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I know we've been hit with Rodgers and AVT going down, but are we
seeing more Achilles injuries around the league?  If so what could
be causing them:

- Training techniques
- Have players worked on their knee ligaments (ACL) so much they've
  neglected their Achilles 
- Turf / grass

 

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Here’s a study that addresses a few questions.

Turf vs Grass is not the issue.


During this time, most injuries occurred in rookies. And a large part also occurred in preseason/offseason.

Not sure what to make of the second part, since the study doesn't try to explain why rookies get injured at a higher rate.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2473011419S00352#:~:text=Injuries are an ever-present,rankings by over fifty percent.

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Be nice to hear from a physical therapist or doctor. My hunch is that it is related to high levels of training intensity. And lack of proper rest. Guessing - they are probably doing tons of plyometric work which can put a lot of stress on the lower body. Also, if the calfs aren’t properly trained, it can lead to muscle imbalances which cause issues with leg injuries.

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I'm kind of surprised it's not more common.  These men are massive and trying to move other massive men, I'm not sure that tendon was really made to sustain that kind of impact but that's just me being a dumb dumb and not knowing anything about sports science and the impact on the body.

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2 hours ago, Adoni Beast said:

Our training staff has been poor for the Gase and Saleh regimes, and the latter part of the Rex Ryan one.

If memory serves me right I don’t recall the Bowels regime having this many injuries every year???

Once they had to can Sal Alosi things havent been the same

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2 hours ago, GreenFish said:

Not sure what to make of the second part, since the study doesn't try to explain why rookies get injured at a higher rate.

This is just me taking a stab at it as I'm not even close to being an expert on sport science but it could be because the physical demands of the pro game are a lot for 22-23 year olds who haven't been through an off-season strength and conditioning program yet......

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Eliminate preseason games, add one more game to the regular season for a total of 18 games instead of 21 games that are normally played. .

By the way, the NFL needs to get rid of kickoffs. They are a waste of time and it will also help decrease the chances of unnecessary injuries. 

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My theory is the league filters out the weak 

AVT is not built for right tackle 

Rodgers should be retired 

How does a guy like Jason Peters do it for 20 years? By being a rare world class athlete 

AVT and Rodgers are OK athletes by nfl standards they aren't world class 

That hit Rodgers took was a normal hit for a 25 year old or some Josh Allen type physical freak. 

 

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7 minutes ago, bitonti said:

My theory is the league filters out the weak 

AVT is not built for right tackle 

Rodgers should be retired 

How does a guy like Jason Peters do it for 20 years? By being a rare world class athlete 

AVT and Rodgers are OK athletes by nfl standards they aren't world class 

That hit Rodgers took was a normal hit for a 25 year old or some Josh Allen type physical freak. 

 

Rodgers won back-to-back MVPs in his age 37 & 38 seasons.

Can't do that without athleticism and toughness.

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I found this graphic while doing some research.

"Number of acute Achilles tendon ruptures occurring in the National Football League regular seasons from 1998 to 2022. Additional numbers of acute Achilles tendon ruptures for prior years are listed from prior studies as cited within the figure. *From Lawrence et al., OJSM 2015 [14]. From Myer et al., JOSPT 2011 [18]. ˚Averages from Parekh et al., Foot and Ankle Specialist 2009 [21]"
 
It does indeed seem as if Achilles injuries have increased over time. I don't know why a 6 year span is just not there, but I think the point of the graphic was to show how it increased after the pandemic.
 
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10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Of course not but again, you can't play at an elite level at age 38 without athleticism and toughness, which you implied Rodgers lacked.  Simply not true.

What I said was he was ok by nfl standards 

AVT too 

OK means yes some athletic talent but he's not elite with it. OK in the NFL means alot 

Becton and Quinnen for example are examples of physical outliers 

Zach is also only OK 

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24 minutes ago, Hex said:

167_2023_7309_Fig1_HTML.jpg

I found this graphic while doing some research.

"Number of acute Achilles tendon ruptures occurring in the National Football League regular seasons from 1998 to 2022. Additional numbers of acute Achilles tendon ruptures for prior years are listed from prior studies as cited within the figure. *From Lawrence et al., OJSM 2015 [14]. From Myer et al., JOSPT 2011 [18]. ˚Averages from Parekh et al., Foot and Ankle Specialist 2009 [21]"
 
It does indeed seem as if Achilles injuries have increased over time. I don't know why a 6 year span is just not there, but I think the point of the graphic was to show how it increased after the pandemic.
 

I wonder if it's because players spend more time in the weight room and less time with things like stretching.... I know some of the best WR and CB of the previous generation would do ballet and yoga to not have their muscles so tightly strung and never be injured 

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