T0mShane Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: What we “now” know Douglas is a mouse Saleh is a phony Woody puts his thumb on everything This cannot be true! Look at the great success of the team through multiple administrations! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This cannot be true! Look at the great success of the team through multiple administrations! Douglas is Maccagnan with the help of a Jamal Adams trade. Same personality, stuck on some back office reading Walter football. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsFanatic Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 Amazing Leon Hess had his Steve Gutman and Woody Johnson has his Hymie Elhai. Both good businessmen but not capable of running a football franchise. Jets best owner was Sonny Werblin. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, JetsFanatic said: Amazing Leon Hess had his Steve Gutman and Woody Johnson has his Hymie Elhai. Both good businessmen but not capable of running a football franchise. Jets best owner was Sonny Werblin. Gutman asked Beningo once why he cared so much 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Amazing how, season after season, Jets fans will throw their bodies in front of any and all attacks toward Woody Johnson and the upper tiers of the Jets franchise despite all evidence pointing to rampant dysfunction in the operation and leadership of this franchiseThis is not about trying to defend him. It's about how people just live for articles like this. It's like they feed off it. News flash. Woody isn't selling the team. It was a phenomenal investment for him. It makes him a sh*tload of money. Doesn't matter how much whining the fans do. So many here are like battered women that cry to their sisters but never leave their wife beating husband. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: Amazing Leon Hess had his Steve Gutman and Woody Johnson has his Hymie Elhai. Both good businessmen but not capable of running a football franchise. Jets best owner was Sonny Werblin. Woody doesn’t want football advice. He wants somebody to tell him that all the PSLs are selling like hotcakes because of his adroit, stern leadership. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 21 minutes ago, bicketybam said: Amazing how people just eat this sh*t up. 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Amazing how, season after season, Jets fans will throw their bodies in front of any and all attacks toward Woody Johnson and the upper tiers of the Jets franchise despite all evidence pointing to rampant dysfunction in the operation and leadership of this franchise 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Amazing how, season after season, Jets fans will throw their bodies in front of any and all attacks toward Woody Johnson and the upper tiers of the Jets franchise despite all evidence pointing to rampant dysfunction in the operation and leadership of this franchise This is not about trying to defend him. It's about how people just live for articles like this. It's like they feed off it. News flash. Woody isn't selling the team. It was a phenomenal investment for him. It makes him a sh*tload of money. Doesn't matter how much whining the fans do. So many here are like battered women that cry to their sisters but never leave their wife beating husband. Not much else to care about other than floating out/reading between the lines of what actually goes down at 1JD. Woody has always been running the show. How everything else follows is the most interesting discussion we can have at this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, bicketybam said: 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Amazing how, season after season, Jets fans will throw their bodies in front of any and all attacks toward Woody Johnson and the upper tiers of the Jets franchise despite all evidence pointing to rampant dysfunction in the operation and leadership of this franchise This is not about trying to defend him. It's about how people just live for articles like this. It's like they feed off it. News flash. Woody isn't selling the team. It was a phenomenal investment for him. It makes him a sh*tload of money. Doesn't matter how much whining the fans do. So many here are like battered women that cry to their sisters but never leave their wife beating husband. Yes, people enjoy articles detailing the how and why of their franchise’s struggles. Coverage of those mechanisms is going to be critical and negative. The question is why anyone would want to consume content from the talent-free Eric Allen that elides the fact that the team sucks, has sucked, and is on track to suck. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 They went 7-10 with the worst QB in the league and a rag tag bunch of o lineman. These doom and gloom articles are great for fans of Real Housewives but in the real world don't mean squadoosh. The Revenge Tour will be glorious. Book it. Lock it up. It's happening. 3 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mogglez Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Still waiting on Tony Pauline to deliver on his “sources tell me Deebo Samuel will be a Jet come draft night” story. Not only was Rex Hogan not the leaker, he wasn’t even fired. It was an “amicable parting of ways” that was requested by Hogan weeks before the news broke that he wouldn’t be returning. Like, the part about Keith Carter is true but any monkey following Titans and Jets players on social media could have told you that. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 14 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Yes, people enjoy articles detailing the how and why of their franchise’s struggles. Coverage of those mechanisms is going to be critical and negative. The question is why anyone would want to consume content from the talent-free Eric Allen that elides the fact that the team sucks, has sucked, and is on track to suck. 5 years later… 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Still waiting on Tony Pauline to deliver on his “sources tell me Deebo Samuel will be a Jet come draft night” story. Not only was Rex Hogan not the leaker, he wasn’t even fired. It was an “amicable parting of ways” that was requested by Hogan weeks before the news broke that he wouldn’t be returning. I remember Pauline "reporting" that Wink Martindale was absolutely going to be hired by Joe Douglas as the head coach once they fired Gase. I don't think they even interview Wink if I remember correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Nice to see we're reached the "every man for himself, leak that it's not my fault, it's those other guys/the Owners fault!" stage of this collapse. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 You only need to be right on one qb to change it all. They just keep picking lemons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Nice to see we're reached the "every man for himself, leak that it's not my fault, it's those other guys/the Owners fault!" stage of this collapse. We’re at the intermediate point in the cycle where nobody can take blame and nobody can blame the owner either. It’s the stage right before we clean house. My favorite stage. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Take out "Media" and just leave "Criticism", and then replace Woody with JD, and you'd be 100% right. I've never seen a failed GM get so much of a pass for his poor record as JD has here. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 43 minutes ago, fullblast said: Exactly! His articles always read like a mashup of fan takes from this forum/Twitter. Agreed, just another parasite trying to be relevant. Might be a little harsh but that is how these guys exist, they feed off negativity and cringe if they ever have to say something remotely positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 16 minutes ago, Pac said: They went 7-10 with the worst QB in the league and a rag tag bunch of o lineman. These doom and gloom articles are great for fans of Real Housewives but in the real world don't mean squadoosh. The Revenge Tour will be glorious. Book it. Lock it up. It's happening. Sounds like what Zach Fans said about Zach, right before they started saying he was the worst QB in the league....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: You only need to be right on one qb to change it all. They just keep picking lemons. It’s the only way any of this can be saved. Rodgers was probably miscalculated, but it was at least something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: I remember Pauline "reporting" that Wink Martindale was absolutely going to be hired by Joe Douglas as the head coach once they fired Gase. I don't think they even interview Wink if I remember correctly. The value of Pauline is that he goes to the Shrine and Senior Bowls where he rubs elbows with scouts he knows. Scouts, obviously, aren’t necessarily plugged in to all the inner workings of the home office, but they’re information peddlers nonetheless 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Long Island Leprechaun Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: This is only the 10,000th article detailing how Woody is a meddling dimwit. Anyone who ever tries to suggest that Woody isn’t the A-1 reason for the dysfunction with this franchise should be banned to the phantom zone immediately Yup. Can't believe there are some posters here who think he has nothing to do with the Jets' disfunction. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, Warfish said: Take out "Media" and just leave "Criticism", and then replace Woody with JD, and you'd be 100% right. I've never seen a failed GM get so much of a pass for his poor record as JD has here. Douglas lives and dies on the back of the 22 draft. Agreed he doesn’t get smacked around nearly as much as he should, but that’s because there are easier targets in Zach and Saleh. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 45 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Gutman asked Beningo once why he cared so much Wow. That’s crazy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 19 minutes ago, Matt39 said: It’s the only way any of this can be saved. Rodgers was probably miscalculated, but it was at least something. And sadly, this is a year they could stay at 10 and pick a qb and fix it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The value of Pauline is that he goes to the Shrine and Senior Bowls where he rubs elbows with scouts he knows. Scouts, obviously, aren’t necessarily plugged in to all the inner workings of the home office, but they’re information peddlers nonetheless Right and these scouts are dopes that are used as bait to see who will leak random fake information. Scout: "I heard we're signing Michael Jordan to play QB." Pauline: "Really?!? Oh boy oh boy...glad I showed up today." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 This stuff is beyond stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 29 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: Yup. Can't believe there are some posters here who think he has nothing to do with the Jets' disfunction. I don’t have the handbook on me, but I’m told the ambassador role leaves you locked in a cage without electricity for four years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: Right and these scouts are dopes that are used as bait to see who will leak random fake information. Scout: "I heard we're signing Michael Jordan to play QB." Pauline: "Really?!? Oh boy oh boy...glad I showed up today." Right, but you consume this information through that lens. Are these lower-level employees speculating about who Douglas will hire or sign? Probably. But are they lying about Woody sitting in on exit interviews? Probably not, because that’d be a verifiable thing that they’d know about. These scouts just watched Woody threaten their employment with a playoff mandate after openly kneecapping the org with Zach Wilson for the bulk of their employment. They’re gonna express some frustrations lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Tony Pauline “breaking story” that Russini broke 2 weeks ago. Pauline and Russini both "broke" stories without finding out that Rex Hogan was gone weeks before. Good effort, press. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Right, but you consume this information through that lens. Are these lower-level employees speculating about who Douglas will hire or sign? Probably. But are they lying about Woody sitting in on exit interviews? Probably not, because that’d be a verifiable thing that they’d know about. These scouts just watched Woody threaten their employment with a playoff mandate after openly kneecapping the org with Zach Wilson for the bulk of their employment. They’re gonna express some frustrations lol Woody may have had a role in keeping wilson around last year, but i am not of the opinion he had a hand in drafting him. If the gm and his friend said take fields, that’s who we’d have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jack Straw Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 The dysfunction within the Jets organization is systemic. Joe Douglas' crowning achievement seems to be duping Woody Johnson into handing him a six-year contract, a masterclass in capitalizing on naivety of a billionaire dummy who's never worked a day in his life. Saleh is nothing more than a passenger, comfortably leeching off the fortune amassed by Woody's grandaddy, with nothing to show for it. The Jets are the laughing stock of the NFL, a graveyard for has-beens seeking one last payday, a sanctuary for mediocrity where washed-up players and awful coaches find refuge (looking at you, Mr. Hackett). It's a place where ambition goes to die, and the bar for success is impossibly low. Accountability is a foreign concept in this organization. The culture is one of complacency and acceptance of failure. Thing will never change. 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Right, but you consume this information through that lens. Are these lower-level employees speculating about who Douglas will hire or sign? Probably. But are they lying about Woody sitting in on exit interviews? Probably not, because that’d be a verifiable thing that they’d know about. These scouts just watched Woody threaten their employment with a playoff mandate after openly kneecapping the org with Zach Wilson for the bulk of their employment. They’re gonna express some frustrations lol When Zach is on the roster next year, now everyone can point to the woody sound byte and say it’s not him keeping him here. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: Pauline and Russini both "broke" stories without finding out that Rex Hogan was gone weeks before. Good effort, press. Pauline wants so bad to be relevant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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