Rodgers trying to sniff out the rat in the building

[Ron Rico]

What an absolute sh*tshow and DISGRACE this team is. 

This is what happens when you retain a HC you should have fired at least at the end of last season (if not sooner).

This is what happens when you retain a GM you should have fired at least at the end of last season (if not sooner).

This is what happens when your owner is Woody Johnson.

[Adoni Beast]

6 minutes ago, football guy said:

I tend to agree especially considering he’s one of the leakers himself. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

[mfmartin]

You never once thought that JD doesn’t want to?

Anyone with two eyes would have cut Mann at any point last year but there he was costing us two games last year because he was a Douglas pick. Now imagine the 2nd pick in the draft.


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[Matt39]

1 minute ago, football guy said:

You never once thought that JD doesn’t want to?

If he’s that blind then it’s still on Woody for keeping him here as the Gm.

[y2k8]

5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Zach will be a back up QB next year for another team.

He will get an opportunity to compete for a backup role.

As a young talent he will get a shot. But as a scrap heap guy (and NOT their #2 overall pick) no FO or coaching staff will be vested enough to be patient.

For the first time in his career, he will have to earn a roster spot.

[football guy]

13 minutes ago, Warfish said:

You do understand that he does not sit on their Board of Directors, does not work for them in any managerial or decision making role, does not grant him any day to day control of Jet Blue operations, and does not make him the manager of the marketing/advertising Dept.  It  also does not free him from answering to the other Shareholders (including the institutional shareholders) if it became known he was doing something nefarious/untowards with corporate assets, right?  You handwavium that with "yeah, but..." conspiracies doesn't make your silly theories fact.

You also know that Jet Blue would advertise with the local sports teams regardless, given their Hub is literally right there nearby.

You also know, I'm sure, that the Uncle now runs a whole different airline, and would presumably want any special deals to help THAT entity, one he directly would benefit from in theory, not his old employer/stock investment, right?

Lets be honest Matt, you're deeply invested in a conspiracy theory that has no real basis in demonstrable facts or evidence, but is based on just a few coincidences you (and a few others) have blown completely out of proportion, without any actual evidence supporting it outside of "well that's how the rich do things", to turn into this silly conspiracy theory where Woody is knowingly and consciously destroying his team every year forcing Zach on JD (while apparently alos forcing Rodgers on JD too), demanding Wilson play (even though he's been benched twice), letting Zach "do nothing", despite Zach starting most of the past three seasons, etc, etc, etc, to somehow help Jet Blue (an advertiser with the Jets) which somehow helps Zach's uncle (politically you once claimed) who does not run Jet Blue, by letting his born-after-he-left-Jet Blue nephew not work even though he started for us, and on and on and on.

It's laughable mate.  

Elite post

14 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Great. Let’s get Wilson off of the roster then. Until then, we can speculate he has friends in high places. 

Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh and Aaron Rodgers do not want him gone, hence why he is not gone. 

[mfmartin]

Too big? What do you mean? Who does that impact? Oh right, Woody.

Wrong his dead cap was 20 million. He was due 9 this year. That’s -11 million that comes off their cap. That means Joe Douglas has 11 million less to work with. That’s the reason he is still there. Zach gets that money regardless from Woody (his salary was fully guaranteed due to his draft position). It’s the way Douglas structured the contract.


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[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, football guy said:

Elite post

Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh and Aaron Rodgers do not want him gone, hence why he is not gone. 

So do you think he’s back again next season?

[slimjasi]

20 minutes ago, Warfish said:

You do understand that he does not sit on their Board of Directors, does not work for them in any managerial or decision making role, does not grant him any day to day control of Jet Blue operations, and does not make him the manager of the marketing/advertising Dept.  It  also does not free him from answering to the other Shareholders (including the institutional shareholders) if it became known he was doing something nefarious/untowards with corporate assets, right?  You handwavium that with "yeah, but..." conspiracies doesn't make your silly theories fact.

You also know that Jet Blue would advertise with the local sports teams regardless, given their Hub is literally right there nearby.

You also know, I'm sure, that the Uncle now runs a whole different airline, and would presumably want any special deals to help THAT entity, one he directly would benefit from in theory, not his old employer/stock investment, right?

Lets be honest Matt, you're deeply invested in a conspiracy theory that has no real basis in demonstrable facts or evidence, but is based on just a few coincidences you (and a few others) have blown completely out of proportion, without any actual evidence supporting it outside of "well that's how the rich do things", to turn into this silly conspiracy theory where Woody is knowingly and consciously destroying his team every year forcing Zach on JD (while apparently alos forcing Rodgers on JD too), demanding Wilson play (even though he's been benched twice), letting Zach "do nothing", despite Zach starting most of the past three seasons, etc, etc, etc, to somehow help Jet Blue (an advertiser with the Jets) which somehow helps Zach's uncle (politically you once claimed) who does not run Jet Blue, by letting his born-after-he-left-Jet Blue nephew not work even though he started for us, and on and on and on.

It's laughable mate.  

[Stanley Blinka]

(1) Reporter: "An anonymous source told me X."

(2) AR: "Whoever said X should put their name to it."

(3) X is confirmed!

How exactly do 1 & 2 get some folks to 3?

[football guy]

3 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

So do you think he’s back again next season?

Logically I say no but I will not put anything past Joe Douglas, Robert Saleh, or Aaron Rodgers. Those 3 plus Wilson’s play down the stretch will largely dictate where he is next year. 

[FidelioJet]

1 minute ago, y2k8 said:

He will get an opportunity to compete for a backup role.

As a young talent he will get a shot. But as a scrap heap guy (and NOT their #2 overall pick) no FO or coaching staff will be vested enough to be patient.

For the first time in his career, he will have to earn a roster spot.

He will be the #2 on a team - and it won't be because of his family.  It will be because he's capable of keeping his team in games and winning a few if a team loses their QB for a few weeks.

 

[Matt39]

Just now, FidelioJet said:

He will be the #2 on a team - and it won't be because of his family.  It will be because he's capable of keeping his team in games and winning a few if a team loses their QB for a few weeks.

 

There it is. 

[T0mShane]

They don’t have to cut Zach, but they can deactivate him and send him home. I can’t imagine he’s welcome in the locker room right now, and this story is going to linger as long as he’s around the team. The Jets are handling this about as poorly as they can.

[joewilly12]

3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

He will be the #2 on a team - and it won't be because of his family.  It will be because he's capable of keeping his team in games and winning a few if a team loses their QB for a few weeks.

 

ZW will never have any success in the NFL he was overhyped over drafted……

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

They don’t have to cut Zach, but they can deactivate him and send him home. I can’t imagine he’s welcome in the locker room right now, and this story is going to linger as long as he’s around the team. The Jets are handling this about as poorly as they can.

I agree been saying this for days enough already.  

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

He will be the #2 on a team - and it won't be because of his family.  It will be because he's capable of keeping his team in games and winning a few if a team loses their QB for a few weeks.

 

I’d be surprised if he’s still in the league in two years. He has his money, he knows he stinks, and he’s an off-putting, effete Utah rich kid. The backup QB is a popular rah-rah guy that players rally around. Zach is the opposite of that. Hackenbergian in that sense.

[Matt39]

7 minutes ago, football guy said:

Logically I say no but I will not put anything past Joe Douglas, Robert Saleh, or Aaron Rodgers. Those 3 plus Wilson’s play down the stretch will largely dictate where he is next year. 

I don’t believe Saleh does. Too much smoke.

[football guy]

8 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

I don’t believe Saleh does. Too much smoke.

Joe B — another radio conspiracy theorist — is the only source of smoke. 

Zach Wilson was drafted here mainly because of Saleh. They were unanimous in wanting him. 

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, football guy said:

Joe B — another radio conspiracy theorist — is the only source of smoke. 

Zach Wilson was drafted here mainly because of Saleh. They were unanimous in wanting him. 

Going to go out on a limb and say that the coach who’s benched Zach Wilson three times is not the guy who’s advocating to keep Zach Wilson around

[Beerfish]

13 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I’d be surprised if he’s still in the league in two years. He has his money, he knows he stinks, and he’s an off-putting, effete Utah rich kid. The backup QB is a popular rah-rah guy that players rally around. Zach is the opposite of that. Hackenbergian in that sense.

Zach will be a blake bortles type backup and will shift around from team to team as a backup as long as he wants to play.

The league is so bereft of even competent #2 and #3 guys there is a place for zach on some team.

[Augustiniak]

15 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I’d be surprised if he’s still in the league in two years. He has his money, he knows he stinks, and he’s an off-putting, effete Utah rich kid. The backup QB is a popular rah-rah guy that players rally around. Zach is the opposite of that. Hackenbergian in that sense.

People assume he’ll follow the same trajectory as sanchez, geno and darnold but he won’t.  Darnold and sanchez were generally liked by their teammates and extended careers partially b/c of it.  Geno became a functional starter after years of watching and rehabilitating his image.  All 3 had a passion for the game we never saw wiht wilson.  

[FidelioJet]

12 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I’d be surprised if he’s still in the league in two years. He has his money, he knows he stinks, and he’s an off-putting, effete Utah rich kid. The backup QB is a popular rah-rah guy that players rally around. Zach is the opposite of that. Hackenbergian in that sense.

Sure.  Zach may choose to not continue playing as a back up.  So you're probably correct. 

But that would be his choice.  If he wanted he could likely stick around the league quite a while as a #2.

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

Zach will be a blake bortles type backup and will shift around from team to team as a backup as long as he wants to play.

The league is so bereft of even competent #2 and #3 guys there is a place for zach on some team.

Bortles sucked, but he was an absolute dude. Real Florida bro. Zach is not at all a dude. 

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Bortles sucked, but he was an absolute dude. Real Florida bro. Zach is not at all a dude. 

Boat man was in fact a dude

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

Sure.  Zach may choose to not continue playing as a back up.  So you're probably correct. 

But that would be his choice.  If he wanted he could likely stick around the league quite a while as a #2.

Yeah, I don’t know about that. Backup QBs are usually not that talented. They’re grunts and football junkies. There are twenty QBs in every draft class who are more talented than, say, Minshew or Mike White, but they never sniff a roster. 

[Prodigal Syndicate]

26 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

They don’t have to cut Zach, but they can deactivate him and send him home. I can’t imagine he’s welcome in the locker room right now, and this story is going to linger as long as he’s around the team. The Jets are handling this about as poorly as they can.

This has been a theme of Joe Douglas entire tenure. Poor player management.

[MysticalJet2]

38 minutes ago, football guy said:

Elite post

Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh and Aaron Rodgers do not want him gone, hence why he is not gone. 

How sure are you about this one bolded?  

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said:

This has been a theme of Joe Douglas entire tenure. Poor player management.

Shouldn’t even really be a Joe Douglas call. On any really good team, the head coach would move so fast to banish a player who told him to go pound sand that it’d look like DJ Jazzy Jeff leaving Uncle Phil’s mansion. 

[T0mShane]

[doitny]

3 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

4) Next year Zach Wilson will be a #2 on another team.  So someone not named Woody Johnson will be taking a chance on him too.

no way is he a #2 next year. a #3 or even a PS QB.

after what he did for 3 years and with QBs dropping like flies its more important than ever to have a competent QB be the backup.

[Beerfish]

14 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Bortles sucked, but he was an absolute dude. Real Florida bro. Zach is not at all a dude. 

There have been plenty of bitches that after getting dumped a few times rehabilitate and mature.

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

There have been plenty of bitches that after getting dumped a few times rehabilitate and mature.

He’s not changing his personality/work ethic in a couple years dude.  By the time he makes any real changes the league will have moved on from him.  

[joewilly12]

22 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Bortles sucked, but he was an absolute dude. Real Florida bro. Zach is not at all a dude. 

Dudette

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

There have been plenty of bitches that after getting dumped a few times rehabilitate and mature.

Zach’s career path—

—Cut by Jets in March after being offered in trades for weeks with no bites. 
 

—Signs with Denver (Chargers? Dallas?) for the minimum. Spends the season bouncing back and forth between the practice squad and active roster. 
 

—Gets a spot start late in 2024, throws two picks, waived after season. 
 

—Signs with Niners in February 2025, gets cut at the end of training camp. Spends the season prepping for a career in broadcasting.

—Signs with Fox Sports as a game analyst for their MAAC coverage.