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Johnson getting hurts was horrible all the way around, no sugar coating it.  Hate it for him, hate it for the team, hate it for the fans.  But, it happened, so we have to move forward. 

Here are 5 things the Jets MIGHT do to respond to the injury:

  1. Sign Hasson Reddick
    By far the most discussed and most likely scenario is to sign DE Hasson Reddick.  For the 1st time since the trade, the leverage pendulum has swung over to the Reddick camp.  The Jets might have to offer more money and make a deal for Reddick happen now that Johnson is gone.  It makes sense, it will probably happen, it would probably be a good thing.
  2. Stay "In House"
    The Jets could decide to just stay in house and go with the players they have.  Will McDonald looks like he is ready to be a strong contributor.  Michael Clemons is solid. Takk McKinley isn't great, but he can contribute.  Braiden McGregor is at least a rotational piece.  Jalyn Holmes can be signed to the active roster.  Eric Watts might be able to contribute more.  It's probably realistic to try to go with what we have now and see how it works.
  3. Poach a Practice Squad Player
    The are a lot of decent Johnson-type players on practice squads around the league, not as good as JJ, but maybe the Jets like one of the options and sign them.  The most intriguing name is Carl Lawson in Dallas.  Is that realistic?  In reviewing the list of practice squad players, other options might be Kingsley Jonathan in Buffalo, Solomon Byrd in Houston, Truman Jones in KC, former Jets UDFA Deslin Alexandre in Green Bay, Andre Carter II in Minnesota, and Niko Lalos in New Orleans
  4. Sign a Street Free Agent
    The name that was being thrown around online even while JJ was being carted off the field was veteran edge rusher Yannick Ngakoue and that make a lot of sense.  It could happen.  There are a lot of other decent vets out there.  Is Randy Gregory in play?  Probably not.  Shaq Lawson?  Probably.  There are options out there.
  5. Make a Trade
    The least likely option.  Jets don't have a ton of trade capital or cap space.  Reddick might be their most fungible asset, but they'd rather sign him.  I'm sure there are solid Edge players who might be available for trade, but in season trades are always tricky.
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Obviously on the short week it’s the in house solution. No choice.  

Reddick has just seen a shift in the leverage department, but if he’s all in for a multi-year deal and the Jets don’t want to go beyond this season, I’m not sure where the compromise comes from. I would definitely try to talk some sense into Reddick and his team, though. You guys have any interest in not continuing to pile up fines and maybe getting on the field and earning your next contract? I’ll bump you a couple million in a face saving gesture…

Is Ngakoue a free agent because he’s asking for too much? I see he’s made a little money, but also that his production dropped off a little. He’d be an intriguing prospect, much more so than Lawson, who’s not still on the team for a reason. 
 
I do expect some sort of move at the position after Thursday’s game. 

 

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23 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Johnson getting hurts was horrible all the way around, no sugar coating it.  Hate it for him, hate it for the team, hate it for the fans.  But, it happened, so we have to move forward. 

Here are 5 things the Jets MIGHT do to respond to the injury:

  1. Sign Hasson Reddick
    By far the most discussed and most likely scenario is to sign DE Hasson Reddick.  For the 1st time since the trade, the leverage pendulum has swung over to the Reddick camp.  The Jets might have to offer more money and make a deal for Reddick happen now that Johnson is gone.  It makes sense, it will probably happen, it would probably be a good thing.
  2. Stay "In House"
    The Jets could decide to just stay in house and go with the players they have.  Will McDonald looks like he is ready to be a strong contributor.  Michael Clemons is solid. Takk McKinley isn't great, but he can contribute.  Braiden McGregor is at least a rotational piece.  Jalyn Holmes can be signed to the active roster.  Eric Watts might be able to contribute more.  It's probably realistic to try to go with what we have now and see how it works.
  3. Poach a Practice Squad Player
    The are a lot of decent Johnson-type players on practice squads around the league, not as good as JJ, but maybe the Jets like one of the options and sign them.  The most intriguing name is Carl Lawson in Dallas.  Is that realistic?  In reviewing the list of practice squad players, other options might be Kingsley Jonathan in Buffalo, Solomon Byrd in Houston, Truman Jones in KC, former Jets UDFA Deslin Alexandre in Green Bay, Andre Carter II in Minnesota, and Niko Lalos in New Orleans
  4. Sign a Street Free Agent
    The name that was being thrown around online even while JJ was being carted off the field was veteran edge rusher Yannick Ngakoue and that make a lot of sense.  It could happen.  There are a lot of other decent vets out there.  Is Randy Gregory in play?  Probably not.  Shaq Lawson?  Probably.  There are options out there.
  5. Make a Trade
    The least likely option.  Jets don't have a ton of trade capital or cap space.  Reddick might be their most fungible asset, but they'd rather sign him.  I'm sure there are solid Edge players who might be available for trade, but in season trades are always tricky.

What about that guy Leonard Taylor III? What role does he have in the defensive line? Run stopper? Pass rusher?

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17 minutes ago, Ecuadorian Jet said:

I think you have to call up all those guys: Taylor, Watts, McGregor. Keep throwing darts untill you get one to hit bullseye.

I have no fantasies that the Reddick situation will be now resolved. 

We simply need to find other guys to fill in for the job that Johnson did.

Watts is the wildcard, I think.  He's probably a year away from being physically able to contribute on a regular basis, but he's long and athletic, so maybe he can be a situational piece.

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13 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Watts is the wildcard, I think.  He's probably a year away from being physically able to contribute on a regular basis, but he's long and athletic, so maybe he can be a situational piece.

I could be wrong, but he's more of a pass rushing DT, no? I don't think he's poor in the run game but it's not his strength. With Kinlaw already being more of a pass rush DT, I'm thinking more about the run Defense than anything. McDonald isn't a great run defender at this stage. An edge player with heft would be ideal to take most of the early down reps JJ is vacating (and that our other edge rush specialists can't fill).

McGregor and Watts play DE. Unfortunately, neither is especially bulky. McGregor seemed like the better run defender in pre season to my eye, I think he may be picking up some early down snaps Thursday. Maybe the two can rotate pass rush snaps with McKinley? 

Edit: so sorry, for some reason I mixed up Watts and leonard in my head. In that case, agreed, although as I said I think it could be McGregor as well

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1 hour ago, slats said:

Obviously on the short week it’s the in house solution. No choice.  

Reddick has just seen a shift in the leverage department, but if he’s all in for a multi-year deal and the Jets don’t want to go beyond this season, I’m not sure where the compromise comes from. I would definitely try to talk some sense into Reddick and his team, though. You guys have any interest in not continuing to pile up fines and maybe getting on the field and earning your next contract? I’ll bump you a couple million in a face saving gesture…

Is Ngakoue a free agent because he’s asking for too much? I see he’s made a little money, but also that his production dropped off a little. He’d be an intriguing prospect, much more so than Lawson, who’s not still on the team for a reason. 
 
I do expect some sort of move at the position after Thursday’s game. 

 

I’m open to the idea of Lawson, but in truth I’ve no idea how damaged he is from last season. Dallas didn’t keep him on the active roster, but they’d just drafted another DE in round 2 in April, it’s doubtful Lawson has much use on specials any week he’s not starting, and I guess it’s a better sign they stashed him on the PS than not at all. 

Was it just a back injury last year? He had a solid season in ‘22 after the Achilles injury, so it’s not that. Back injuries are awful and wrenching a back muscle seems to take forever to heal, but he did that in August last year. 

Plus adding him doesn’t preclude working something out with Reddick if/when that might happen later on, without him being an upgrade but nonetheless a redundant addition.

The reason I’m open to him is also the DL’s problem is more they’re lacking a well-rounded end than a one-dimensional edge rushing end. McDonald is the latter; Ngakoue would be another (I wouldn’t rely upon PFF’s rankings alone, but it’s hard to presume them - or anyone - giving him rush D grades in the 20s is a sign of someone who plays the run well). We all find it hard watching Clemons, hoping the light suddenly goes on. 

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4 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said:

I can't recall the particular player but I am pretty sure that in the not so distant past the Jets signed a free agent linemen and then during the season when the team he came from decided it was a mistake, they traded with the Jets to get him back. Perhaps the Jets should pick up the phone and inquire about JFM?

The Eagles, I’m sure, would be happy to listen to offers for Huff. 

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5 hours ago, slats said:

Obviously on the short week it’s the in house solution. No choice.  

Reddick has just seen a shift in the leverage department, but if he’s all in for a multi-year deal and the Jets don’t want to go beyond this season, I’m not sure where the compromise comes from. I would definitely try to talk some sense into Reddick and his team, though. You guys have any interest in not continuing to pile up fines and maybe getting on the field and earning your next contract? I’ll bump you a couple million in a face saving gesture…

Is Ngakoue a free agent because he’s asking for too much? I see he’s made a little money, but also that his production dropped off a little. He’d be an intriguing prospect, much more so than Lawson, who’s not still on the team for a reason. 
 
I do expect some sort of move at the position after Thursday’s game. 

 

I vote a big NO on giving Reddick anything.  Let the jerk play for the contract he signed. I'd rather trade for Jadaveon Clowney.  He could help against both the run and the pass.  He's playing "at home" now with the Panthers, but the Panthers may be amenable to trading him for a 5th or 4th round pick.  They need talent and to do a rebuild.

My second choice would be to sign Ngakoue.

I don't know if there's any team that's really interested in Reddick, but if so I'd ship him to them for a bag of footballs just to get rid of the POS.

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5 hours ago, Ecuadorian Jet said:

What about that guy Leonard Taylor III? What role does he have in the defensive line? Run stopper? Pass rusher?

Taylor is a DT.  He was getting pushed around in the rushing attack vs the scrubs of the Commanders, Panthers and Giants.  He's more of a pass rusher and 3T than a run-stuffing NT.

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5 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

I’m open to the idea of Lawson, but in truth I’ve no idea how damaged he is from last season. Dallas didn’t keep him on the active roster, but they’d just drafted another DE in round 2 in April, it’s doubtful Lawson has much use on specials any week he’s not starting, and I guess it’s a better sign they stashed him on the PS than not at all. 

Was it just a back injury last year? He had a solid season in ‘22 after the Achilles injury, so it’s not that. Back injuries are awful and wrenching a back muscle seems to take forever to heal, but he did that in August last year. 

Plus adding him doesn’t preclude working something out with Reddick if/when that might happen later on, without him being an upgrade but nonetheless a redundant addition.

The reason I’m open to him is also the DL’s problem is more they’re lacking a well-rounded end than a one-dimensional edge rushing end. McDonald is the latter; Ngakoue would be another (I wouldn’t rely upon PFF’s rankings alone, but it’s hard to presume them - or anyone - giving him rush D grades in the 20s is a sign of someone who plays the run well). We all find it hard watching Clemons, hoping the light suddenly goes on. 

My memory may be faulty, but as I remember it, Lawson was never good vs the run.  His best attribute was pressuring the QB.  The same goes for Ngakoue.

Clowney is the only DE that I can think of that might be available that is perhaps better vs the run than the pass, but can pressure the QB.  Carolina could be open to trading him before the trade deadline since their season is going nowhere.

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2 minutes ago, jgb said:

JD pays Reddick. I mean, it's not really in suspense now. Pride is worthless. JD's job is on the line.

It is a lot to ask of a D to deliver without the 2 players projected as their top 2 DE's and D playmakers. If you listed the most important players on the D going into the season JJ and Reddick would be top 4 on anyone's list and they would be top 2 on most D's but the Jets happen to have Q and Sauce, both of whom are top 3 players at their position. 

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3 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said:

It is a lot to ask of a D to deliver without the 2 players projected as their top 2 DE's and D playmakers. If you listed the most important players on the D going into the season JJ and Reddick would be top 4 on anyone's list and they would be top 2 on most D's but the Jets happen to have Q and Sauce, both of whom are top 3 players at their position. 

I stick to my pre-season prediction this gets done for a 1 year extension with '24 and '25 guaranteed. Maybe funny money added after that, but that's irrelevant because 100% there will be a provision preventing Jets from tagging him.

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4 hours ago, JKlecko said:

I vote a big NO on giving Reddick anything.  Let the jerk play for the contract he signed. I'd rather trade for Jadaveon Clowney.  He could help against both the run and the pass.  He's playing "at home" now with the Panthers, but the Panthers may be amenable to trading him for a 5th or 4th round pick.  They need talent and to do a rebuild.

My second choice would be to sign Ngakoue.

I don't know if there's any team that's really interested in Reddick, but if so I'd ship him to them for a bag of footballs just to get rid of the POS.

I think this is harsh!  I'd be more than willing to give Reddick a raise middle finger.

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5 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

I can't recall the particular player but I am pretty sure that in the not so distant past the Jets signed a free agent linemen and then during the season when the team he came from decided it was a mistake, they traded with the Jets to get him back. Perhaps the Jets should pick up the phone and inquire about JFM?

Jacob Martin. Jets signed him as a FA from Texans then traded him at the deadline to Denver. 

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New York Jets

On March 17, 2022, the New York Jets signed Martin to a three-year $16.5 million deal.

Denver Broncos

On November 1, 2022, Martin was traded along with a 2024 fifth-round pick to the Denver Broncos for a 2024 fourth-round pick. He was placed on injured reserve on December 14. Martin was released by the Broncos on May 10, 2023.

Houston Texans (second stint)

On May 23, 2023, Martin signed with the Texans. He was released on August 29, 2023.

Indianapolis Colts

On August 31, 2023, Martin signed with the Indianapolis Colts.

Chicago Bears

On March 16, 2024, Martin signed a one-year contract with the Chicago Bears.[19] He was placed on injured reserve on August 27.

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13 hours ago, Jumbo and the Elliots said:

It’s not that easy. He and Rodger’s have a smooth chemistry going which to me almost looks like the Tommy Kramer-Ahmad Rashad combo of years ago, one of the top 3 qb/wr combo’s this league has ever seen!

It’s always nice to learn about new posters. For instance, today I learned that you’re pretty old! 

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