Rodgers hasnt played well narrative is silly

[bicketybam]

Just now, Green Ghost said:

You’re so bad at this it’s pitiful. 😂

I know know I got you when you start replying like a 8 yo kid.

 

[ChrebetOverKeyshawn]

An offense  who cannot run the ball for Jack is wasting the first two plays of every drive and immediately putting the entire operation behind the 8 ball. Lazard is dropping any ball that’s directly in his grasp. Receivers like Gipson are continuing their go routes up field when Rodgers is anticipating back shoulder. It’s a very complex mix of issues that’s deeper than “Aaron Rodgers sucks now”. It’s just a lazy analysis and quite frankly the cheap ammo people who hated him before the trade were craving for. He had his worst game of the season against Minnesota, there’s no denying that. Let’s see what happens with a shakeup in offensive philosophy, if they’re still stale by Week 9 I’ll concede.

[Green Ghost]

1 minute ago, ChrebetOverKeyshawn said:

An offense  who cannot run the ball for Jack is wasting the first two plays of every drive and immediately putting the entire operation behind the 8 ball. Lazard is dropping any ball that’s directly in his grasp. Receivers like Gipson are continuing their go routes up field when Rodgers is anticipating back shoulder. It’s a very complex mix of issues that’s deeper than “Aaron Rodgers sucks now”. It’s just a lazy analysis quite frankly the cheap ammo people who hated him before the trade were craving for. He had his worst game of the season against Minnesota, there’s no denying that. Let’s see what happens with a shakeup in offensive philosophy, if they’re still stale by Week 9 I’ll concede.

If they’re still stale by week 9, nobody will care whether you concede or not. 😂

[ChrebetOverKeyshawn]

1 minute ago, Green Ghost said:

If they’re still stale by week 9, nobody will care whether you concede or not. 😂

😂 thanks man 

[shevys]

2 hours ago, Biggs said:

One of the most accurate QB's in NFL history is currently ranked 26th in completion percentage.   

Doesn’t help when one of your top guys leads the league in drops. 

[GangGreened]

Aaron Rodgers has been mid at best. We’ll see if firing Saleh somehow galvanizes the offense, but there needs to be changes on that side of the ball.

[Darnold's Forehead]

4 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

I've seen enough of Rodgers to know what we have. He is teetering on still having it and starting to lose it. A middling Rodgers is by far the best QB we had since Fitzpatrick's aberration year. We don't need him to prime ARod. We need an adult game plan, better blocking schemes, and creative play calling. This defense can be dangerous defending a lead or tied up. 

We also need him not throwing it 96 times, getting sacked 8 times and only running for 74 yards combined the last 2 games.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

4 hours ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

He’s on pace for like 28 13 and 3,700 yards and that is playing against the top 5 best defenses in the NFL and one game in a rain storm. Mind you these are his first 5 games in over a year and half and the run game and OL have sucked.

These would be the worst or on par with the worst season in his career.

He is part of the reason the run game has sucked. He hasn't helped the o line much either. How is a 20 year vet getting hit by untouched blind side sacks without calling the free runner at the line or feeling the pressure.

[BreeceHallofFame]

Just now, Prodigal Syndicate said:

These would be the worst or on par with the worst season in his career.

He is part of the reason the run game has sucked. He hasn't helped the o line much either. How is a 20 year vet getting hit by untouched blind side sacks without calling the free runner at the line or feeling the pressure.

Again you are judging a 5 game sample size against the very best defenses, his first five games in a year and a half with a new team. And no, he isn’t the reason the run game sucks the run game was better last year with less talent same coaching and Zach Wilson 

[Dcat]

4 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said:

Hes playing like sh*t, he has to stop audible out of every play for a back shoulder throw.

Go rewatch, he misses wide open receivers at least 3 times a game.

^This.  He has been painful to watch.  Jets did not get what they paid for so far. Not even close.  OP has no clue what he is watching.

[Prodigal Syndicate]

Just now, BreeceHallofFame said:

Again you are judging a 5 game sample size against the very best defenses, his first five games in a year and a half with a new team. And no, he isn’t the reason the run game sucks the run game was better last year with less talent same coaching and Zach Wilson 

You think Rodgers is going to improve as the weather gets worse? 

And yes he is a reason. He is changing plays at the line and doing audibles into runs up the gut and the defenses are keyed onto it. 

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

7 hours ago, Darnold's Forehead said:

We also need him not throwing it 96 times, getting sacked 8 times and only running for 74 yards combined the last 2 games.

The OL still doesn't understand the blocking scheme. With the exception of Fashanu, this is a veteran group who still don't know which direction to block. Coaching has been horrendous.

[Bobby816]

8 hours ago, GangGreened said:

Aaron Rodgers has been mid at best. We’ll see if firing Saleh somehow galvanizes the offense, but there needs to be changes on that side of the ball.

Quite frankly he’s being paid mid. So that’s what we should expect.

[Dunnie]

One of the most accurate QB's in NFL history is currently ranked 26th in completion percentage.   

Look at the play throughout the O and tell me any QB could be better with that kind of trash. OL, WRa , RBs

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[LIJetsFan]

11 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

I've seen enough of Rodgers to know what we have. He is teetering on still having it and starting to lose it. A middling Rodgers is by far the best QB we had since Fitzpatrick's aberration year. We don't need him to prime ARod. We need an adult game plan, better blocking schemes, and creative play calling. This defense can be dangerous defending a lead or tied up. 

Nice post.  I'd add that IIRC AR8 has a hx of distain re: rookie WR's.  He is a great QB as long as his WR's get to the exact spot on the field that they are suppose to get to.  So far this season GW has been a case in point.

Between this, O penalites, and drops, I've been pulling my hair out.   Saleh had no answers so it's good that he's gone.  Next man up.....        

[Fantasy Island]

Rodgers doesn’t pass the eye test.  He gets every opportunity to have it his way and he sucks.  The OL was built by JD.  The coaches on O were hired by Saleh.

Saleh is gone, hallelujah.  Rodgers now has a couple weeks while we are still  in it to figure it out.  If not then Saleh’s staff will meet the same fate.

There is your accountability.

[Biggs]

2 hours ago, Dunnie said:

Look at the play throughout the O and tell me any QB could be better with that kind of trash. OL, WRa , RBs

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Yes he should be.  He’s done nothing to make the D defend territory beyond 10 yards of the LOS.

[UntouchableCrew]

He’s clearly rinsed.

Still better than than any QB we’ve head in quite some time but his insistence in running this offense with zero motion and little play action undermines everyone else. Defenses know what we’re doing and he’s not good enough to overcome that.

We’d be better off with Joe Flacco and Mike Fleur than Rodgers and Hackett.

[Biggs]

12 hours ago, bicketybam said:

 

He is comparing Rodgers' season vs. Zach's, not the team's performance which takes into account more than just the QB. Rodgers, as mediocre as he's been, has been a lot better than Wilson was in his first 5 games last year. I won't even bother comparing their statistics.

The bar has been moved from competent QB play to better than Zach Wilson.  He hasn’t even crossed the better than Zach threshold.  

Rodgers gets a lot of extra points for actually getting Saleh fired.  

[Dunnie]

47 minutes ago, Biggs said:

Yes he should be.  He’s done nothing to make the D defend territory beyond 10 yards of the LOS.

He is not being given enough time to throw it deeper on most plays.

[Dunnie]

12 minutes ago, Biggs said:

The bar has been moved from competent QB play to better than Zach Wilson.  He hasn’t even crossed the better than Zach threshold.  

Rodgers gets a lot of extra points for actually getting Saleh fired.  

Again ... its becoming clear that while Zach was terrible .. it was not all on him ... this coaching staff has been a complete failure on offense for years ... and that responsibility ultimately falls squarely at the feet of the head coach.  

[JiFtheOracle]

Rodgers has been proper sh*tty.  He's had 1 good game and sucked something awful otherwise.  They've had the ball in his hands, 2 games in a row and couldnt pull off the W.  This is what he was supposed to do for this team.  Let the D keep you in games while Rodgers goes and wins it when you need it and he's failed do it both times they've asked him.

By his measure, he's sucked.

 

[Biggs]

4 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

He is not being given enough time to throw it deeper on most plays.

Veteran QB’s actually make line calls and change plays at the LOS.  They go out of runs up the gut to take a deep shot early in games.  Most good vets make teams pay for blitzing.  He missed a wide open TD by 20’ against MN.  He’s not that interested or focused and now that he has the responsibility to run an O without the HC calling the plays and protection he can’t do it.

[Biggs]

5 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Again ... its becoming clear that while Zach was terrible .. it was not all on him ... this coaching staff has been a complete failure on offense for years ... and that responsibility ultimately falls squarely at the feet of the head coach.  

I don’t get it.  Rodgers 1 redeeming quality is he’s an A NFL QB.  There’s nothing else about him that’s even remotely likable.  Why apologize or try to rationalize the reality.  He’s had one good game and has stunk 2 consecutive weeks.  

[Dunnie]

3 minutes ago, Biggs said:

Veteran QB’s actually make line calls and change plays at the LOS.  They go out of runs up the gut to take a deep shot early in games.  Most good vets make teams pay for blitzing.  He missed a wide open TD by 20’ against MN.  He’s not that interested or focused and now that he has the responsibility to run an O without the HC calling the plays and protection he can’t do it.

You think it is possible perhaps the other players have not been coached up to run the correct routes or are still failing their timing ?

[Biggs]

1 minute ago, Dunnie said:

You think it is possible perhaps the other players have not been coached up to run the correct routes or are still failing their timing ?

It’s Rodgers O.  He’s running it.  Hackett never called plays for Rodgers.  He’s his buddy not an NFL OC.  Rodgers is responsible for the O.  

Zach wasn’t responsible for any of it.  He just sucked and you’re correct he didn’t get any help.  Rodgers came here to avoid any accountability and to run it his way.

Rodgers has not been accurate with the ball when he has time.  He’s jittery in the pocket.  He doesn’t climb the pocket or hold on to the ball.  He’s checked out.

[Trotter]

3 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

The OL still doesn't understand the blocking scheme. With the exception of Fashanu, this is a veteran group who still don't know which direction to block. Coaching has been horrendous.

Thank you

If the agenda is to blame Rodgers because you were against trading for him, don't like him personally or for his opinions that's fine, but to say it is all on him and now Saleh is a scapegoat because Rodgers wanted him fired is simply ridiculous.

I would have to think the majority on this board and to a lesser degree the knuckleheads in the media have watched football for a long time.

Watching this team play, unprepared, same mistake after same mistake, lack of adjustments etc. is coaching plain and simple.

Rodgers has been less than good over the 5 games but he is not dropping ball after ball, false starts, missed assignments and flat out missed blocks.

Last I checked he is not opening the holes for Breece.

Whatever happens the rest of the way who knows but the move yesterday is simply overdue and hopefully a step in the right direction. 

[BreeceHallofFame]

44 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

He’s clearly rinsed.

Still better than than any QB we’ve head in quite some time but his insistence in running this offense with zero motion and little play action undermines everyone else. Defenses know what we’re doing and he’s not good enough to overcome that.

We’d be better off with Joe Flacco and Mike Fleur than Rodgers and Hackett.

We ran tons of play action last week which lost is the game actually as it led to two key sacks on second and short

This obsession with motion is hilarious. Motion is not the only way to run an offense. How are the dolphins doing? 

the team can’t block, catch, run the right routes or through the right holes. That is the issue with the offense 

[The Crusher]

14 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

Not sure what you actually wrote here, but if it’s the revisionist history I think it is?

Terrible take on your part. Rodgers (and the Jets team) has been terrible except for one game against a decimated NE team.

Defense been the defense Aaron and offense been..

[FidelioJet]

4 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

Quite frankly he’s being paid mid. So that’s what we should expect.

Should we expect mid from Pat Mahomes?

[The Crusher]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

Should we expect mid from Pat Mahomes?

No but likely 2nd place behind The Jaylen coming soon! 

[Jets723]

My biggest issue is that Rodgers has too much loyalty to Hackett who not only stinks but is literally hurting him

[Dunnie]

58 minutes ago, Biggs said:

It’s Rodgers O.  He’s running it.  Hackett never called plays for Rodgers.  He’s his buddy not an NFL OC.  Rodgers is responsible for the O.  

Zach wasn’t responsible for any of it.  He just sucked and you’re correct he didn’t get any help.  Rodgers came here to avoid any accountability and to run it his way.

Rodgers has not been accurate with the ball when he has time.  He’s jittery in the pocket.  He doesn’t climb the pocket or hold on to the ball.  He’s checked out.

Rodgers can call any play in the book .. if the receivers don't know where to be when, or the play has no time to develop ... its a moot point.

Edited 1 hour ago by Dunnie

[GangGreened]

4 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

Quite frankly he’s being paid mid. So that’s what we should expect.

I mean, it’s what a lot of fans based in reality expected. It’s clearly not what the Jets expected.

[Biggs]

1 minute ago, Dunnie said:

Rodgers can call any play in the book .. if the receivers don't know where to be when, or the play has no time to develop ... its a moot point.

So no accountability for Rodgers.