ECURB Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Will he be here next year? Mangini could have cut him and drafted a FB last year or picked done up but he must have seen something in him... He started 5 games this year and played in 13 games with a grand total of 11 rushing yards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 He will probably get cut. However, somehow I have a hard time thinking you really want into get into a hardcore BJ Askew discussion, and that this topic is merely a throwaway you posted to make it look like you post about things other than Chad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 He will probably get cut. However, somehow I have a hard time thinking you really want into get into a hardcore BJ Askew discussion, and that this topic is merely a throwaway you posted to make it look like you post about things other than Chad. No actually Im really curious about it, becuase its crucial to our run game. Obviously he did something to make Mangini keep him around, but he is too slow to be a RB and not big enough to be a FB... what is he? I like him but it seems like we will almost have to improve the FB position to help our run game... unless of course we get LT... which isnt happening.. sooo what do we do about Askew? Does he have trade value? 7th rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Fullbacks don't have trade value. Especially not this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 Fullbacks don't have trade value. Especially not this one. True, so whats his salary like? He knows the system so there is a good chance he will be around, or will Hodgins take his roster spot, I hear he was better when healthy and he stayed healthy this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 He sucks, plain and simple. He wasn't even a fullback in college. He doesn't have the speed to be a halfback, nor the blocking technique or ability for a fullback. He shouldn't have been drafted in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 He won the Green Bay game all by himself. Walking on the field during pre-game with no shirt on...that was gold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 After watching the texans game in full and in detail,one of the main reasons we only got 27 yards rushing was that Hodgins was atrocious at full back,I don't think he successfully blocked anyone all game. On the flip side,one of the biggest reasons we had success against the pack in the first half was that BJ askew successfully blocked a defender on almost every run play.I've yet to watch the second half of the game but his play in that half means I'm going to keep an eye on him for the second half and all the ther games I've still to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangenious420 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 He won the Green Bay game all by himself. Walking on the field during pre-game with no shirt on...that was gold! That was priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 After watching the texans game in full and in detail,one of the main reasons we only got 27 yards rushing was that Hodgins was atrocious at full back,I don't think he successfully blocked anyone all game. On the flip side,one of the biggest reasons we had success against the pack in the first half was that BJ askew successfully blocked a defender on almost every run play.I've yet to watch the second half of the game but his play in that half means I'm going to keep an eye on him for the second half and all the ther games I've still to watch. Interesting... I never watch where the FB is blocking too closely... thats why I wasnt sure... and it seemed Mangini was giving Hodgins a shot at it but Always went back to Askew... Is it simply that he could not find a good enough upgrade or does he actually like BJ and think he can get the job done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Bring on Brian Leonard from Rutgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 Bring on Brian Leonard from Rutgers I have heard him mentioned a few times... He is the same size as askew but looking at his #'s, all except his senoir year he looked like a playmaker too, he had over 1000 all purpose yards his 1st 3 years.... Ill jump on that bandwagon as long as he can block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Bring on Brian Leonard from Rutgers tell us about him faba-a lot of us don't watch college ball-we learn about these guys at this time of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I have heard him mentioned a few times... He is the same size as askew but looking at his #'s, all except his senoir year he looked like a playmaker too, he had over 1000 all purpose yards his 1st 3 years.... Ill jump on that bandwagon as long as he can block. Who do you think blocked this year for Ray Rice- I rest my case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 Who do you think blocked this year for Ray Rice- I rest my case What were the teams they played like though? Did he have an easy job or was he going against big physical defenses? I dont watch college ball at all but looking at this Kids #'s if he can block and has some speed/strength... wow would he be an upgrade of Askew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Askew was a wasted pick. Just another Terry Bradway mistake. that man could **** up a Super bowl team with no salary cap and unlimited resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_monkey Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I've said it before, and I'll repeat it here... a good lead blocking FB would do wonders for our running game. And if he can help to protect the QB, it's even better. But nobody in the NFL cares about FB's right now. They're out of fashion for some reason. So we won't draft, or trade for one. At best they'll pick up a cheap FA and hope that will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Bring on Brian Leonard from Rutgers He will probably require a second round pick. I am not in favor of burning a draft pick that high on a fullback. That's almost as bad as taking a kicker/punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 He won the Green Bay game all by himself. Walking on the field during pre-game with no shirt on...that was SEXXXI! Wow Maxxx, just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Hopefully BJ will be back next season as he can be a RB or a FB but with his injury problems late in the season and the bringing in of James Hodgins more and more each week it seems to me that he will probably be gone by Training Camp, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Not to mention that bonehead idea at the end of the first half where he actually thought he could score instead of running out of bounds. That probably didn't help his chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Askew was brought in to be a protege and contemporary of a Richie Anederson type FB for the Hackett offense. ie-A FB whose primary value to the team is one that can come out of the backfield and catch a pass. The same mold of a Jerald Sowell. The Jets got stereotyped into these types of FB's based upon the way Hackett would run the offense. They fell in love with that template. I am not sure that is what Schott/Mangini see as being a FB's primary responsibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Askew was brought in to be a protege and contemporary of a Richie Anederson type FB for the Hackett offense. ie-A FB whose primary value to the team is one that can come out of the backfield and catch a pass. The same mold of a Jerald Sowell. The Jets got stereotyped into these types of FB's based upon the way Hackett would run the offense. They fell in love with that template. I am not sure that is what Schott/Mangini see as being a FB's primary responsibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 What were the teams they played like though? Did he have an easy job or was he going against big physical defenses? I dont watch college ball at all but looking at this Kids #'s if he can block and has some speed/strength... wow would he be an upgrade of Askew I heard the reason why BJ's here is because he is helping Chad with painting his $65 million dollar mansion in the Hamptons..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 We'd be better off signing Mughelli from Baltimore. Hes a way , way, way , better fullback then B.J askew. I think askew is as good as gone, sorry. Come to think of it, wtf why did we draft this guy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Come to think of it, wtf why did we draft this guy ? To block for Curtis Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 To block for Curtis Martin? Good point... he did happen to help Curtis on his way to a rushing title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Good point... he did happen to help Curtis on his way to a rushing title... I believe that was more Jerald Sowell, and blocking was not Sowell's forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Good point... he did happen to help Curtis on his way to a rushing title... I'm not sure how much he helped him that season, but I think that's why they drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBeans Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Let me all Askew all a question..... <How'dya like that, heelz!> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 To block for Curtis Martin? Right... Then why keep gerald sowell ? And no askew had nothing to do with curtis martin getting the rushing title, That was sowell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Sowell was already in the league six years when they drafted Askew. They must have believed that BJ would succeed him as the blocking back. (Sowell is now gone- with Tampa?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Askew blows. #1 priority of a FB is blocking, and (though he has improved) he's still lousy at it. Absent that attribute, any others he has don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Askew blows. #1 priority of a FB is blocking, and (though he has improved) he's still lousy at it. Absent that attribute, any others he has don't matter. SE-You have to remember the offensive philosophy that Askew was brought in for-It was one where the full back had major responsibilities in the passing game- Remember the # of catches by Anderson and Sowell? When Askew was drafted, I believe both Anderson and Askew were FA's, and teh Jets did not know what was happening with both. Askew was a knee jerk draft pick to safe guard themselves and have a continuim in their scheme. That does not make him right for todays offense, just an explanation to how he got here and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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