Rich Thornburgh Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 16 hours ago, jgb said: But Wirfs is a big ol' p*ssy because he admitted struggling emotionally with the switch to LT. No he’ll be a big ol p ssy when he’s the next excuse for why Baker Mayfield sucks next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Rich Thornburgh said: No he’ll be a big ol p ssy when he’s the next excuse for why Baker Mayfield sucks next season Unlikely you’ll see such excuse-making here. When other teams’ QBs don’t play well, they just suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Must have paid crockett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Larz said: Must have paid crockett Sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: They did it because they have other more important players to pay and Alexander Mattison is a more than capable replacement If Dalvin was still a top 10 or 8 RB, he'd be one of those "important players". And Mattison is barely above JAG level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If Dalvin was still a top 10 or 8 RB, he'd be one of those "important players". And Mattison is barely above JAG level. not sure if we can truly judge mattison yet. he's definitely shown potential in some spot starts over the year. and clearly the vikings think a lot of him, given they haven't really brought in much competition. they are a playoff caliber team and seem to be entrusting him to be their lead back. then again, if mattison is barely abover JAG level, i can only imagine what sub-JAG level a scrub like eno benjamin is... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, jetblue95 said: not sure if we can truly judge mattison yet. he's definitely shown potential in some spot starts over the year. and clearly the vikings think a lot of him, given they haven't really brought in much competition. they are a playoff caliber team and seem to be entrusting him to be their lead back. then again, if mattison is barely abover JAG level, i can only imagine what sub-JAG level a scrub like eno benjamin is... Healthy Eno at veteran minimum >>> Dalvin Cook for $9M and I'll go to my grave on that sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Healthy Eno at veteran minimum >>> Dalvin Cook for $9M and I'll go to my grave on that sir the guy has 1 game in his career where he rushed over 40 yards. arizona and houston, not exactly teams loaded with RB depth, have already tossed him aside, and pre-injury, he was probably a long-shot to make the saints. not even sure how he improves the RB room over izzy, bam and carter (the latter two of which would be viewed as JAG players by any non-green shades wearing observer). while i think cook got more than what "I" thought he should, it's a 1-year deal with no long-term cap implications. and he only gets the full $9MM amount if he's on the roster every week, rushes for 1,200 yards, gets 1,500 total yards from scrimmage AND the jets win the super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 apologies for the source (florio), but it's the only one i can find at this time: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dalvin-cook-deal-protects-jets-against-suspension The Jets did not hesitate to sign running back Dalvin Cook despite a pending domestic violence lawsuit that could, in theory, trigger a suspension during the 2023 season. But the Jets did structure the one-year deal in a way that gives them multiple significant forms of protection against a potential suspension. Per a source with knowledge of the contract, the deal ties a total of $5.92 million to Cook not being on the reserve/suspended list. The contract has no signing bonus. Cook gets a guaranteed base salary of $1.08 million. The contract also includes $1.2 million in per-game active roster bonuses. Cook gets $70,588.24 for each game during which he is on the game-day, 46-man roster. Then, the deal ties $4.72 million to Cook being on the 53-man roster, active or inactive, or the injured reserve list or the reserve/physically unable to perform list. It’s paid out in 18 installments, at $277,647.06 per week. (The reference to Cook being on the PUP list apparently accounts for the possibility that he won’t pass a physical before the roster is reduced to 53 players on August 29.) The $4.72 million is guaranteed in the event Cook’s contract is terminated, simulating the termination pay protection Cook (as a vested veteran) would have for base salary, if terminated after Week 1. (That would void if he’s suspended.) This means that, if Cook should be suspended during the season, the Jets will avoid not only his weekly base salary ($60,000) but another $348,235.30 per week. That’s a total of $408,235.30 that the Jets will save during each week of any potential suspension. It adds up to a base package of $7 million. The incentives consist of a $400,000 payment for 1,250 yards rushing and another $400,000 for 1,500 yards from scrimmage. Also, if Cook has 1,250 yards from scrimmage, Cook gets $205,000 for each postseason win, up to $820,000. So the maximum compensation to Cook can be $8.62 million. To get there, he needs to have 1,250 yards rushing, 1,500 total yards from scrimmage, and the Jets must win the Super Bowl. He also needs to be on the active roster every week of the regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Hey Crockett. Dalvin wants 33 Crockett: nah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 8:58 PM, JETS SB said: Hearing he will be #33 Agent confirmed this today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 5:15 PM, Bronx said: Stupid signing. Get some OL help Fathead! I told you so. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Bronx said: I told you so. 4 games is a big enough sample size. I will email the Jets and let them know you were right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said: 4 games is a big enough sample size. I will email the Jets and let them know you were right. CC me on that too plz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 8/17/2023 at 9:44 AM, Jetsfan80 said: Healthy Eno at veteran minimum >>> Dalvin Cook for $9M and I'll go to my grave on that sir TO MY GRAVE, SIR @jetblue95 @BornJetsFan1983 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 7:15 PM, Ghost420 said: Ppl really upset we have Dalvin Cook as our rb2? This fan base is insufferable. Yes. And so are you today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 7:31 PM, Pac said: Good God take the L and go take a nap before Hard Knocks. You've become Joe Willy Junior. YOU TAKE THE L 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 8/17/2023 at 1:54 AM, Rich Thornburgh said: No he’ll be a big ol p ssy when he’s the next excuse for why Baker Mayfield sucks next season Damn you're on a heater 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 8/17/2023 at 1:53 AM, Rich Thornburgh said: They did it because they have other more important players to pay and Alexander Mattison is a more than capable replacement Alexander Mattison: Currently rocking a super elite 4.5 yards per touch. Doing so well the Vikings traded for Cam Akers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblue95 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: TO MY GRAVE, SIR @jetblue95 @BornJetsFan1983 i thought we already did this, where i showed you too were fine signing cook to a 1-year, $5MM deal (same price i said i would give him). given he's not sniffing those incentives, so he's getting 1 year, $5.8MM that said, i was wrong. he sucks and is not a top 20 back btw - eno (even if healthy) sucks as much. saving woody money didn't move the needle for me. cap space not a limitation given they still have almost $9MM in cap space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 6:01 PM, Greenseed4 said: Do one for Expected rushing yards, Expected TDs, and Expected ball security. You'll see that when you use futuristic made-up stats he's actually not good at all. ^^^ Dave Gettleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 7:15 PM, Ghost420 said: Ppl really upset we have Dalvin Cook as our rb2? This fan base is insufferable. I think we'd be better off with Izzy Abanikanda as our RB2. Cook can be our RB3 (or RB4 since MC serves a certain purpose). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, jetblue95 said: that said, i was wrong. he sucks and is not a top 20 back I accept your surrender 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I think we'd be better off with Izzy Abanikanda as our RB2. Cook can be our RB3 (or RB4 since MC serves a certain purpose). Since Dalvin can't contribute on special teams, him being the RB3/RB4 serves no positive purpose. He has to be the RB2 or nothing. Cut him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: TO MY GRAVE, SIR @jetblue95 @BornJetsFan1983 cook is going to have some open holes now that zach doesnt suck hopefully. You will realize how wrong this is. Cook is not washed. He is a weapon the off will unlock in the coming games. Denver to be exact. He will have a big game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Alexander Mattison: Currently rocking a super elite 4.5 yards per touch. Doing so well the Vikings traded for Cam Akers. mattison sucks for sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost420 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I think we'd be better off with Izzy Abanikanda as our RB2. Cook can be our RB3 (or RB4 since MC serves a certain purpose). I agree now also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 54 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: cook is going to have some open holes now that zach doesnt suck hopefully. You will realize how wrong this is. Cook is not washed. He is a weapon the off will unlock in the coming games. Denver to be exact. He will have a big game. Dude. Same RBs, same OL, same scheme, and Cook is like our 5th best runner behind Breece, Carter, Zach and Ashtyn Davis. By the end of the season I’m sure 1-2 other guys will pass him, too. He’s slow as sh*t and can’t take advantage of the holes. He’s burnt toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Fast forward to the Broncos game. Breece will rip off runs of 39, 57 and 83 but not get in the endzone. Cook lunges in for a 2 yard TD and a 1 yard TD. @Bobby816 bumps this thread to dunk on @Jetsfan80 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: Fast forward to the Broncos game. Breece will rip off runs of 39, 57 and 83 but not get in the endzone. Cook lunges in for a 2 yard TD and a 1 yard TD. @Bobby816 bumps this thread to dunk on @Jetsfan80 Peak JN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Dude. Same RBs, same OL, same scheme, and Cook is like our 5th best runner behind Breece, Carter, Zach and Ashtyn Davis. By the end of the season I’m sure 1-2 other guys will pass him, too. He’s slow as sh*t and can’t take advantage of the holes. He’s burnt toast. first off carter is not better, neither are the others obviously. Hall is better no doubt, im not sure there is a better back in the league talent wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: first off carter is not better, neither are the others obviously. Hall is better no doubt, im not sure there is a better back in the league talent wise. Carter is not better. He just plays better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: first off carter is not better, neither are the others obviously. Hall is better no doubt, im not sure there is a better back in the league talent wise. Funny because the numbers this season say otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 20 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Funny because the numbers this season say otherwise which numbers? what are you talking about? Hall is off the charts on talent. But lets meet back up after denver. Cook is going to go off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 At this point, I think Quincy Williams would be a better option at RB than Dalvin Cook. Looks much more explosive. Nick Bawden might even have more burst, speaking of which did you guys see this incredible play where the Texans Fullback ran back a KO for a TD? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjddXjcIR24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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