k-met57 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1. i like MN as a prospect 2. you wont be able to name a WR drafted high with his attitude who's actually worked out for the team thats drafted them he will wear out his welcome in NY within 3 years, and as early as this season with the QB situation 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 33 minutes ago, k-met57 said: 1. i like MN as a prospect 2. you wont be able to name a WR drafted high with his attitude who's actually worked out for the team thats drafted them he will wear out his welcome in NY within 3 years, and as early as this season with the QB situation aaannndddd here you go.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 4 minutes ago, k-met57 said: aaannndddd here you go.... I tried to watch some of that gane drew lock stinks That could be cutlets team by week 6 if jones struggles or gets hurt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 On 8/7/2024 at 2:05 AM, PositiveJetFan said: In all seriousness Nabers may be the real deal, but I didn’t think it was even possible to generate this much hype in training camp. Usually it at least took a preseason game or two. Either way typical Jets wining those two meaningless games. We lose out on the greatest player of all time and draft a backup tackle who couldn’t even block Michael Clemons per Hughes. Hope you can sense the sarcasm in my post. I remember another rookie that had similar hype around him during his first preseason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Nabers very good, Daniel Jones very bad. Drew Lock worse. Cutlets is chopped liver. Gints suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 14 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Jones looks like the 3rd best qb on the giants once again .. Jets definitely have the best qb, and now the 2nd best qb in NYC ( NJ ) ha. It’s not even close. Giants fans hate Daniel jones even more than jets fans now hate Zach Wilson despite the fact Jones has actually done stuff in the nfl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 14 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Jones looks like the 3rd best qb on the giants once again .. Jets definitely have the best qb, and now the 2nd best qb in NYC ( NJ ) ha. It’s not even close. Giants fans hate Daniel jones even more than jets fans now hate Zach Wilson despite the fact Jones has actually done stuff in the nfl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, Trotter said: I tried to watch some of that gane drew lock stinks That could be cutlets team by week 6 if jones struggles or gets hurt Oh my God he complained about Drew Lock being a Zach Wilson clone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 3 hours ago, k-met57 said: aaannndddd here you go.... That would be very worrisome if I'm a Giant fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 [/url] In all seriousness Nabers may be the real deal, but I didn’t think it was even possible to generate this much hype in training camp. Usually it at least took a preseason game or two. Either way typical Jets wining those two meaningless games. We lose out on the greatest player of all time and draft a backup tackle who couldn’t even block Michael Clemons per Hughes. Hope you can sense the sarcasm in my post. You may be sarcastic but there are many people who constantly whine about winning meaningless games.I don’t hear anyone whining that we won too many games and missed out on Reggie Bush or Marcus Mariota. Odd how those names disappeared from the lexicon Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 6 minutes ago, mfmartin said: You may be sarcastic but there are many people who constantly whine about winning meaningless games. I don’t hear anyone whining that we won too many games and missed out on Reggie Bush or Marcus Mariota. Odd how those names disappeared from the lexicon It doesn't really matter who is on the top of the board in a given year. High picks mean high draft capital, impacting each of your subsequent picks in each round and also giving you the opportunity to trade down for a king's ransom. The Eagles wanted to move up for Mariota that year, if I recall, and would have paid handsomely. Hindsight is 20/20, sure, but the opportunity was there for the Titans to completely rebuild their program, similar to the way the Rams did when they traded down with Washington for # 2 overall (RG3) and ended up parlaying that into a SB-caliber roster. The Jets have missed out on top-tier talent and trade down opportunities time and time again by winning meaningless December/January games and yet Jets fans are some of the worst anti-tankers. It's truly baffling. There's tangible evidence that in a lost season its better to lose down the stretch than win yet so many here fight against that notion every time. How's winning those games helped the Jets over the years, exactly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: It doesn't really matter who is on the top of the board in a given year. High picks mean high draft capital, impacting each of your subsequent picks in each round and also giving you the opportunity to trade down for a king's ransom. The Eagles wanted to move up for Mariota that year, if I recall, and would have paid handsomely. Hindsight is 20/20, sure, but the opportunity was there for the Titans to completely rebuild their program, similar to the way the Rams did when they traded down with Washington for # 2 overall (RG3) and ended up parlaying that into a SB-caliber roster. The Jets have missed out on top-tier talent and trade down opportunities time and time again by winning meaningless December/January games and yet Jets fans are some of the worst anti-tankers. It's truly baffling. There's tangible evidence that in a lost season its better to lose down the stretch than win yet so many here fight against that notion every time. How's winning those games helped the Jets over the years, exactly? Now hold on 80 - are you saying that the Jets should have lost to the Rams guaranteeing they select Travor Lawrence over Zach Wilson? Is that really where you are going? 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 11 minutes ago, Trotter said: Now hold on 80 - are you saying that the Jets should have lost to the Rams guaranteeing they select Travor Lawrence over Zach Wilson? Is that really where you are going? 😀 losing to the Rams would have resulted in the same outcome, they would have been tied with Jacksonville and lose on a tiebreaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 2 minutes ago, k-met57 said: losing to the Rams would have resulted in the same outcome, they would have been tied with Jacksonville and lose on a tiebreaker. my bad - i thought they had 1 locked up with that loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 8 minutes ago, Trotter said: my bad - i thought they had 1 locked up with that loss Nope, needed the winless season. Because of course - nothing comes easy for the Jets, including being the worst at sucking! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 59 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: That would be very worrisome if I'm a Giant fan. Agreed, but you not, so F them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 3 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Nope, needed the winless season. Because of course - nothing comes easy for the Jets, including being the worst at sucking! I agree. The only way they could have gotten T-Law was to go 0-16. Another wonderful stat for the NYJ. I didn't want that back then, and I'm still happy it didn't happen. Zach may not have turned out the way we hoped, but neither has T-Law. "generational" my a$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 On 8/7/2024 at 11:13 AM, Gastineau Lives said: That receiver caught 38 passes as a senior and was drafted in the second round. Darren Waller only caught 26 passes as a senior and wentin the 6th round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 3 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Giants fans hate Daniel jones even more than jets fans now hate Zach Wilson despite the fact Jones has actually done stuff in the nfl I don’t know about that. I think jones has a lot more fan boys than Zach did ( post 2022 disaster season ) . Especially by mid season last yr lol. Some guy just commented he is sure Daniel jones will throw for over 4k, and have a top 12 QBR.. I had to laugh in his face lol. I don’t think he has any chance of not getting released end of yr. They are wasting Nabers without a real qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 53 minutes ago, Legend Killa7 said: I agree. The only way they could have gotten T-Law was to go 0-16. Another wonderful stat for the NYJ. I didn't want that back then, and I'm still happy it didn't happen. Zach may not have turned out the way we hoped, but neither has T-Law. "generational" my a$$. I'd have liked to have traded down from 1. Or 2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 It doesn't really matter who is on the top of the board in a given year. High picks mean high draft capital, impacting each of your subsequent picks in each round and also giving you the opportunity to trade down for a king's ransom. The Eagles wanted to move up for Mariota that year, if I recall, and would have paid handsomely. Hindsight is 20/20, sure, but the opportunity was there for the Titans to completely rebuild their program, similar to the way the Rams did when they traded down with Washington for # 2 overall (RG3) and ended up parlaying that into a SB-caliber roster. The Jets have missed out on top-tier talent and trade down opportunities time and time again by winning meaningless December/January games and yet Jets fans are some of the worst anti-tankers. It's truly baffling. There's tangible evidence that in a lost season its better to lose down the stretch than win yet so many here fight against that notion every time. How's winning those games helped the Jets over the years, exactly?Obviously you would like the higher pick each round, but the draft is a crap shoot. Complaining and working yourself up over a lottery ticket for literal years is ridiculous. The coaches and players aren’t going to lay down so I don’t understand why Jets fans get themselves into a tizzy over it. The Steelers haven’t had a losing season since 2003 and are considered one of the best drafting teams every year. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 It doesn't really matter who is on the top of the board in a given year. High picks mean high draft capital, impacting each of your subsequent picks in each round and also giving you the opportunity to trade down for a king's ransom. The Eagles wanted to move up for Mariota that year, if I recall, and would have paid handsomely. Hindsight is 20/20, sure, but the opportunity was there for the Titans to completely rebuild their program, similar to the way the Rams did when they traded down with Washington for # 2 overall (RG3) and ended up parlaying that into a SB-caliber roster. The Jets have missed out on top-tier talent and trade down opportunities time and time again by winning meaningless December/January games and yet Jets fans are some of the worst anti-tankers. It's truly baffling. There's tangible evidence that in a lost season its better to lose down the stretch than win yet so many here fight against that notion every time. How's winning those games helped the Jets over the years, exactly?On a side note, a quarterback is the only time you are allowed to be upset over these things. I understand being upset over Lawrence, I don’t understand being upset over Malik Nabers when there are tons of good receivers every year to find. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 9 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I'd have liked to have traded down from 1. Or 2! i was all in on keeping Sam, taking Chase or Sewell and seeing what happens. After a while, i did take the bait on Wilsons talent, but i think i talked myself into it because i knew it was a done deal. Keeping Sam and drafting one of the 8-10 HOF's in that top 15 was the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I'd have liked to have traded down from 1. Or 2! 2? yes, fine in hindsight. but to go 0-16, to be one of only a couple of teams to ever have done that awful, and then.....to trade the pick away? not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 10 minutes ago, mfmartin said: On a side note, a quarterback is the only time you are allowed to be upset over these things. I understand being upset over Lawrence, I don’t understand being upset over Malik Nabers when there are tons of good receivers every year to find. I'm allowed to be upset over this any time I'd like, and there's 2 things you can do about it: 1) Nothing, and 2) Like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 13 minutes ago, mfmartin said: Obviously you would like the higher pick each round, but the draft is a crap shoot. Complaining and working yourself up over a lottery ticket for literal years is ridiculous. The coaches and players aren’t going to lay down so I don’t understand why Jets fans get themselves into a tizzy over it. The Steelers haven’t had a losing season since 2003 and are considered one of the best drafting teams every year. No, its not a crap shoot. It's a game of poker. The best players (Ravens, Steelers, 49ers, etc) tend to be at the "final table" more than others. Which is evidence that pick slot matters even more for teams like the Jets that struggle to draft effectively. Hell, Macc even stumbled into a winner in Quinnen Williams by accident because he was picking 3rd that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Darren Waller only caught 26 passes as a senior and wentin the 6th round I had Tuna with red onions and red wine vinegar on Italian bread for lunch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 I'm allowed to be upset over this any time I'd like, and there's 2 things you can do about it: 1) Nothing, and 2) Like it.You can be a whiny bitch about something you can’t change or control, if that’s your desire because the team didn’t lay down for a lottery ticket. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 No, its not a crap shoot. It's a game of poker. The best players (Ravens, Steelers, 49ers, etc) tend to be at the "final table" more than others. Which is evidence that pick slot matters even more for teams like the Jets that struggle to draft effectively. Hell, Macc even stumbled into a winner in Quinnen Williams by accident because he was picking 3rd that year.The problem then isn’t the draft position, it’s the person making the picks. Thanks for proving my point. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, Jetsplayer21 said: I don’t know about that. I think jones has a lot more fan boys than Zach did ( post 2022 disaster season ) . Especially by mid season last yr lol. Some guy just commented he is sure Daniel jones will throw for over 4k, and have a top 12 QBR.. I had to laugh in his face lol. I don’t think he has any chance of not getting released end of yr. They are wasting Nabers without a real qb. All the Giants fans I know and I know alot of them unfortunately they passionately hate Daniel Jones and wanted a quarterback in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, mfmartin said: You can be a whiny bitch about something you can’t change or control, if that’s your desire because the team didn’t lay down for a lottery ticket. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Thanks for the permission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 On 8/7/2024 at 1:05 AM, PositiveJetFan said: In all seriousness Nabers may be the real deal, but I didn’t think it was even possible to generate this much hype in training camp. Usually it at least took a preseason game or two. Either way typical Jets wining those two meaningless games. We lose out on the greatest player of all time and draft a backup tackle who couldn’t even block Michael Clemons per Hughes. Hope you can sense the sarcasm in my post. The better choice was always a tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 3 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: All the Giants fans I know and I know alot of them unfortunately they passionately hate Daniel Jones and wanted a quarterback in the draft I don’t know why people hate someone, it’s not his fault he sucks lol. Never should have been picked in the 1st round. Know if was 1 of weakest qb drafts , but huge stretch at 6 overall. Gm did try to trade up for Maye or Daniels. Winning 1 more game last yr is why they weren’t able to do just that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Thanks for the permission No problem. I can be here on your journey to emotional maturity. Let me know if I can be of assistance.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 15 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: It doesn't really matter who is on the top of the board in a given year. High picks mean high draft capital, impacting each of your subsequent picks in each round and also giving you the opportunity to trade down for a king's ransom. The Eagles wanted to move up for Mariota that year, if I recall, and would have paid handsomely. Hindsight is 20/20, sure, but the opportunity was there for the Titans to completely rebuild their program, similar to the way the Rams did when they traded down with Washington for # 2 overall (RG3) and ended up parlaying that into a SB-caliber roster. The Jets have missed out on top-tier talent and trade down opportunities time and time again by winning meaningless December/January games and yet Jets fans are some of the worst anti-tankers. It's truly baffling. There's tangible evidence that in a lost season its better to lose down the stretch than win yet so many here fight against that notion every time. How's winning those games helped the Jets over the years, exactly? Considering that Nabers wasn’t the first player or even first WR drafted this year, there is some irony in the complaints that we should have lost more to secure the WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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