Barry McCockinner Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Quote Through six games, the Jets are 2-4, but they have a +5 point differential. The disparity between their 2-4 record and +5 point differential can be largely blamed on their poor kicking; they’ve made just 67% of their field goal attempts (4 misses total). The Titans had a very similar start. They were 2-4, but had a +6 point differential over that span. If it weren’t for their 44% field goal percentage (5 misses total), they probably would have had a better record to match their positive point differential. It is very rare to see a team start its season in this specific fashion. Over the past 15 seasons, the 2024 Jets and 2019 Titans are the only two teams to start 2-4 with a positive point differential and a sub-70% field goal percentage. Interesting stat here from Jets-xfactor. https://jetsxfactor.com/2024/10/18/ny-jets-2-4-turnaround-mimic/ Seems to indicate a change at PK would make sense but we're going to ride it out I guess. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: Interesting stat here from Jets-xfactor. https://jetsxfactor.com/2024/10/18/ny-jets-2-4-turnaround-mimic/ Seems to indicate a change at PK would make sense but we're going to ride it out I guess. If the Kicker misses another game changing kick they need to replace him. He is currently a liability for close games which many are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted 3 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 3 hours ago Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Theodore Posted 3 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. Now we are just a kicker away 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted 3 hours ago Author Popular Post Share Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. We had a guy who was a good kicker who has been playing like a bad kicker and have lost 2 games in large part due to missed kicks. Is it unreasonable to look at the kicker given the context? The thought process on here is wild sometimes. We have a kicker problem. We didn't last year. It doesn't mean it's the only problem, btw. This is another weird common theme on here. You can't discuss a problem or a potential improvement without some smooth brain pointing out it's not going to fix everything. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. This seems nonsensical. We fired the HC/demoted the OC 1 game ago and the new WR has yet to play a snap. Meanwhile, people are the blaming the kicker for the 2-4 record because he missed a potential game-winning kick as well as another 2 chip shots that probably cost us a second game. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. i'll tell you who it is it's that damned sasquatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. Have you watched the games? They’ve lost 2 games because the kicker is shot Every good playoff team has a reliable kicker. The Jets do not Bobby Boy with another BOTCH JOB rolling with Greg the Peg over Seibert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted 2 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 2 hours ago 25 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said: If the Kicker misses another game changing kick they need to replace him. He is currently a liability for close games which many are. He probably should have already been replaced he missed in the preseason, he missed a kick in the NE game, he missed the game-winning kick against Denver, and he missed two chip shots against the Bills that killed our chances in that game. Already too many misses. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago No you are what your record says you are all other analysis is a waste of time. Context is for losers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: We had a guy who was a good kicker who has been playing like a bad kicker and have lost 2 games in large part due to missed kicks. Is it unreasonable to look at the kicker given the context? The thought process on here is wild sometimes. We have a kicker problem. We didn't last year. It doesn't mean it's the only problem, btw. This is another weird common theme on here. You can't discuss a problem or a potential improvement without some smooth brain pointing out it's not going to fix everything. 7 minutes ago, Plen T said: Have you watched the games? They’ve lost 2 games because the kicker is shot Every good playoff team has a reliable kicker. The Jets do not Bobby Boy with another BOTCH JOB rolling with Greg the Peg over Seibert Kickers are only the leading scorers for every team in every season. No big deal!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: No you are what your record says you are all other analysis is a waste of time. Context is for losers. Pointing out a statistical anomaly is not saying they aren't actually 2-4. It's just pointing out that 1) this rarely happens and that 2) statistical anomalies tend to revert to the mean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 33 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. Let’s be honest We are just an Owner way. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 35 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. It’s the GDGM who brought us this mess. He should have been replaced after the 2023 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Pointing out a statistical anomaly is not saying they aren't actually 2-4. It's just pointing out that 1) this rarely happens and that 2) statistical anomalies tend to revert to the mean. You're giving him too much credit, Barry. He was trying to be sarcastic. He's probably one of those guys that was squinting REALLY, REAALLY hard at Zach Wilson highlights and trying to convince others that he was actually a very good QB. "Context is for losers" said it all... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 36 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. Fact: the kicker did kill us on two of the games. You are right. It is indeed time to heave a large chunk of blame directly at Greg's leg, which seems to have been infected by the polio virus. Not saying he is the "only" blame whatsoever, which is how the typical reader in the forum will misinterpret, but his defective leg gets plenty of well deserved balme. 4-2 <-----> 2-4. Greg. Laid an Egg. Stay on the team? Not even if he begs. And sure, there is plenty of other blame to toss around as well. But this kicker is atrocious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimer Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 43 minutes ago, slimjasi said: He probably should have already been replaced he missed in the preseason, he missed a kick in the NE game, he missed the game-winning kick against Denver, and he missed two chip shots against the Bills that killed our chances in that game. Already too many misses. Let’s not forget that he essentially missed an extra point that was miraculously called good. He’s totally shot and everyone could see it during the preseason except the coaching staff. Amazing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker89 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Please ... for the love of **** please get a W this weekend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green&white Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Know what else helps? Scoring touchdowns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, dbatesman said: Remember when we were Just A Quarterback Away? Since then we’ve fired the head coach, stripped the OC of playcalling duties, and acquired a new WR1, so naturally now it’s time to blame the kicker. You're saying he hasn't been a problem? Awesome take. Sterling 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: Pointing out a statistical anomaly is not saying they aren't actually 2-4. It's just pointing out that 1) this rarely happens and that 2) statistical anomalies tend to revert to the mean. I remember pointing out that the 2013 Jets that went 8-8 were outscored by 97 points (6th worst in the league), which would be more in line with a 4-win team. I also remember getting screamed at for having the audacity to suggest the 2014 team, with very few changes that offseason, were set for a disastrous campaign. Result: 4-12, Rex Ryan fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Jetsfan80 said: I remember pointing out that the 2013 Jets that went 8-8 were outscored by 97 points (6th worst in the league). I also remember getting screamed at for having the audacity to suggest the 2014 team, with very few changes that offseason, were set for a disastrous campaign. Result: 4-12, Rex Ryan fired. Yay Kenny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, green&white said: Know what else helps? Scoring touchdowns. Yes, scoring more TD's helps win football games. Thank you for the insight. Since you obviously missed the point, I'll paste it below for you. Over the past 15 seasons, the 2024 Jets and 2019 Titans are the only two teams to start 2-4 with a positive point differential and a sub-70% field goal percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, UnknownJetFan said: If the Kicker misses another game changing kick they need to replace him. He is currently a liability for close games which many are. It was always a bit strange to me that virtually no punters in the league also double as an emergency place kicker. That way, if your starter is clearly struggling, you at least have the in-game option of "going to the bench" to try and get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: He probably should have already been replaced he missed in the preseason, he missed a kick in the NE game, he missed the game-winning kick against Denver, and he missed two chip shots against the Bills that killed our chances in that game. Already too many misses. he hasn't made a FG past 40 yards this year. another Jet who got paid and got fat and lazy when the check cleared 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago What's going to be really great is when you zhlobs let yourselves get talked into trying this experiment for a 3rd year because...hey, he AT LEAST deserves a full year with Adams and a REAL kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: This seems nonsensical. We fired the HC/demoted the OC 1 game ago and the new WR has yet to play a snap. Meanwhile, people are the blaming the kicker for the 2-4 record because he missed a potential game-winning kick as well as another 2 chip shots that probably cost us a second game. The kicker did cost two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: What's going to be really great is when you zhlobs let yourselves get talked into trying this experiment for a 3rd year because...hey, he AT LEAST deserves a full year with Adams and a REAL kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Here's an oldie but goodie that probably comes back as a result of all of this as well: Jets take a kicker within the first 4 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted 57 minutes ago Share Posted 57 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: We had a guy who was a good kicker who has been playing like a bad kicker and have lost 2 games in large part due to missed kicks. Is it unreasonable to look at the kicker given the context? The thought process on here is wild sometimes. We have a kicker problem. We didn't last year. It doesn't mean it's the only problem, btw. This is another weird common theme on here. You can't discuss a problem or a potential improvement without some smooth brain pointing out it's not going to fix everything. Yep. A kicker problem and a holding onto passes problem (team has 14 drops in 6 games, including 3rd down drive-killers that would be firsts, and the would-be winning/go-ahead TD against Buffalo) and a LT/RT blocking problem That's three problems. Plus with the handicap of having CJ Mosley on the roster that makes four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted 49 minutes ago Share Posted 49 minutes ago Yeah but our kicker has a cool nickname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxta_p Posted 45 minutes ago Share Posted 45 minutes ago Kickers are interesting fellows. Once they are labeled as "not clutch", it tends to snowball and eat away at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxta_p Posted 43 minutes ago Share Posted 43 minutes ago I fear his confidence is eroded and he wont recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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