batman10023 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Surprising. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/18/aaron-rodgers-has-16-consecutive-games-with-less-than-300-passing-yards/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Don’t worry, he’s just a youngster in today’s NFL. The game just might be too fast for him right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TuscanyTile2 Posted November 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2022 ZW was used as an example of a bad QB. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Surprising. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/18/aaron-rodgers-has-16-consecutive-games-with-less-than-300-passing-yards/ But .. but. ... But. .. Zach Sucks cause ... Ah fug it.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Rodgers might not be on GB next year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: But .. but. ... But. .. Zach Sucks cause ... Ah fug it. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk LOL was about to post something snippy about how Zach never threw for 300yrds, then realized he just did that against the Pats (despite losing the game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Rodgers might not be on GB next year Its time to rebuild. They need to do what Seattle did with Russ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted November 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2022 Not that crazy and not damning at all. Why is 300 yards a measuring stick? Very silly. Yards are accumulated in numerous ways. To give some color to this stat, he has 29 TD's over that time frame. And 17 games ago, he threw for 300 yards 3 games in a row. Prior to that stretch, he threw for 300 yards once, in 17 games and during that time frame, he acquired two MVP trophies. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Rodgers might not be on GB next year Sign this beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtnelson Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 They could have gotten the bag and pulled a Seattle. Instead they are holding the bag and looking at a number of years of being terrible. For the number of decades that they've been in a "superbowl window", it does make me smile to see GB fans have to endure a truly bad team, probably for a few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, JiFapono said: Not that crazy and not damning at all. Why is 300 yards a measuring stick? Very silly. Yards are accumulated in numerous ways. To give some color to this stat, he has 29 TD's over that time frame. And 17 games ago, he threw for 300 yards 3 games in a row. Prior to that stretch, he threw for 300 yards once, in 17 games and during that time frame, he acquired two MVP trophies. fans always obsess over total yards (passing, rushing, overall), but what actually matters is yards PER ATTEMPT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, slimjasi said: fans always obsess over total yards (passing, rushing, overall), but what actually matters is yards PER ATTEMPT Meh, I'd argue TD's because they count as points on the scoreboard which is how you win and lose Football games, but sure, that's important too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, slimjasi said: fans always obsess over total yards (passing, rushing, overall), but what actually matters is yards PER ATTEMPT Rodgers is in the back half of the league in that stat this year. Agree with you it's a much more telling stat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Biggs said: Rodgers is in the back half of the league in that stat this year. Agree with you it's a much more telling stat. Yep, Rodgers is also getting old. No question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 The Great New England Patriots knew when to cut the cord with the GOAT Tom Brady, even if he then went off and won a Super Bowl. GB incurs a Dead Cap hit of $68mm next year to cut him. They needed to just say no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, batman10023 said: Surprising. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/18/aaron-rodgers-has-16-consecutive-games-with-less-than-300-passing-yards/ Rodgers is over the hill He shouldn’t be playing any more Look at Rivers, Ben, Eli, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 If I didn't know better, it almost seems like good QBs need good WRs and TEs to throw to if they want to be successful..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, JiFapono said: Meh, I'd argue TD's because they count as points on the scoreboard which is how you win and lose Football games, but sure, that's important too! Not really since Zach literally has had like 11 passes tackled at the one yard line maybe more. It is a weird anomaly that makes Zach's stats look worse than they are. If I was going to list the most important stats for a QB none of them would be the core statistics we use for the most part. To me the most important stats are: 3rd down conversion rate 4th quarter QB rating Yards per attempt Completion percentage is just SOOOO massively overrated. Say you had a QB that threw every down. He has a 33% completion rate all of his completions were 10 yards or longer. He would be unstoppable. On the flip side you have a QB that completes every pass but none is longer than 3 yards. He would never lead his team to a first down. Interception rate is somewhat important but if you are strong at the Top 3 I listed your INT rate will be good as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, varjet said: The Great New England Patriots knew when to cut the cord with the GOAT Tom Brady, even if he then went off and won a Super Bowl. GB incurs a Dead Cap hit of $68mm next year to cut him. They needed to just say no. So hard to do with a two time running MVP but you are right. GB probably should have franchised him and taken the 2 first round picks but that would have also been a super unpopular move. GB did the right thing in dumping Favre but Love is definitely not Rodgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, johnnysd said: Not really since Zach literally has had like 11 passes tackled at the one yard line maybe more. It is a weird anomaly that makes Zach's stats look worse than they are. If I was going to list the most important stats for a QB none of them would be the core statistics we use for the most part. To me the most important stats are: 3rd down conversion rate 4th quarter QB rating Yards per attempt Completion percentage is just SOOOO massively overrated. Say you had a QB that threw every down. He has a 33% completion rate all of his completions were 10 yards or longer. He would be unstoppable. On the flip side you have a QB that completes every pass but none is longer than 3 yards. He would never lead his team to a first down. Interception rate is somewhat important but if you are strong at the Top 3 I listed your INT rate will be good as well. 11? lol Keeping track? Disagree w/ your entire take other than 3rd down conversion rate. TD's are points, points are how you score, when you score more than the other team, you win!!!! All you need to do is look at the top 10 QB's for TD passes, 2 of the top 10 are on losing teams? The others? Chiefs, Bills, Bengals, Dolphins, Seattle, Balt, Min, Philly - notice a trend? Yes, they're all first or second place in their divisions, all above .500. Completion percentage is not overrated, at all. It's extremely important to your overall efficiency on offense and your ability to call plays. A 50/50 coin toss on if a play will even see it's birth is a horrible percentage and very hard to sustain success on offense. INT's are overrated but only if you have a QB w/ equalizer ability. Otherwise, they're back breaking and kill your team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 4 hours ago, PepPep said: LOL was about to post something snippy about how Zach never threw for 300yrds, then realized he just did that against the Pats (despite losing the game). Yes, but for a QB wins and losses don't matter. From what I understand from the Jet fan base - losses but throwing for a lot of yards is better than going 5-1. Seems strange that the one game Jet fans are really killing Zach for is the one he three for 355 yards. Just wonder if the Jet DIDN'T have a good running and DIDN'T have a good defense...what type of stats Zach would be putting up. I suspect he would be throwing for a heck of a lot more yards. BUT...the Psychosis around doesn't allow Jet fans to see the reality of the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, JiFapono said: 11? lol Keeping track? Disagree w/ your entire take other than 3rd down conversion rate. I would expect nothing else. We don't view QBs the same. Maybe I will be proven wrong and Fields will be a super star but just don't see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xJayce Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 8 hours ago, batman10023 said: Surprising. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/18/aaron-rodgers-has-16-consecutive-games-with-less-than-300-passing-yards/ Don't QBs generally end up with more passing yard when they're behind or don't have a good run game? Why are people so enthralled with yards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, johnnysd said: On the flip side you have a QB that completes every pass but none is longer than 3 yards. He would never lead his team to a first down. Chad Pennington says hi. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, jamesr said: Chad Pennington says hi. true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 46 minutes ago, xJayce said: Don't QBs generally end up with more passing yard when they're behind or don't have a good run game? Why are people so enthralled with yards? Totally agree. Can’t believe Aaron Rodgers has a losing record and no 300 yard games this year. Wilson has best record for qb this year and more 300 yard games than Aaron! elite!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 18 hours ago, johnnysd said: I would expect nothing else. We don't view QBs the same. Maybe I will be proven wrong and Fields will be a super star but just don't see it You dont want your QB to score TD's and complete passes? I'm so confused by your "view" because it seems pretty simple. lol I just showed you that 8 of the top 10 QB's in TD this season, are also either winning their division or a game behind. That's pretty strong evidence that having a QB who scores TD's, is a good thing. I have no clue what Justin Fields has to do with this but you dont see things that seem plainly obvious, so...///shrugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Zach Wilson had a (single) 300 yard game in his first two seasons so far. One he was the primary cause of losing, in which he had three picks, and a QB rating of 64.6. Aaron Rodger is over the hill on bad team. Zach Wilson is still about ten miles of tough terrain away from climbing that hill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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