Joe Burrow Paid

[jgb]

2 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

You never fail to astonish. You have a gift.

Fleas on the backs of rats also brought a “gift” to medieval Europe — the bubonic plague.

[BurnleyJet]

We have a Joe Burrow, just 20 year older. Jets aren’t allowed to draft young QB’s that are good, the NFL will fall and seas will boil if we do.

[Dunnie]

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[LIJetsFan]

Because the NFL is insanely popular the cycle is increase revenues = pay QBs = increase cap space = rinse and repeat.  You gotta love capitalism!  USA USA USA.  Got Jets.  I'm not going to stop watching, are you?  Hell no, no you are not.        

[JetPotato]

11 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Deserves it.  And in a year or two this contract will look like a bargain.

Which QB is going to get paid more than Burrow in the next 2 years? Mahomes already has a contract.

[jgb]

Just now, JetPotato said:

Which QB is going to get paid more than Burrow in the next 2 years? Mahomes already has a contract.

Mahomes' contract is designed to be re-structured.

[Jet Nut]

9 hours ago, Maxman said:

Jets aren't going to be able to afford Rodgers after winning the next two Super Bowls.

Nice problem to have

[bonkertons]

9 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

Which QB is going to get paid more than Burrow in the next 2 years? Mahomes already has a contract.

Potentially Lawrence if he continues his trajectory.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him enter that Burrow territory this season.  Doubt he'll ever be Mahomes level, but Burrow isn't on that level either IMO.

[Larz]

He deserves it. Great for the NFL. 

[Bobby816]

10 hours ago, Facts said:

I think he’s good. I don’t think he is top 3 though. 

That’s debatable. But are just the top 3 guys at each position elite? Wouldn’t that make Q not elite, AVT, GW, Rodgers, etc.

[Facts]

7 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

That’s debatable. But are just the top 3 guys at each position elite? Wouldn’t that make Q not elite, AVT, GW, Rodgers, etc.

Elite is top 3 at your position, in my opinion.

[slats]

3 minutes ago, Facts said:

Elite is top 3 at your position, in my opinion.

So what percentage of the cap should they’ve given him? 

[The Crusher]

12 hours ago, freestater said:

Three fitty. Per sumthin'

Somewhere in Utah…

 

 

 

[The Crusher]

10 hours ago, Maxman said:

Jets aren't going to be able to afford Rodgers after winning the next two Super Bowls.

Its cool, Ill need a break from winning by then. 

[jgb]

8 minutes ago, slats said:

So what percentage of the cap should they’ve given him? 

Somewhere between π and G, obviously.

[Claymation]

12 hours ago, jetsons said:

The Original…

The Original?

[Facts]

50 minutes ago, slats said:

So what percentage of the cap should they’ve given him? 

Funny!

They had to pay him. They had no choice. But I don’t think he is elite. Very good? Sure.

[slats]

12 hours ago, Facts said:

I don’t think it’s all that deserved.

Burrow is Kirk Cousins with amazing pass catchers.

I don’t see why people are enamored with him.

This is a remarkably poor analogy. Forget that Cousins is throwing to Jefferson, Thielen, and Hockenson for a moment, but just judging a QB solely on his stats doesn’t tell the story. Burrow has the championship level qualities that guys like Cousins, Carr, or Garoppolo don’t have. He’s a winner while Cousins craps the bed after 7pm or in the playoffs. Joe Burrow, otoh, takes out Patrick Mahomes in the AFCCG. He’s got that ice water in his veins thing. He doesn’t deserve more money than Mahomes, but it would be hard to list another QB who deserves more than him right now. 

[TuscanyTile2]

13 hours ago, jetsons said:

The Original…

Back in those days, football players used to wear bike helmets.

[The Crusher]

2 hours ago, slats said:

This is a remarkably poor analogy. Forget that Cousins is throwing to Jefferson, Thielen, and Hockenson for a moment, but just judging a QB solely on his stats doesn’t tell the story. Burrow has the championship level qualities that guys like Cousins, Carr, or Garoppolo don’t have. He’s a winner while Cousins craps the bed after 7pm or in the playoffs. Joe Burrow, otoh, takes out Patrick Mahomes in the AFCCG. He’s got that ice water in his veins thing. He doesn’t deserve more money than Mahomes, but it would be hard to list another QB who deserves more than him right now. 

After last nights game I feel like Travis Kelse deserves more money than Mahomes. 

[slats]

8 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

After last nights fame I feel like Travis Kelse deserves more money than Mahomes. 

A good argument was made to give Chris Jones more than 10% of the cap, too. 

[Barry McCockinner]

I'm just here for the gasping about how this is somehow going to ruin the Jets cap situation in the future. Did we get there yet?

[The Crusher]

5 minutes ago, slats said:

A good argument was made to give Chris Jones more than 10% of the cap, too. 

#altFacts

[Bobby816]

1 hour ago, Facts said:

Elite is top 3 at your position, in my opinion.

I don’t agree. I think top 10 at your position is elite. Especially positions where there’s several of that position on the field at once. I know that’s not QB. But there’s a good 10 QBs that are elite and 100% are a deciding factor if there team being good or bad.

[Facts]

46 minutes ago, slats said:

Forget that Cousins is throwing to Jefferson, Thielen, and Hockenson for a moment

Well it would be smart to throw that out, considering he has only had that group for about 10 total games in his entire CAREER.

Cousins had 34 TD's while only having Pierre Garcon and the corpse of Desean Jackson at WR (who only played half the year).

So yeah, let's not pretend like he has had studs his entire career. Not that Thielen or Hockenson are even studs at this point. Thielen is toast and Hockenson was traded for underperforming.

46 minutes ago, slats said:

Burrow has the championship level qualities

Such as?

Moxy?

Poise? 

Lol. All those intangibles people like to throw out but they know it's impossible to quantify their argument.

46 minutes ago, slats said:

He’s a winner while Cousins craps the bed after 7pm or in the playoffs.

Burrow has a 58.5% winning percentage.

Cousins winning percentage in Minnesota? 58.2%

46 minutes ago, slats said:

Joe Burrow, otoh, takes out Patrick Mahomes in the AFCCG.

I will never understand why people like to attribute wins to 1 player, even if the player played poorly.

Burrow's DEFENSE took Mahomes out in the AFCCG. They forced 2 INT's, 5 QB hits, 1 Forced Fumble, and 4 sacks.

Meanwhile, Burrow's playoff stats against KC are 61.5% passing, 3 TD's, 3 INT's. 

That's taking Patrick Mahomes out!? lol. Burrow just played a Ryan Fitzpatrick type game and let his defense win it.

46 minutes ago, slats said:

He’s got that ice water in his veins thing. 

Based on WHAT?

This is just a cliche people say but have no backing for it.

46 minutes ago, slats said:

but it would be hard to list another QB who deserves more than him right now. 

I could list several QB's who are better than Burrow.

Josh Allen - Allen has 6 TD's and 1 INT against KC in the playoffs. He just keeps losing to KC because his defense craps the bed.

Jalen Hurts - Super Bowl last season, played out of his mind.

Justin Herbert - Has a terrible team around him. Reminds me of Dan Marino. A great QB stuck on a bad team.

Trevor Lawrence - Will likely be on this list after this upcoming season. Jury is still out though, so this is a tentative naming.

Burrow is a good QB who everyone overrates because his defense propelled him to the SB one year (and he played terrible and lost).

[jgb]

10 minutes ago, slats said:

A good argument was made to give Chris Jones more than 10% of the cap, too. 

I draw a hard line at 10.56323%, though.

 

[Facts]

22 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

I don’t agree. I think top 10 at your position is elite. Especially positions where there’s several of that position on the field at once. I know that’s not QB. But there’s a good 10 QBs that are elite and 100% are a deciding factor if there team being good or bad.

Top 10!?

That's 1/3rd of the league. 

 

[slats]

22 minutes ago, Facts said:

Well it would be smart to throw that out, considering he has only had that group for about 10 total games in his entire CAREER.

Cousins had 34 TD's while only having Pierre Garcon and the corpse of Desean Jackson at WR (who only played half the year).

So yeah, let's not pretend like he has had studs his entire career. Not that Thielen or Hockenson are even studs at this point. Thielen is toast and Hockenson was traded for underperforming.

Such as?

Moxy?

Poise? 

Lol. All those intangibles people like to throw out but they know it's impossible to quantify their argument.

Burrow has a 58.5% winning percentage.

Cousins winning percentage in Minnesota? 58.2%

I will never understand why people like to attribute wins to 1 player, even if the player played poorly.

Burrow's DEFENSE took Mahomes out in the AFCCG. They forced 2 INT's, 5 QB hits, 1 Forced Fumble, and 4 sacks.

Meanwhile, Burrow's playoff stats against KC are 61.5% passing, 3 TD's, 3 INT's. 

That's taking Patrick Mahomes out!? lol. Burrow just played a Ryan Fitzpatrick type game and let his defense win it.

Based on WHAT?

This is just a cliche people say but have no backing for it.

I could list several QB's who are better than Burrow.

Josh Allen - Allen has 6 TD's and 1 INT against KC in the playoffs. He just keeps losing to KC because his defense craps the bed.

Jalen Hurts - Super Bowl last season, played out of his mind.

Justin Herbert - Has a terrible team around him. Reminds me of Dan Marino. A great QB stuck on a bad team.

Trevor Lawrence - Will likely be on this list after this upcoming season. Jury is still out though, so this is a tentative naming.

Burrow is a good QB who everyone overrates because his defense propelled him to the SB one year (and he played terrible and lost).

[The Crusher]

14 minutes ago, Facts said:

Top 10!?

That's 1/3rd of the league. 

 

Top 3- elite (MVP level) 

Top 7 very good 

Top 3rd - good

Top half - serviceable

Botton half - Jags

Bottom 10 - us until the darkness blessed  us with its A-Rod. 

[jgb]

37 minutes ago, Facts said:

Burrow has a 58.5% winning percentage.

Cousins winning percentage in Minnesota? 58.2%

37 minutes ago, Facts said:

I will never understand why people like to attribute wins to 1 player, even if the player played poorly.

[Bobby816]

20 minutes ago, Facts said:

Top 10!?

That's 1/3rd of the league. 

 

For QB yes.

But are you telling me all these guys aren’t HUGE factors for there team?

Mahomes, Allen, Hurts, Burrow, Herbert, Rodgers, Jackson, Lawerence, etc. That’s 8 guys at a position you only play 1 guy at.

 

Every other position has several guys out there. I’ll use WR as an example…

So only Jefferson, Adams and Hill are elite? Chase, Lamb, Kupp, Brown, etc aren’t?

 

If you’re a BIG difference maker. For me that makes you elite.

[65 Toss Power Trap]

14 hours ago, RoadFan said:

Not fair.  Burrow is not made of glass.  He allows himself to be tackled awkwardly too often.  

Ha ha ha ha ha. Semantics. Either way, he’s going to get injured. 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

3 hours ago, jgb said:

Mahomes' contract is designed to be re-structured.

If Mahomes was from the Mevi$ school, he'd be holding out next season......

 

1 hour ago, slats said:

A good argument was made to give Chris Jones more than 10% of the cap, too. 

Actually, the Chiefs defense played well. They only gave up 14 points.  

[FootballLove]

I heard somewhere that owners must put the entire 'guaranteed' part of the contract in escrow, so even if the team folds/goes bankrupt/whatever, Burrows still gets his coin!

That's a lot of money that has to sit in a bank account somewhere!

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

This contract (and other second contracts paid to QBs) illustrate why nothing is being "handed" to rookie QBs who start right away. It debunks the theory that rookie starting QBs have no motivation.  The difference between top QB draft choice QB pay and second contract starting QB pay is enormous.  Burrown, Mahomes, Watson, Allen  and even D Jones are getting 2-8 year contracts that pay $40-55 million per with guarantees over $200 million.  Rookie QB contracts over 4 years are worth between$5-8 million a year.  

Yes, It's big money to make $30 million, but the QBs make that whether they start or not as rookies. They are all playing for that second deal, which is incredibly motivating. They are also inherently internally competitive professional athletes. All rookie QBs are playing for that golden goose of a second contract and that is incredible motivation.