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Dunnie Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Steelers beat the Ravens 17-10 back in October with Lamar as well. Was that the game Lamar ended with the pick in the end zone followed by a strip sack ?Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1. Lamar was never actually available. 2. Main issue people have had with Lamar is he's a different guy in the playoffs. I would pump the breaks before you crown yourself #1 Lamar stans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 12 hours ago, Hex said: Steelers beat the Ravens 17-10 back in October with Lamar as well. Who invited you!?!?!?!?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 20 minutes ago, Morrissey said: 1. Lamar was never actually available. 2. Main issue people have had with Lamar is he's a different guy in the playoffs. I would pump the breaks before you crown yourself #1 Lamar stans. The interesting part of this thread isn't so much that other organizations knew he wasn't available and didnt make offers because of it. The best part of this thread is that some Jets fans didn't want him and continue to act like he’s not a beast. The goal post moving is comical. Im just sitting back and lmao. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 53 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Was that the game Lamar ended with the pick in the end zone followed by a strip sack ? Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk It's funny because that was a controversial game because the Ravens were dropping passes lesft and right and that was game where he was getting upset w/ his receivers on the sideline because they had 7 drops on the day. 4 were for easy TD's and 1 was a walk off game winner....selective memory though...make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Should and will be MVP. I was pro trading for him. Just my thoughts with him were that you’re not getting a guy for another decade like you do non running QBs. You’re getting a guy at this level for a few more years. This was also the 1st season in awhile he stayed healthy. Mainly bc he’s smaller and takes hits. I still stand by that he never wanted to leave BAL. Was just staying firm on his price. Which he did in fact show he’s worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 9 hours ago, Integrity28 said: Careful, he might stunt on you!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/5/2024 at 10:13 AM, slimjasi said: Peyton Manning started his playoff career 0-3, and the 3rd loss was the 41-0 disaster to our Jets. Also, the "running quarterback" you speak of has a 102.7 passer rating this season and a 98.0 passer rating for his career. As some of us tried to tell you LAST offseason, Lamar is a very good passer. To date, he has completed 64.5% of his passes, with 7.5 yards/attempt, 125 TDs, and 45 INTs (TD/INT ratio = 2.8) This tired notion of Lamar being a "running QB" is soooo lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I don’t know if this is the thread I said get him at all cost and F every other QB option…but this franchise will be sh*t until I take over the reins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I don’t know if this is the thread I said get him at all cost and F every other QB option…but this franchise will be sh*t until I take over the reins. I like the emphatic certitude by which this is delivered.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HighPitch Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Hey everyone welcome to the hindsight brag thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/6/2024 at 9:59 PM, Integrity28 said: Thank you for elaborating. I was afraid your initial point was painfully stupid. I was wrong. It’s worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 PLAYOFFS You Kiddin me ? PLAYOFFS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 40 year old AR8 off an Achilles + Will McDonald + 2024 first vs Lamar off an AFC Championship run Call me crazy, I'd gladly take Lamar. He just was never actually an option for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 9 hours ago, playtowinthegame said: wait, you think you won this debate? lmfao Lamar went 1-1 in the playoffs and yesterday wasnt on him, it was on Harbaugh/Monken/Flowers. In the playoffs, he threw for 425 yards, completed 63% and threw 3 TD's. He ran for 154 yards and 2 TD's. When he beat Houston last week, when you noticeably avoided the board like the plague, he became the 3rd player in playoff history to throw for 2 TD's and run for 2 TD's in a playoff game. Lamar balled out in the playoffs. You lost, sir. Take your L. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 wait, you think you won this debate? lmfao Lamar went 1-1 in the playoffs and yesterday wasnt on him, it was on Harbaugh/Monken/Flowers. In the playoffs, he threw for 425 yards, completed 63% and threw 3 TD's. He ran for 154 yards and 2 TD's. When he beat Houston last week, when you noticeably avoided the board like the plague, he became the 3rd player in playoff history to throw for 2 TD's and run for 2 TD's in a playoff game. Lamar balled out in the playoffs. You lost, sir. Take your L. He was great the week before but he was not good in the championship game. The only reason you combine the two games is because his numbers in the big game are pretty bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 16 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: wait, you think you won this debate? lmfao Lamar went 1-1 in the playoffs and yesterday wasnt on him, it was on Harbaugh/Monken/Flowers. In the playoffs, he threw for 425 yards, completed 63% and threw 3 TD's. He ran for 154 yards and 2 TD's. When he beat Houston last week, when you noticeably avoided the board like the plague, he became the 3rd player in playoff history to throw for 2 TD's and run for 2 TD's in a playoff game. Lamar balled out in the playoffs. You lost, sir. Take your L. He was great the week before but he was not good in the championship game. The only reason you combine the two games is because his numbers in the big game are pretty bad. No. I'm looking at his entire performance. You're right, he wasnt great yesterday but he wasnt nearly as bad as this board is making it out to be. He made a couple of terrible decisions and missed a few throws but that doesnt negate he was brilliant the week before so ofcourse I'm going to include his entire playoff performance since one of the million false narratives in this thread and specifically from the poster I responded to is that Lamar cant perform in the playoffs. He had more yards then Mahomes yesterday in the air on 10 less completions and he was the Ravens leading rusher. He would have had more TD's too but Zay Flowers is an idiot. His coaches and team failed him in so many ways yesterday it was ridiculous. Yes, Lamar could have played better but this victory lap is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 No. I'm looking at his entire performance. You're right, he wasnt great yesterday but he wasnt nearly as bad as this board is making it out to be. He made a couple of terrible decisions and missed a few throws but that doesnt negate he was brilliant the week before so ofcourse I'm going to include his entire playoff performance since one of the million false narratives in this thread and specifically from the poster I responded to is that Lamar cant perform in the playoffs. He had more yards then Mahomes yesterday in the air on 10 less completions and he was the Ravens leading rusher. He would have had more TD's too but Zay Flowers is an idiot. His coaches and team failed him in so many ways yesterday it was ridiculous. Yes, Lamar could have played better but this victory lap is stupid. Ok but if you want to combine the two games to make a point then you also have to look at his complete playoff passing stats as well. As a passer, those are 112/195, 57.4%, 1324 yards, 6 TD's, 6 INT's 75.7 passer rating over the course of 6 games. No one is going to call that good. I'd probably call it poor. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 27 minutes ago, JustInFudge said: No. I'm looking at his entire performance. You're right, he wasnt great yesterday but he wasnt nearly as bad as this board is making it out to be. He made a couple of terrible decisions and missed a few throws but that doesnt negate he was brilliant the week before so ofcourse I'm going to include his entire playoff performance since one of the million false narratives in this thread and specifically from the poster I responded to is that Lamar cant perform in the playoffs. He had more yards then Mahomes yesterday in the air on 10 less completions and he was the Ravens leading rusher. He would have had more TD's too but Zay Flowers is an idiot. His coaches and team failed him in so many ways yesterday it was ridiculous. Yes, Lamar could have played better but this victory lap is stupid. Ok but if you want to combine the two games to make a point then you also have to look at his complete playoff passing stats as well. As a passer, those are 112/195, 57.4%, 1324 yards, 6 TD's, 6 INT's 75.7 passer rating over the course of 6 games. No one is going to call that good. I'd probably call it poor. I think you need to read the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 The real shame of things is that the powers that be decided as a coalition not to even kick the tires on a star player in this league, because, well, they as a group did not like the way that star player approached a contract and decided to punish that action. Because, NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, bla bla bla said: 40 year old AR8 off an Achilles + Will McDonald + 2024 first vs Lamar off an AFC Championship run Call me crazy, I'd gladly take Lamar. He just was never actually an option for us. How about a video of every pass by Lamar Jackson vs the Chiefs. I believe there was a pass by Lamar where he threw it right to the Chiefs defender who dropped it. Lamar should have 2 INT's and he fumbled in the Conference Championship game. Bottom line Lamar sucked when it mattered most. He played 2 good quarters of 8 quarters in the 2023 playoffs as the #1 seed, and it was vs an overachieving Texans team - No disrespect to the Texans either, they had a very good first season with first year head coach DeMeco Ryans and rookie quarterback C.J. Stroud, but they were about the easiest draw the Ravens could have gotten in the divisional round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, JustInFudge said: wait, you think you won this debate? lmfao Lamar went 1-1 in the playoffs and yesterday wasnt on him, it was on Harbaugh/Monken/Flowers. In the playoffs, he threw for 425 yards, completed 63% and threw 3 TD's. He ran for 154 yards and 2 TD's. When he beat Houston last week, when you noticeably avoided the board like the plague, he became the 3rd player in playoff history to throw for 2 TD's and run for 2 TD's in a playoff game. Lamar balled out in the playoffs. You lost, sir. Take your L. You're hilarious. Keep digging a hole JiF... Your boy played like sh*t yesterday. You are telling me to take an L because Lamar played 2 great quarters of football vs the overachieving Texans. That's pretty rich. Enjoy your "victory." lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 10 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: You're hilarious. Keep digging a hole JiF... Your boy played like sh*t yesterday. You are telling me to take an L because Lamar played 2 great quarters of football vs the overachieving Texans. That's pretty rich. Enjoy your "victory." lmao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I think you need to read the thread. I don't need to read the entire thread to know that Lamar Jackson has historically been subpar in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 With Andrews hobbled they had 1 viable option in the passing game down the stretch, rookie Zay Flowers, who when he wasn’t taunting down 17-7 late in the 3rd, was fumbling at the 1-yard line to give KC the ball at their 20. It wasn’t Lamar’s best game obviously, but you have to give Spagnuolo credit (he shut down Josh Allen enough too) and put things in context. If Flowers doesn’t foolishly start stretching the ball out from the 5 yard line amidst 2 or 3 defenders there, it’s anybody’s game at 17-14 with plenty of time left. The Ravens were so desperate for “weapons” they added Dalvin Cook and even let him touch the ball in the divisional round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 20 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 1 hour ago, JustInFudge said: I think you need to read the thread. I don't need to read the entire thread to know that Lamar Jackson has historically been subpar in the playoffs. I just need to watch the Jets, season after season to tell you I would give first 2 round picks, and a top 10 salary to have that talent and caliber player on my team for 7-10 years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, playtowinthegame said: How about a video of every pass by Lamar Jackson vs the Chiefs. I believe there was a pass by Lamar where he threw it right to the Chiefs defender who dropped it. Lamar should have 2 INT's and he fumbled in the Conference Championship game. Bottom line Lamar sucked when it mattered most. He played 2 good quarters of 8 quarters in the 2023 playoffs as the #1 seed, and it was vs an overachieving Texans team - No disrespect to the Texans either, they had a very good first season with first year head coach DeMeco Ryans and rookie quarterback C.J. Stroud, but they were about the easiest draw the Ravens could have gotten in the divisional round. With this logic, you seem to be making a case for Zach Wilson. If Rodgers plays like old Rodgers then great, idk how you can sit there and say you wouldn't want Lamar at the cost of Will McDonald + 30th pick in 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: With this logic, you seem to be making a case for Zach Wilson. If Rodgers plays like old Rodgers then great, idk how you can sit there and say you wouldn't want Lamar at the cost of Will McDonald + 30th pick in 2024 Lamar was never an option, and I'm glad he wasn't. Never wanted to give up draft picks for Rodgers or Lamar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 22 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: Lamar was never an option, and I'm glad he wasn't. Never wanted to give up draft picks for Rodgers or Lamar. Because drafting and developing is working out so well for the Jets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 30 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: With this logic, you seem to be making a case for Zach Wilson. If Rodgers plays like old Rodgers then great, idk how you can sit there and say you wouldn't want Lamar at the cost of Will McDonald + 30th pick in 2024 Aren’t you forgetting to add in the astronomical number assets you’d have to trade to get LJ? You’re making it sound like he was a FA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Aren’t you forgetting to add in the astronomical number assets you’d have to trade to get LJ? You’re making it sound like he was a FA That price was (2) first round picks. He had the non exclusive tag. If a team extended him a contract, they would have had 5 days to match or move him for the picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 15 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: That price was (2) first round picks. He had the non exclusive tag. If a team extended him a contract, they would have had 5 days to match or move him for the picks. So we’d be out 2 draft picks. But there wasn’t a chance in hell that would have been the cost. Ravens would have matched immediately and started real trade talks and they weren’t taking 2 1sts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, JustInFudge said: I'm going to include his entire playoff performance since one of the million false narratives in this thread and specifically from the poster I responded to is that Lamar cant perform in the playoffs. 9 TDs 9 turnovers 26 sacks QBR in the 70’s 2-4 playoff record. No matter how you make excuses for LJ, his playoff numbers are not anywhere near his regular season numbers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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