on a baseball field.

 

The scariest thing I ever saw in person was in 1973 in a game vs the Atlanta Braves, ironically. I was with my Dad, and it was a day game on a Saturday. Ralph Garr hit a ball up the alley in left center field, and George Theodore and Don Hahn( two great names from the past) collided going full speed. One of them actually caught it before the violent collision. I think Hahn got up and picked up the ball and threw it into the infield, then collapsed again. Theodore never moved. They had to bring in an ambulance through the center field fence opening right below the 410 sign. Finally, they took Theodore to the hospital, and Hahn was able to wallk off the field on his own. I believe Theodore may have broke his collar bone, and was out for months. Hahn was out for a bit. It looked like some of those old NFL films shots of DB's laying out WR's back in the old days.

[JustInFudge]

That was so gnarly.  I dont think I'll ever be able to erase the look of shock and the blood that followed.  Wow.  

Gutsy win too.  Have to give them credit for battling through this until they get healthy again.  Hopefully the can just stay .500 during that time and pitching continues to carry the team

[JustInFudge]

Pillar just handed the Ump the line up card.  Looked awful but super cool moment.  

[section314]

29 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

Pillar just handed the Ump the line up card.  Looked awful but super cool moment.  

Did he get an ovation from the crowd?

[Lith]

9 minutes ago, section314 said:

Did he get an ovation from the crowd?

Here is the clip.  Does not sound like much reaaction from the crowd, but I doubt they even relaized he was the one bringing in out.

 

[Anthony Jet]

On 5/16/2021 at 8:06 PM, RutgersJetFan said:

Hello darkness my old friend

And then they have back to back games like this 
 

Not really sure what to make of this team.

[section314]

2 hours ago, Anthony Jet said:

And then they have back to back games like this 
 

Not really sure what to make of this team.

I think the one obvious thing is that Sandy has really started to add talent to the team and organization through some good signings and trades. Bringing in guys like Pillar, Villar and Almora, though two of these guys are now on DL. The trades that brought Reid-Foley and Kalil Lee have added quality to the farm system, and those guys are playing a vital part right now in keeping this team afloat until some of the regulars get back. The "bench mob" is doing a great job, and even they are losing guys. You can't expect your bench to play great for an extended period of time, but you do need them over the course of a season to give you a few games here and there. In past years, we  were so lacking depth, that this team would have probably been 10 games under .500 by now.  Oh, one other thing....maybe this Rojas guy can manage a bit, too.

[Lith]

2 hours ago, section314 said:

I think the one obvious thing is that Sandy has really started to add talent to the team and organization through some good signings and trades. Bringing in guys like Pillar, Villar and Almora, though two of these guys are now on DL. The trades that brought Reid-Foley and Kalil Lee have added quality to the farm system, and those guys are playing a vital part right now in keeping this team afloat until some of the regulars get back. The "bench mob" is doing a great job, and even they are losing guys. You can't expect your bench to play great for an extended period of time, but you do need them over the course of a season to give you a few games here and there. In past years, we  were so lacking depth, that this team would have probably been 10 games under .500 by now.  Oh, one other thing....maybe this Rojas guy can manage a bit, too.

There is a lot to like about this team right now.  They are guttting out wins, without getting contributions from the guys who were expected to carry both the rotation and the lineup.  It is fun to watch them compete every night.  But I gotta admit I am getting nervous about all of these bullpen innings so early in the season.  The good news is that the rotation should look a lot different by the end of June, and we will have some fresh arms to take stress of the pen.  They have been great, but the amount of early season usage makes me nervous.

[section314]

54 minutes ago, Lith said:

There is a lot to like about this team right now.  They are guttting out wins, without getting contributions from the guys who were expected to carry both the rotation and the lineup.  It is fun to watch them compete every night.  But I gotta admit I am getting nervous about all of these bullpen innings so early in the season.  The good news is that the rotation should look a lot different by the end of June, and we will have some fresh arms to take stress of the pen.  They have been great, but the amount of early season usage makes me nervous.

Totally agree on the pen. Need a minimum of 7 complete today from Peterson. 

[Lith]

 

[Lith]

8 strikeouts in 3 innings.  I guess that is what happens with Single A kids against deGrom.

[chirorob]

20 hours ago, Lith said:

8 strikeouts in 3 innings.  I guess that is what happens with Single A kids against deGrom.

Yahoo had a great article about it.   8 of the kids were born after 2000, they were kids.  10 batters faced, 8Ks, only baserunner was on an error by the 2nd baseman.  He was probably bored and fell asleep.

https://sports.yahoo.com/low-a-minor-league-palm-beach-cardinals-jacob-degrom-rehab-start-045452866.html

[Lith]

Just the way they drew it up in the offseason.  Single by Jake Hager,  Back to back doubles by Johneswhy Fargas and Khalil Lee. Jacob Barnes gets the last out for the save.

[JustInFudge]

Love watching the Mets trying to make a comeback in the 9th, lead off homer by none other then big time baller, Brandon Drury and then our steady clutch performer Patrick Mazeika hits a no out single.  9th inning, runner on, no outs and yeah baby big time Mets offseason acquisitions are coming to the plate to finish the comeback!!!!!  Villar - strikeout, Lindor - pop out and McCann - strikeout.

LFGM BABY!!!!!!!!!

[section314]

12 minutes ago, JiFapono said:

Love watching the Mets trying to make a comeback in the 9th, lead off homer by none other then big time baller, Brandon Drury and then our steady clutch performer Patrick Mazeika hits a no out single.  9th inning, runner on, no outs and yeah baby big time Mets offseason acquisitions are coming to the plate to finish the comeback!!!!!  Villar - strikeout, Lindor - pop out and McCann - strikeout.

LFGM BABY!!!!!!!!!

I guess the sac bunt is permanently out of the Mets playbook, sort of like the shovel pass is gone from the Jets after the Bubby Brister disaster years ago in Carolina? With all the injuries so far this season, it's bringing back memories of the 1973 Mets. Hope this ends the same way, with one more win though to end the postseason. One bright spot, maybe, is that with the extended length for Conforto on the DL. we can probably get him back cheap. Took a risk in his walk year.....advantage Cohen.?

[JustInFudge]

1 hour ago, section314 said:

I guess the sac bunt is permanently out of the Mets playbook, sort of like the shovel pass is gone from the Jets after the Bubby Brister disaster years ago in Carolina? With all the injuries so far this season, it's bringing back memories of the 1973 Mets. Hope this ends the same way, with one more win though to end the postseason. One bright spot, maybe, is that with the extended length for Conforto on the DL. we can probably get him back cheap. Took a risk in his walk year.....advantage Cohen.?

I understood Villar hitting and not trying to advance the runner...best hitter left in the line up, no outs.  Its just he struck out looking.  lol  Hard to hate on McCann being he provided the only run up to that point but you knew he was toast 

And then Lindor, what a sh*t show this guy is at the plate.  My god.  It's great he's at least starting to get contact and find the bases on occasion but wow.  Talk about not plan, no conviction, just looks like a guy who doesnt want to be in the box.  I'm worried he's done for good and completely lost all feel at the plate.  Great glove but right now, this dude isnt worth half that contract.  Now, if we make the playoffs and playoff Lindor comes alive, maybe all is forgiven but I couldnt imagine that happening in a million years with that way he takes the plate.  I'll occassionally watch an inning of women collegiate softball just see if there are any hotties on the team and these chicks swing the bat 100000x harder then Lindor.  Everyone one of them, even the specialist bunters!!!  Speaking of which, they did have Vargas lay one down a few games ago....but dont remember much more.

[section314]

2 hours ago, JiFapono said:

I understood Villar hitting and not trying to advance the runner...best hitter left in the line up, no outs.  Its just he struck out looking.  lol  Hard to hate on McCann being he provided the only run up to that point but you knew he was toast 

And then Lindor, what a sh*t show this guy is at the plate.  My god.  It's great he's at least starting to get contact and find the bases on occasion but wow.  Talk about not plan, no conviction, just looks like a guy who doesnt want to be in the box.  I'm worried he's done for good and completely lost all feel at the plate.  Great glove but right now, this dude isnt worth half that contract.  Now, if we make the playoffs and playoff Lindor comes alive, maybe all is forgiven but I couldnt imagine that happening in a million years with that way he takes the plate.  I'll occassionally watch an inning of women collegiate softball just see if there are any hotties on the team and these chicks swing the bat 100000x harder then Lindor.  Everyone one of them, even the specialist bunters!!!  Speaking of which, they did have Vargas lay one down a few games ago....but dont remember much more.

Lindor is stealing $ right now.

[Icer]

Both Lindor and McCann signings looking real bad right now, and with the entire team on the IL its hard to watch

At least Jake is back tonight

[Lith]

12 minutes ago, Icer said:

Both Lindor and McCann signings looking real bad right now, and with the entire team on the IL its hard to watch

At least Jake is back tonight

Jake should bat third in this lineup.

[Lith]

4 hours ago, JiFapono said:

I understood Villar hitting and not trying to advance the runner...best hitter left in the line up, no outs.  Its just he struck out looking.  lol  Hard to hate on McCann being he provided the only run up to that point but you knew he was toast 

And then Lindor, what a sh*t show this guy is at the plate.  My god.  It's great he's at least starting to get contact and find the bases on occasion but wow.  Talk about not plan, no conviction, just looks like a guy who doesnt want to be in the box.  I'm worried he's done for good and completely lost all feel at the plate.  Great glove but right now, this dude isnt worth half that contract.  Now, if we make the playoffs and playoff Lindor comes alive, maybe all is forgiven but I couldnt imagine that happening in a million years with that way he takes the plate.  I'll occassionally watch an inning of women collegiate softball just see if there are any hotties on the team and these chicks swing the bat 100000x harder then Lindor.  Everyone one of them, even the specialist bunters!!!  Speaking of which, they did have Vargas lay one down a few games ago....but dont remember much more.

I just don't get what happened to Lindor.  At this point, it is way beyond slow start.  Over his last 100 games, 60 last year and 40 this year, 384 at bats, the guy is hitting .232, 11 HRs and 36 RBI..  Its like he fell off a cliff after 2019.  I was thrilled when we acquired him, discounted his off year last season thinking it was such a strange season, but now it looks like he is washed up at 27.  The guy has turned into Rey Ordonez at the plate, although Ordonez OPS was better than Lindor's has been as a Met.

Lucky we only have 9 1/2 more seasons of him at his $341M contract

[JustInFudge]

1 hour ago, Lith said:

I just don't get what happened to Lindor.  At this point, it is way beyond slow start.  Over his last 100 games, 60 last year and 40 this year, 384 at bats, the guy is hitting .232, 11 HRs and 36 RBI..  Its like he fell off a cliff after 2019.  I was thrilled when we acquired him, discounted his off year last season thinking it was such a strange season, but now it looks like he is washed up at 27.  The guy has turned into Rey Ordonez at the plate, although Ordonez OPS was better than Lindor's has been as a Met.

Lucky we only have 9 1/2 more seasons of him at his $341M contract

Funny, the fam is already calling him Francisco Ordonez.  lol

Huge cliff this dude fell off, baffling.  He just doesnt seem to care though.  Legit.  He brings nothing to the plate. 

 

[Lith]

Not going to get much out of Thor this year (if anything).  

[Icer]

Syndergaard will be lucky to get the Qualifying Offer next year at this rate. Probably another washed season. Like 3.5 of the last 5 prime years

[32EBoozer]

On 5/25/2021 at 5:04 PM, Icer said:

Both Lindor and McCann signings looking real bad right now, and with the entire team on the IL its hard to watch

At least Jake is back tonight

McCann rocked it 2nite vs. Braves in 13-1 (last I saw) route. Last I saw 3-4 3 runs 2 RBI

T Walker pitched 5 completed 1 run 8 SO  Pulled at 80 pitches… smart TTD

Ozuna accused of domestic assault and choking against wife. Out injured for 4-6 weeks but doesn’t look good  Acuna & Freeman were neutralized  

25-5     3.5 clear of the Braves even with all these injuries  Phil’s a mess with Gerardo starting to lose clubhouse  Nats flatlined for awhile

 

[Lith]

8 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

McCann rocked it 2nite vs. Braves in 13-1 (last I saw) route. Last I saw 3-4 3 runs 2 RBI

T Walker pitched 5 completed 1 run 8 SO  Pulled at 80 pitches… smart TTD

Ozuna accused of domestic assault and choking against wife. Out injured for 4-6 weeks but doesn’t look good  Acuna & Freeman were neutralized  

25-5     3.5 clear of the Braves even with all these injuries  Phil’s a mess with Gerardo starting to lose clubhouse  Nats flatlined for awhile

 

Fun game last night.  Maybin finally gets a hit, Lindor going deep,  Had it on the laptop with the hockey game on TV, and it helped take some of the sting out of the Isles loss.

McCann is swinging a real nice bat over the past week or so.  Seemed to coincide with Nido playing well.  Not just at bat, but we actually have two catchers who can throw guys out.  

More than half the opening day lineup on the IL.  Lindor struggling to reach the Mendoza line.  A rookie who sets an MLB record for consecutive  strikeouts to start a career.  A veteran who takes a team record setting oh-for to start his Mets career.  Down to our 5th or 6th CF on the depth chart.  Despite it all, still 5 games over .500 and leading the Division.  Just keep treading water until we get some guys back and we will be fine.

Season so far has been a lot of frustration but also a lot of fun to see the guys battle night in and night out,

[32EBoozer]

1 hour ago, Lith said:

Season so far has been a lot of frustration but also a lot of fun to see the guys battle night in and night out,

Agreed. Some of the names on the lineup card is a who’s - who of JAG players. So happy for them coming up with the big hit or defensive play. Through it all the bullpen has been the stalwart positional group. 

[Lith]

1 hour ago, 32EBoozer said:

Agreed. Some of the names on the lineup card is a who’s - who of JAG players. So happy for them coming up with the big hit or defensive play. Through it all the bullpen has been the stalwart positional group. 

Yeah, bullpen has been great, but I don't thik it is sustainable to rely this heavily on them over 162 games.  Kind of a catch 22 for Rojas, you want to limit innings for starters battling through injury, but we have had so many games where the pen has had to give us 5+ innings that you need starters to go deeper.  Getting Lugo back this week will help.

[Defense Wins Championships]

I'm late to the party but omg was that Kevin Pillar pitch to the face scary. Nightmarish type of scary. One of the scariest players I've ever seen. 

However. The scariest play I've ever witnessed in baseball was almost 10 years  ago (2013). 

I really thought he passed away. Until he started to squirm his legs; I thought he was dead on the baseball field. Worst feeling I've ever had as a fan while watching a sporting event (Alex Cobb is a warrior). 

Baseball is (imo) the most dangerous sport (potentially) because nothing is more dangerous than a 100+ MPH fast ball hitting your face and/or a baseball hit off a bat at over 150 mph velocity cracking you in your skull (I'd rather be hit by Mike Tyson in his prime before having to live thru what guys like Pillar/Cobb lived thru). 

But Yeah. As a Rays fan I'll always be a fan of the underdog. And your Mets are having an awesome year, despite injuries. First place of the N.L East and by a good margin too. 

I'd really love to see a Rays/Mets World Series one day; you guys have a really fun team to root for this year. 

Knicks/Islanders/Mets/Yankees all having above .500 seasons this year (even Rangers finished above .500) and NYC sports is awesome right now (hoping Jets are next on deck). 

[JustInFudge]

On 5/30/2021 at 10:56 AM, Lith said:

Yeah, bullpen has been great, but I don't thik it is sustainable to rely this heavily on them over 162 games.  Kind of a catch 22 for Rojas, you want to limit innings for starters battling through injury, but we have had so many games where the pen has had to give us 5+ innings that you need starters to go deeper.  Getting Lugo back this week will help.

Getting Lugo and Currasco back will definitely help for sure.  Another arm to go a little deeper and another solid relief guy who can give you long stretches.

But I dont know what's more exciting this season, the fact we keep winning and overcoming these injuries and are in 1st place or the fact that Jake DeGrom is the best player in baseball.  They're going to have to list him as a pinch hitter come crunch time when he's not pitching.  0.71 era.  .450 BA.  unreal

[section314]

Pillar is one tough, gutty SOB.