Smizzy Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Jets | Team content with Robertson at tackle Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:09:39 -0700 Rich Cimini, reporting for the Sporting News, reports the New York Jets appear to be happy with DL Dewayne Robertson at nose tackle. He is slightly undersized for the position, but he showed good improvement late last season, adapting to the two-gap system. The Jets haven't shown any interest in free-agent tackles, so they're apparently willing to live with Robertson. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 He did get better, but hes not a true NT. Why be content with satisfactory when we could easily draft someone that could excell at that position and would also cost a lot less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 He did get better, but hes not a true NT. Why be content with satisfactory when we could easily draft someone that could excell at that position and would also cost a lot less? I don't believe the word easily should be used here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Not wise, IMO. He did improve late in the season, but it's pretty foolish to put all their eggs into one basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Apparently there was also a rumor on Sirius radio that the Jets could potentially trade D-Rob and a 3rd rounder to the Lions for Shaun Rogers. I'd be all over that, even though there are some questions about Rogers when it comes to work ethic. This trade seems highly unlikely though, I was just throwing it out there. I don't have a problem with them sticking with Robertson another year to see what he's got at NT, but I think it'd be in their best interest to try and draft someone later in the draft to provide depth and insurance. At the very least he could spell D-Rob. I'd like them to look at getting a guy like Paul Soliai in the 4th, if he lasted that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Quote: Jets | Team content with Robertson at tackle Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:09:39 -0700 Rich Cimini, reporting for the Sporting News, reports the New York Jets appear to be happy with DL Dewayne Robertson at nose tackle. He is slightly undersized for the position, but he showed good improvement late last season, adapting to the two-gap system. The Jets haven't shown any interest in free-agent tackles, so they're apparently willing to live with Robertson.Thoughts? Hmmm....Thoughts? Yeah there isnt any news coming out of the NYJ organization right now, so just like many of us are reaching for posts Cimini is reaching for tidbits as well. The Sporting News must have told him to come up with something if he wanted his check this week so he decided that "the Jets haven't shown any interest in free-agent tackles, so they're apparently willing to live with Robertson." Funny I thought that there was still a draft and future cuts that could address that position if they decided to. In other news, while trying to dig up his tidbits Cimini stopped by JetNation read Madmike1's post on Adalius Thomas and decided to agree with him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Hmmm....Thoughts? Yeah there isnt any news coming out of the NYJ organization right now, so just like many of us are reaching for posts Cimini is reaching for tidbits as well. The Sporting News must have told him to come up with something if he wanted his check this week so he decided that "the Jets haven't shown any interest in free-agent tackles, so they're apparently willing to live with Robertson." Funny I thought that there was still a draft and future cuts that could address that position if they decided to. In other news, while trying to dig up his tidbits Cimini stopped by JetNation read Madmike1's post on Adalius Thomas and decided to agree with him..... :love0030: I bow to this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Apparently there was also a rumor on Sirius radio that the Jets could potentially trade D-Rob and a 3rd rounder to the Lions for Shaun Rogers. I'd be all over that, even though there are some questions about Rogers when it comes to work ethic. This trade seems highly unlikely though, I was just throwing it out there. I don't have a problem with them sticking with Robertson another year to see what he's got at NT, but I think it'd be in their best interest to try and draft someone later in the draft to provide depth and insurance. At the very least he could spell D-Rob. I'd like them to look at getting a guy like Paul Soliai in the 4th, if he lasted that long. I can see the Jets D playing a 4-3 at various times in which case having DRob around would be a good thing. I agree that it wouldn't be a bad idea to pick up Soliai in the 4th although he might very well be gone in the 3rd. I that senerio Jeremy Clark (Alabama) or Nebraska's Ola Dagunduro might be available in the last few rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 He did get better, but hes not a true NT. Why be content with satisfactory when we could easily draft someone that could excell at that position and would also cost a lot less? He is the same size as Wilfat up in NE pretty much... is he a true NT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 He is the same size as Wilfat up in NE pretty much... is he a true NT? Interesting. I know when I watch Wilfolk play he just seems to "play" bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Vince Wilfork - 6'2" - 325lbs Drob - 6'1" - 317lbs Drob is shorter, which is better, and if he can put on a little muscle he will be all set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Vince Wilfork - 6'2" - 325lbs Drob - 6'1" - 317lbs Drob is shorter, which is better, and if he can put on a little muscle he will be all set. There in no way on god's green earth Wilfat weighs 325 pds...375 is more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 There in no way on god's green earth Wilfat weighs 325 pds...375 is more like it. Sorry the highest I saw him listed anywhere was 330... and I think that was in college... I could be wrong but Im just going by the facts here Smizzy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Sorry the highest I saw him listed anywhere was 330... and I think that was in college... I could be wrong but Im just going by the facts here Smizzy... No fact there. Im sure BB has him listed how he wants him listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 No fact there. Im sure BB has him listed how he wants him listed. Maybe Drob is really 380... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Maybe Drob is really 380... If Drob is 380...Wilfat is 450 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 If Vince Wilfork is 325, then Smizzy is 250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 If Vince Wilfork is 325, then Smizzy is 250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 He played well, for the most part, down the stretch last season. Why not give him this season to see if after a year under his belt he can be a really good NT consistently? It's worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I think D-Rob is a pretty good nose tackle with upside. He plays smaller than he is because he relies more on quickness then brute force to get around blockers. Woolfork plays big because he is big and because he plows through the line to tackle the runner, disrupt the runner's path or just break the will of the offensive lineman. I like D-Rob and hope they give him time to establish himself in Mangini's system. He will not be easily replaced. Its a tough spot to fill. Willfork, for all his skill and power, plays between two excellent DEs, Warren and Seymour. I think D-Rob's improvement at the end of last season earned him the benefit of the doubt. Lets see how he does with another year under his belt (learning the system and building his body under Mangini's regime) with some better players around him. I may be crazy, and in the minority here, but I think D-Rob has a better chance to succeed long term as a Jet in this system than does Vilma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 There in no way on god's green earth Wilfat weighs 325 pds...375 is more like it. Smizzy's right the dude can't even fit into a jersey without his gut hanging out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Thoughts? Horrible move. Robertson was run over when it counted most and even in the NE game. He is way too small and by far, not strong enough. I would sincerely hate having him back at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Did anyone bother to think that we didn't go after any FA NT's better than DRob because there aren't any? What FA would you have like to see suit up instead? Name one who was available between March 2nd and today. And regarding DRob vs Wilfat: There is no way that 8 lbs separates these two. To compound it, Wilfat is a little taller. DRob is likely around 310. 317 was his weight when he was drafted. No friggin' way he carried the same baby fat around after Mangini's camp that he did before. Wilfat is not listed at his current actual weight. Anyone can see this. He's probably around 350, which is enormous for a guy 6'2. Hey, for YEARS Ted Washington was listed at 325 also. Was that his real weight? Of course not. Only recently did he start to get listed at the slightly more accurate 370-375. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 If the Jets had decent DE's then Robertson would be fine but they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Interesting. I know when I watch Wilfolk play he just seems to "play" bigger. That's because he hasn't weighed 325 since his freshman year at Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 If the Jets had decent DE's then Robertson would be fine but they don't. It must have sucked for him to play with Ellis and Abe ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 And regarding DRob vs Wilfat: There is no way that 8 lbs separates these two. To compound it, Wilfat is a little taller. DRob is likely around 310. 317 was his weight when he was drafted. No friggin' way he carried the same baby fat around after Mangini's camp that he did before. Wilfat is not listed at his current actual weight. Anyone can see this. He's probably around 350, which is enormous for a guy 6'2. Hey, for YEARS Ted Washington was listed at 325 also. Was that his real weight? Of course not. Only recently did he start to get listed at the slightly more accurate 370-375. DRob had 8% body fat when he was drafted. As for Wilfork, he's a good run stuffer but gets injured on occasion and has the benefit of playing next to Seymour and Warren. Production wise Drob is just as good if not better, and he plays in more games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 DRob had 8% body fat when he was drafted. As for Wilfork, he's a good run stuffer but gets injured on occasion and has the benefit of playing next to Seymour and Warren. Production wise Drob is just as good if not better, and he plays in more games. He missed three games with an injury last season and that was the first time in his career. If both players had came out the same year they would have played the exact same amount of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 He missed three games with an injury last season and that was the first time in his career. If both players had came out the same year they would have played the exact same amount of games. that's fine but my greater point is if the Patriots DL was Drob, warren and Seymour no one would be complaining about Drob in Patsie land. These players are at worst equals, and I'd still rather have Drob because he can rush the passer on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 It must have sucked for him to play with Ellis and Abe ... Abe did play really well for the Jets in 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemens&theJets Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 i have had faith in D-Rob ever since we drafted him and he is starting to come around. like i said the jets dont need a NT. D-Rob will get 65% of the plays and Pouha will get 35% we didnt draft pouha in the 3rd round for him to sit on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Abe did play really well for the Jets in 2006. Well, they were team mates from 2003-2005...I guess D-Rob was a monster for those 3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 He is the same size as Wilfat up in NE pretty much... is he a true NT? Please do me a favor and stop telling everyone Drob is the same size as Wilfork. Wilfork weights a good 350. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 i have had faith in D-Rob ever since we drafted him and he is starting to come around. like i said the jets dont need a NT. D-Rob will get 65% of the plays and Pouha will get 35% we didnt draft pouha in the 3rd round for him to sit on the bench. Our defense is seriously f*cked if Pouha is playing more than a 3rd of the downs as our NT. Pouha stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravejamriot Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Our defense is seriously f*cked if Pouha is playing more than a 3rd of the downs as our NT. Pouha stinks. He was hurt in training camp last year. How can you judge him and say he sucks without any real NFL sample to go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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