Important Win, But Much To Work On ...

[KRL]

Since no one plays during the real pre-season, we are now in the "pre-season"
phase of the regular season.  Which leads to a ton of uneven and outright ugly
football, the Jets won but there's a ton of work to be done.  A win against NE
and a "mini-bye" to work on things is crucial:

- Irv Charles may never make a catch in the league, but he'll be a Pro Bowler
on special teans.  His ability to alter field position by blocking and covering
kicks is unique, usually they do one or the other

- The run defense was improved, excluding Will Levis scrambles (38 yards), they
held TEN to 24 rushes for 92 yards.  Quinnen Williams and Javon Kinlaw were
decent clogging the middle

- Jamien Sherwood and Qunicy Williams picked up their games as CJ Mosley went down.
Sherwood was tremendous with 12 Tackles, TFL and PBU.  While Williams was his normal
sideline to sideline self with 9 Tackles and a fumble recovery.  Amazing how the LBs
look much better when the DLine doesn't get pushed around

- Brandin Echols was the best CB on the field yesterday.  Generating 5 Tackles, PBU
and an acrobatic one handed INT

- In my eyes it was a down game for Sauce Gardner, giving up a TD to Ridley on a pass
that should've been intercepted or knocked down at worst

- Solomon Thomas had a nice stat game 3 Tackles, Sack, TFL, PBU and a QB Hit.  But 
he's got to tighten up his tackling because he let Levis slip through his hands a
couple of times

- The defensive star of the game was Will McDonald with 4 Tackles, 3 Sacks, 3 TFL and
3 QB Hits. The most impressive part of his performance was he mixed power with his speed
getting to the QB.  And he was able to anchor the edge on running plays

- Awful that Jermaine Johnson went down, this increases Haason Reddick's "leverage"
but I don't expect to see him this week.  In fact I wouldn't be shocked if Joe
Douglas signs Carl Lawson as DE depth, he knows the team/scheme and his strength
would provide good insurance for the edge run defense

- Solid OLine pass protection, inconsistent run blocking.  Too many tackles at or behind
the line on the RBs.  A fair question is, was that due to the blocking or "vanilla"
running plays

- In fact the play calling was lacking all day.  Not enough targets for Garrett Wilson,
Tyler Conklin, Allen Lazard or Mike Wiliams in my opinion

- Breece Hall was effective with 14 rushes for 62 yards and 7 catches for 52 yards and
a TD.  But as stated before he he was hit in the backfield way too much

- Braelon Allen is going to be a problem for defenses with his size and speed.  Generating
7 rushes for 33 yards and a TD in the run game.  And 2 catches for 23 yards and a TD in
the pass game.  Allen reminded me of Derrick Henry with the way he ran over people

- It wasn't a Hall Of Fame performance by Aaron Rodgers (18/30, 176 yards, 2 TD), in fact
wasting timeouts and getting a delay of game penalty due to bad clock management was
embarrassing.  But his ability to "freestyle" and make plays with his receivers got the win:

 * Isolating Hall on a TEN LB and hitting him for a TD to put the Jets up 14-10
 * Isolating Wilson on a TEN CB to get a huge first down on the final drive of the game
 * Throwing a "jump ball" to Williams to get another huge first down on the final drive 

Also encouraging, coming off his injury, was his ability to move in the pocket and actually
scramble away from the rush multiple times 

 

 

[KRL]

A couple of other things:

- Pathetic "roughing the passer" call on Jermaine Johnson.  He hit Levis exactly
when he threw the ball and immediately backed off never taking him to the ground.
Its sickening how soft this sport has become

- Props to former Jet DB coach Dennard Wilson who is now the TEN DC.  I always
loved his coaching style and so far he's doing a good job with TEN defense

[rangerous]

All pretty fair points but it does look like the team is starting to gel.  The oline and dline played much better.  I know people will say it’s only the titans but the titans came to play and lost mainly because of qb play.  Their olines and dline are pretty good.

 I think other receivers will start to get involved.  Nice to see Williams getting a key reception.  Also nice to see Rodgers trying to hook up with Lazard on a fly pattern. 

[Alka]

16 minutes ago, KRL said:

Since no one plays during the real pre-season, we are now in the "pre-season"
phase of the regular season.  Which leads to a ton of uneven and outright ugly
football, the Jets won but there's a ton of work to be done.  A win against NE
and a "mini-bye" to work on things is crucial:

- Irv Charles may never make a catch in the league, but he'll be a Pro Bowler
on special teans.  His ability to alter field position by blocking and covering
kicks is unique, usually they do one or the other

- The run defense was improved, excluding Will Levis scrambles (38 yards), they
held TEN to 24 rushes for 92 yards.  Quinnen Williams and Javon Kinlaw were
decent clogging the middle

- Jamien Sherwood and Qunicy Williams picked up their games as CJ Mosley went down.
Sherwood was tremendous with 12 Tackles, TFL and PBU.  While Williams was his normal
sideline to sideline self with 9 Tackles and a fumble recovery.  Amazing how the LBs
look much better when the DLine doesn't get pushed around

- Brandin Echols was the best CB on the field yesterday.  Generating 5 Tackles, PBU
and an acrobatic one handed INT

- In my eyes it was a down game for Sauce Gardner, giving up a TD to Ridley on a pass
that should've been intercepted or knocked down at worst

- Solomon Thomas had a nice stat game 3 Tackles, Sack, TFL, PBU and a QB Hit.  But 
he's got to tighten up his tackling because he let Levis slip through his hands a
couple of times

- The defensive star of the game was Will McDonald with 4 Tackles, 3 Sacks, 3 TFL and
3 QB Hits. The most impressive part of his performance was he mixed power with his speed
getting to the QB.  And he was able to anchor the edge on running plays

- Awful that Jermaine Johnson went down, this increases Haason Reddick's "leverage"
but I don't expect to see him this week.  In fact I wouldn't be shocked if Joe
Douglas signs Carl Lawson as DE depth, he knows the team/scheme and his strength
would provide good insurance for the edge run defense

- Solid OLine pass protection, inconsistent run blocking.  Too many tackles at or behind
the line on the RBs.  A fair question is, was that due to the blocking or "vanilla"
running plays

- In fact the play calling was lacking all day.  Not enough targets for Garrett Wilson,
Tyler Conklin, Allen Lazard or Mike Wiliams in my opinion

- Breece Hall was effective with 14 rushes for 62 yards and 7 catches for 52 yards and
a TD.  But as stated before he he was hit in the backfield way too much

- Braelon Allen is going to be a problem for defenses with his size and speed.  Generating
7 rushes for 33 yards and a TD in the run game.  And 2 catches for 23 yards and a TD in
the pass game.  Allen reminded me of Derrick Henry with the way he ran over people

- It wasn't a Hall Of Fame performance by Aaron Rodgers (18/30, 176 yards, 2 TD), in fact
wasting timeouts and getting a delay of game penalty due to bad clock management was
embarrassing.  But his ability to "freestyle" and make plays with his receivers got the win:

 * Isolating Hall on a TEN LB and hitting him for a TD to put the Jets up 14-10
 * Isolating Wilson on a TEN CB to get a huge first down on the final drive of the game
 * Throwing a "jump ball" to Williams to get another huge first down on the final drive 

Also encouraging, coming off his injury, was his ability to move in the pocket and actually
scramble away from the rush multiple times 

 

 

I continue to love your analysis, insights and thoughts.  Please continue to give us your thoughts on every game.  You are the best!

[Matt39]

Nice summary

[OilfieldJet]

Great summary, Irv Charles was terrific on ST - pro bowl all star good.

[funaz]

I thought the rust started to come off half way through the second quarter. Still more to go, but I think this was as good a game as we could have hoped for and a nice bounce back from the rusty week 1


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[Guilhermezmc]

We should throw more in the first half / series, get Corley on the field on early downs get some YAC action going.

 

[jetswin]

Interesting idea Lawson, hadn't considered that option. Good call

[BreeceHallofFame]

sh*tting on Sauce for that play is pretty crazy to me. He had great coverage and Clark was coming in for the INT. The ball miraculously went through Clark’s hands and into Ridley. It was a very well defended fluke play. 

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

sh*tting on Sauce for that play is pretty crazy to me. He had great coverage and Clark was coming in for the INT. The ball miraculously went through Clark’s hands and into Ridley. It was a very well defended fluke play. 

He has zero ball skills. 26 games in a row without an interception. Doesn’t tackle. 

[BreeceHallofFame]

Just now, Matt39 said:

He has zero ball skills. 26 games in a row without an interception. Doesn’t tackle. 

cut him then 

Revis had zero INTs in 2010 btw

[CanadaSteve]

30 minutes ago, KRL said:

- Pathetic "roughing the passer" call on Jermaine Johnson.  He hit Levis exactly
when he threw the ball and immediately backed off never taking him to the ground.
Its sickening how soft this sport has become

 

It's getting to the point where the NFL brass are going to have to make a decision:

1) Do you make players wear the best helmets to protect them as best you can, but understand this is a violent sport and you have to allow tackling to happen?

2) Do you just completely shut the NFL down and make it a better flag football product?

This half-in-the-middle crap can't last.  The referees are now changing the outcomes of games.  The product won't be worth watching in another decade if they continue on this route.  

 

[Matt39]

Just now, BreeceHallofFame said:

cut him then 

Revis had zero INTs in 2010 btw

Revis played man. Revis also tackled. Sauce was supposed to be Richard Sherman in this defense and is nothing close. Hyping this kid up has been silly. He’s just not that good.

[BradSmith16fan]

33 minutes ago, KRL said:

A couple of other things:

- Pathetic "roughing the passer" call on Jermaine Johnson.  He hit Levis exactly
when he threw the ball and immediately backed off never taking him to the ground.
Its sickening how soft this sport has become

- Props to former Jet DB coach Dennard Wilson who is now the TEN DC.  I always
loved his coaching style and so far he's doing a good job with TEN defense

Also the play before the bs call, Johnson was held blatantly and no call. Refs were in mid-season form.

[BreeceHallofFame]

3 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Revis played man. Revis also tackled. Sauce was supposed to be Richard Sherman in this defense and is nothing close. Hyping this kid up has been silly. He’s just not that good.

He doesn’t allow the defender to catch the ball. Sorry that he doesn’t satisfy your ADHD need for highlights 

[ChuckkieB]

Hackett is going to be a liability.  No creativity. Very predictable. Doesn't create space for players to make plays. Leaning on Rodgers to audible into a good play and Breece and Wilson to create on their own all season is not going to be sustainable. This is going to be exposed even more if the defense has in fact come down a notch and isn't going to be elite.  

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, KRL said:

Since no one plays during the real pre-season, we are now in the "pre-season"
phase of the regular season.  Which leads to a ton of uneven and outright ugly
football, the Jets won but there's a ton of work to be done.  A win against NE
and a "mini-bye" to work on things is crucial:

- Irv Charles may never make a catch in the league, but he'll be a Pro Bowler
on special teans.  His ability to alter field position by blocking and covering
kicks is unique, usually they do one or the other

- The run defense was improved, excluding Will Levis scrambles (38 yards), they
held TEN to 24 rushes for 92 yards.  Quinnen Williams and Javon Kinlaw were
decent clogging the middle

- Jamien Sherwood and Qunicy Williams picked up their games as CJ Mosley went down.
Sherwood was tremendous with 12 Tackles, TFL and PBU.  While Williams was his normal
sideline to sideline self with 9 Tackles and a fumble recovery.  Amazing how the LBs
look much better when the DLine doesn't get pushed around

- Brandin Echols was the best CB on the field yesterday.  Generating 5 Tackles, PBU
and an acrobatic one handed INT

- In my eyes it was a down game for Sauce Gardner, giving up a TD to Ridley on a pass
that should've been intercepted or knocked down at worst

- Solomon Thomas had a nice stat game 3 Tackles, Sack, TFL, PBU and a QB Hit.  But 
he's got to tighten up his tackling because he let Levis slip through his hands a
couple of times

- The defensive star of the game was Will McDonald with 4 Tackles, 3 Sacks, 3 TFL and
3 QB Hits. The most impressive part of his performance was he mixed power with his speed
getting to the QB.  And he was able to anchor the edge on running plays

- Awful that Jermaine Johnson went down, this increases Haason Reddick's "leverage"
but I don't expect to see him this week.  In fact I wouldn't be shocked if Joe
Douglas signs Carl Lawson as DE depth, he knows the team/scheme and his strength
would provide good insurance for the edge run defense

- Solid OLine pass protection, inconsistent run blocking.  Too many tackles at or behind
the line on the RBs.  A fair question is, was that due to the blocking or "vanilla"
running plays

- In fact the play calling was lacking all day.  Not enough targets for Garrett Wilson,
Tyler Conklin, Allen Lazard or Mike Wiliams in my opinion

- Breece Hall was effective with 14 rushes for 62 yards and 7 catches for 52 yards and
a TD.  But as stated before he he was hit in the backfield way too much

- Braelon Allen is going to be a problem for defenses with his size and speed.  Generating
7 rushes for 33 yards and a TD in the run game.  And 2 catches for 23 yards and a TD in
the pass game.  Allen reminded me of Derrick Henry with the way he ran over people

- It wasn't a Hall Of Fame performance by Aaron Rodgers (18/30, 176 yards, 2 TD), in fact
wasting timeouts and getting a delay of game penalty due to bad clock management was
embarrassing.  But his ability to "freestyle" and make plays with his receivers got the win:

 * Isolating Hall on a TEN LB and hitting him for a TD to put the Jets up 14-10
 * Isolating Wilson on a TEN CB to get a huge first down on the final drive of the game
 * Throwing a "jump ball" to Williams to get another huge first down on the final drive 

Also encouraging, coming off his injury, was his ability to move in the pocket and actually
scramble away from the rush multiple times 

 

 

Yeah, at least for one game looks like a solid 3 down guy. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Coach Bobby postgame to his guys:

”this wasn’t a good win, guy. No, this was a great win”

😂😂

Barely squeaking by a team you’re supposed to beat that’s projected to be among the worst teams in football is a “great win”.

Aaron is a winner and is trying to change the mindset of the team.

Whereas Coach Bob sets the bar so freaking low…

[Larz]

3 hours ago, Matt39 said:

He has zero ball skills. 26 games in a row without an interception. Doesn’t tackle. 

Call him out on social media. He reads comments. Link the conversation here. 
 

[Matt39]

26 minutes ago, Larz said:

Call him out on social media. He reads comments. Link the conversation here. 
 

Local idiot  demanding random person post something on twitter. I’ll pass

[CanadaSteve]

3 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Revis played man. Revis also tackled. Sauce was supposed to be Richard Sherman in this defense and is nothing close. Hyping this kid up has been silly. He’s just not that good.

That is a hot take.

Hot excrement, but it's a hot take nonetheless!

[TBJ]

@Pac

[frankiepapa]

Great summary, Irv Charles was terrific on ST - pro bowl all star good.

Can understand why we let Hardee walk

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[nycdan]

6 hours ago, KRL said:

A couple of other things:

- Pathetic "roughing the passer" call on Jermaine Johnson.  He hit Levis exactly
when he threw the ball and immediately backed off never taking him to the ground.
Its sickening how soft this sport has become

 

Why in the world is the NFL so opposed to allowing that call to be challenged.  Those are often game-altering calls.  They tried it for one season after that mind-exploding non-call in the Rams-Saints playoff game and then gave it up.  Coaches only have so many challenges.  That seems like a reasonable way to use one.

[varjet]

On 9/16/2024 at 10:15 AM, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Coach Bobby postgame to his guys:

”this wasn’t a good win, guy. No, this was a great win”

😂😂

Barely squeaking by a team you’re supposed to beat that’s projected to be among the worst teams in football is a “great win”.

Aaron is a winner and is trying to change the mindset of the team.

Whereas Coach Bob sets the bar so freaking low…

The Titans have a very solid defense and OL.   They have a good coach.  

I am trying to figure out the worst teams in football now.  The Giants are there.  Miami without Tua probably.