Claymation Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 49 minutes ago, jgb said: Teh salary cap, tho @Barry McCockinner Just got better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, choon328 said: You don't know what the cap hit will be for any of them. Their cap space is $51 million WITH Rodgers current contract included. That's from Over The Cap. I don’t and neither do yours but I’d imagine we’d rather pay a guy like Q more now than later bc we have several 1st rousers we need to pay in a few years. And he very well could eat a huge chunk of that cap. As well as if we picked up Bectons option. That could be 35-40mill in just 2 players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, Claymation said: Just got better. Won't stop the handwringing, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Bobby816 said: I don’t and neither do yours but I’d imagine we’d rather pay a guy like Q more now than later bc we have several 1st rousers we need to pay in a few years. And he very well could eat a huge chunk of that cap. As well as if we picked up Bectons option. That could be 35-40mill in just 2 players. So sad that the Jets finally hit on a draft pick that is worthy of a monster extension. Boy that's much worse than just drafting an endless string of busts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: So you have no clue what Qs contract or Rodgers will look like as well if we have to pay Becton too (whether it be 5th year option or as a FA)? Got it. You're just throwing out stuff to fit your narrative. Obviously money can be moved around. But we will no question be money tied next off season. The Jets are going to be tight under the cap straight through 2025. It's the price you pay to be good when you have failed multiple times at the most important position in the game. If only Zach Wilson were an NFL caliber QB. Unfortunately, his future lies in the XFL or in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 dupe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetblue95 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: So Q won’t get paid next year? Rodgers won’t get paid? And a Becton might not get paid? Those are all real things. well it remains to be seen on becton, but yes, those are real things. as are contract restructurings that happen all the time. JD has shown he knows how to manage the cap and has created a lot of flexibility in the next 2 years as it stands now, the jets are projected to haver $16MM in cap space next year and $122MM in space for 2025 (granted no one knows how rodgers contract will shake out, but these numbers account for his current contract). somehow i'm think cj mosely isn't seeing a $17MM base salary and tomlinson isn't seeing a $12.6MM base salary unless his play seriously improves over last year. uzomah at $8MM? conklin at $6MM? JMF can be restructured. reed can be re-worked. and so on so yeah, there is plenty of flexibility in the 2024 and 2025 cap, considering it is over a year away https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/cap/2024/ https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/cap/2025/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tranquilo said: Nah, right now the Jets are over 6 mill He's referring to '24 cap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: I think we gave them roughly what they wanted bc we wanted this done and over pre draft. Oh brother. You think the Packers didn't reduce their demands to make yesterday's trade? News for ya: Both teams conceded things that they didn't want to in order to consumate the trade yesterday. It's not sensible to believe that it was JD alone who conceded and not the Packers as well, And, IMO (no facts for proof, just logic), the Packer demands were higher 4-8 weeks ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Like him or not, Florio is 100% correct. How do you have all the leverage and still give up the equivalent of a 2nd rounder this year and a 1st rounder next year? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/25/in-the-end-the-packers-fleeced-the-jets-for-aaron-rodgers/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Gonna love this bit all off-season 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 STFU and go to the Giants. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, JETS SB said: STFU and go to the Giants. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 hours ago, redlichtie said: It’s still a first round pick, probably our only first round pick….and it means our first draft pick, probably in round 2, is also likely to be at the back of the 2nd round, somewhere around pick 60…..I’m not commenting on the trade, just pointing out how much it will suck to sit on our hands and watch all the quality talent, in what might be a loaded draft, pass us by….I hate not playing on day 1 of the draft especially as historically draft day is the highlight of our season. Well that is the punishment we Jets fans will have to endure because JD has been abysmally bad with the QB position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 wow, what a unique perspective. thank you for starting this thread. it's amazing that no one else here thought to share their opinion on how the jets did in the trade. not sure how this board could have missed such a big trade and no one has opined on how the jets did in the trade. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 FACTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 We overpaid - we are doomed! No sense watching the Jets win games because we overpaid. We could of had him for next to nothing - starting in September - maybe. Doomed I say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Yeah, but the Jets are a "contenders" now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 These "overpaid" takes utterly ignore and/or fail to internalize the opportunity cost. Doing nothing meant very probable continued sucking leading to the drafting and developing (ha!) of a new QB in 1-2 years. At which time guess what? Sauce/G. Wilson/Breece are up for new deals. Then you've got even less cap to play with to plug in a QB (if one is even available to begin with). This was the time, the only time, to make this move. It had to be done. GB knew this and yes they negotiated hard. They are a well-run organization and knew they had what the Jets needed. But the cost of doing nothing for the Jets? Catastrophe. Not to mention, JD wouldn't have survived this upcoming season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, bicketybam said: 3 hours ago, Bobby816 said: I'm very happy we have Rodgers. Not doubt. But I have to see who we draft at 15 and 43 and who goes 13,14 and 42 to really rate this. How about you shut up until then? um... isn't this forum the place to express our opinions, views, criticisms, thoughts, hopes and dreams? Who made you the hall monitor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dcat said: Well that is the punishment we Jets fans will have to endure because JD has been abysmally bad with the QB position. Yeah because finding good QBs is so easy. Of the 4 that will be drafted Thursday - 1, 2 tops will work out for the team that drafts them. Just look over the past 10 yrs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Jets4Life1979 said: we knew all this already. What I want to see is how the money that was moveable from one team to the other was handled. This ain't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, jgb said: These "overpaid" takes utterly ignore and/or fail to internalize the opportunity cost. Doing nothing meant very probable continued sucking leading to the drafting and developing (ha!) of a new QB in 1-2 years. At which time guess what? Sauce/G. Wilson/Breece are up for new deals. Then you've got even less cap to play with to plug in a QB (if one is even available to begin with). This was the time, the only time, to make this move. It had to be done. GB knew this and yes they negotiated hard. They are a well-run organization and knew they had what the Jets needed. But the cost of doing nothing for the Jets? Catastrophe. Not to mention, JD wouldn't have survived this upcoming season. The "overpaid" crowd consists of the ones 6 months ago saying anyone but Zach Wilson and of course the bitch at everything crowd 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Unc and Skip saying the draft picks compensation the Jets gave the Packers in their trade for Aaron Rodgers makes this deal Super Bowl or Bust for the Jets. If we don't get to the Super Bowl in the next two seasons, it's a BUST of a trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, Facts said: Like him or not, Florio is 100% correct. How do you have all the leverage and still give up the equivalent of a 2nd rounder this year and a 1st rounder next year? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/25/in-the-end-the-packers-fleeced-the-jets-for-aaron-rodgers/ This is how 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, Pac said: This is how 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: This team is an injury away from having as worse WR core than Rodgers had last year (which I'm continually told is the reason he had his, by far, worse season as a pro) same is true for most teams. Yet another pfail-post from you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said: 50 is the new 35. Im cool with a 10 year contract. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, C Mart said: Yeah because finding good QBs is so easy. Of the 4 that will be drafted Thursday - 1, 2 tops will work out for the team that drafts them. Just look over the past 10 yrs Are you actually defending the last 25 years of QB choices by this team? Ha. And JD has been atrocious with the QB position probably moreso than all the other GMs in that time. That, good sir, is not an opinion. It's a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, jetblue95 said: wow, what a unique perspective. thank you for starting this thread. it's amazing that no one else here thought to share their opinion on how the jets did in the trade. not sure how this board could have missed such a big trade and no one has opined on how the jets did in the trade. Considering how the mods are merging every thought about the Rodgers trade into one gigantic thread that is hard to keep up with, it’s hard to know what has been brought up or said and what hasn’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facts Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pac said: This is how Still makes no sense. Even if he played 3 more years it makes no sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Facts said: Considering how the mods are merging every thought about the Rodgers trade into one gigantic thread that is hard to keep up with, it’s hard to know what has been brought up or said and what hasn’t. lol - did you think you were being unique in saying the jets got ripped off btw - welcome to the merge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: Are you actually defending the last 25 years of QB choices by this team? Ha. And JD has been atrocious with the QB position probably moreso than all the other GMs in that time. That, good sir, is not an opinion. It's a fact. Where did I say anything about the last 25 yrs..You said Douglas.... Whatever - just continue to bitch...This place is so tiring 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Facts said: Still makes no sense. Even if he played 3 more years it makes no sense. Yes. Trying to get two or three years of good QB play makes no sense. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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